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Steve&Debby
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Mama Espanosas
Well we went to Mamas on January 10th on our way home from a great trip all the to Cabo then around the horn on our way home. Went in and sat
down,maybe three other people besides Diver in the restraunt. My mouth was watering for Mamas famous lobster.So when the waitress came over I said I
will have the Grande Langosta. The waitress said she would have to check with the kitchen.She came back and said NO Langosta .I could not believe what I was hearing,Mama Espanosas with no Langosta.Thats like
McDonalds without a Big Mac ,Burger King without a Whopper,Taco Bell without a Taco.Well after I calmed down I thought well no Langosta so my wife
ordered chili rellanos and I ordered shrimp tacos.
Our order arrived ,we both got shrimp tacos.My wife deceided that the tacos were ok, and did not say any thing,until we took a bite. these were the
worst shrimp tacos we had ever had . The shrimp were very fishy tasteing and not fresh, but the little scoop of rice was good.The restaraunt was very
clean,but the food sucked.Also the price was rediculous,Two orders of shrimp taco,two beers and a margarita for 38 American Dollars .
Next year we will defanatley skip Mamas and pick another spot to stop and eat. Any recomendations for good Langosta?
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Bajahowodd
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Happens way too often. I kinda think that nomads are living in a world of nostalgia. Especially since everyone stays at Antonios making it easy to
just walk next door. There are other better places to eat in town.
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Steve & Debby
That sucks. Shrimp are highly perishable> Sounds like they weren't fresh.
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David K
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We have posted here so many times... other places for dinner than ESPINOZA'S.
Lobster at Ed's "Baja's Best Restaurant" and ask Ed to fix them 'his way'! Far end of town, across from the new Turista Motel.
The price of lobster has gone way up Ed told us, so be warned.
Photos of Ed's inside and out (remodeled restaurant) in my trip report Baja 1-09 Part 7.... in the Nomad Baja Trip Reports forum.
Next in line for dinner would be Primo's "Bocana Beach Restaurant" in front of the Sinahi Motel.
Third would be Hugo's "Tacos Mision" (no lobster), but great burritos and stuffed potatoes.
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Lauriboats
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We had the same type of experience and have not been back to Mama Espinozas.
What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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We were "underwhelmed" at Mamas on two different occassions a couple of years ago. Caballos locos couldn't drag us back to what has to be our WORST
dining experience ever anywhere in Baja.
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Russ
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What a shame that some one in Mama's family can't get it right! It should be an historic landmark and probably is to some extent. Some are getting
good food and service there according to past posts. But I'm not taking the chance of being ripped off or worse until I hear there is a new
management.
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David K
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There are really MANY other places to eat in El Rosario... just none with this much publicity over the years.
We had good lobster in 2004 there, good breakfasts each time (perhaps a good thing being next door to Baja Cactus?)... Seems dinner and slow service
is the weak areas for Mama.
I hope David (ELINESTI8) relays some of this so they do improve... With a major change, I am sure we would give them another chance... as it is said,
it is a Baja landmark, afterall! Roli (Mama's daughter) has been running the place for many years... She is very nice and I am sure would want to
improve if so many negative comments were known to her.
Afterall, Baja race posters, stickers and ammonites can only draw clients for so long before bad food and service keeps them away!
Roli (on the right) with Antonio (BajaCactus) and Lorenia, in 2005:
http://vivabaja.com/505/mailedD40.jpg
[Edited on 1-18-2009 by David K]
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DianaT
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It really is a shame about Mama's --- after our last try, we sure won't go back--unless we hear major changes have happened.
Since Baja Bed and Breakfast has remodeled, we may give it one more chance. We finally had given up on them----last breakfast we had there was so,
so, and there were lots of other problems covered before. Some may have been fixed with the remodel. And maybe they have quit smoking while
customers are eating. While they cut their Starbucks coffee with other coffee, it is still better than most.
Not for lobster, but we like Tacos Mission, but then again, another person had a very bad experience there.
Diane
[Edited on 1-18-2009 by jdtrotter]
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Those stuffed potatoes at Tacos Mision are FANTASTIC, even better than lobster! Last time we drove through El Rosario, they were closed (too early in
the day). Next time we are planning the trip just right for those potatoes.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
Those stuffed potatoes at Tacos Mision are FANTASTIC, even better than lobster! Last time we drove through El Rosario, they were closed (too early in
the day). Next time we are planning the trip just right for those potatoes. |
 They are incredible---just bring some extra lipitor. 
It was your report about those stuffed potatoes that convinced us to try them----
[Edited on 1-18-2009 by jdtrotter]
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Next in line for dinner would be Primo's "Bocana Beach Restaurant" in front of the Sinahi Motel.
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I totally agree about this place... great menu and wonderful food!
We also had a great lunch at the little white and red school bus taco place just around the bend. Shrimp tacos to die for!
Bob H
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The lobster and hospitality used to be primo "back in the day"
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Bajahowodd
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I do think it's a case of resting on their laurels for Mama's. They have history, a prime location and a hotel nearby (Baja Cactus) that seems to fill
up nightly. i know, for myself, when coming North, Mama's is convenient. Don't feel like having drive to dinner after settling in. Have had good food
at Bocana Beach, only peeked into Ed's, pre-remodel. Just don't feel like walking that distance in the dark on what is an uneven, often muddy
shoulder. Bet that helps Mama's business.
Am surprised that Steve& ebby said the place was empty. I know tourism is down,
but I cannot recall seeing Mama's empty at dinner time.
Anyway, Zagat doesn't give any stars to any restaurant in El Rosario!
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No restaurant in Baja California is immune from being lambasted for their food preparation or their prices. Mama Espinoza’s Restaurant is no
exception.
 That said Mama's is still a great place to eat. I eat there every day while on my two week vacation to visit with Mama except
when I am at Rancho El Metate. I also stay at Mama Espinoza’s motel called La Cabanas.
 It is clean and a secure place to sleep. The only thing is you must heat your room with a small wood burning stove.
 When I go down in March 2009 I will let Rolli know of the complaints I saw here. All I can say is if you don’t like to eat there
for whatever reason go someplace else to eat. It’s pretty simple.
[Edited on 1-18-2009 by ELINVESTI8]
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Bajahowodd
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I think you have it wrong, David. Mama's is a landmark restaurant. For decades, people enjoyed eating there. It is also in a convenient location. What
I see from the various posts here, is a sense of slippage in the attention to detail. Telling people to eat somewhere else won't help the business.
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Wasn't there something posted a while ago that mentioned the possibility of Antonio opening a restaurant at/near his hotel?
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Bajahowodd I live and eat at Mama's when I go visit. I lived there 42 years ago when it was a hole in the wall. I have complete access to the kitchen,
their refrigerators and freezers. I see all the food before they prepare it. I see them clean the stove. I see them cook the food. I see them store
the food in its proper place when not in use. I have total access to everything. I have never seen them prepare perished food. I know for a fact that
Rolli has given days off without pay to some of her employees for not properly storing food. And yes if people feel it is not the place they want to
patronize they should go to those other places David K speaks about. More people love it there than hate it. As I said before I will let Rolli know
what has been written here.
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BajaGringo
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I don't know if I am just lucky or when they see me they decide to cook some "good" food but I have been eating there several times a month for a
couple of months now and haven't had a bad meal yet.
I guess I just must have good karma...
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Bajahowodd
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Paulina- Antonio's restaurant is either on hold because of the decline in tourism, or because he doesn't want bad feelings Rolli and himself. Take
your pick.
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