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EnseNADAslim
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The end of Punta Brava
How many know where Punto Brava sits? I didn't know where it was, however we kayak around it all the time. Punta Brava is the coast line that goes
around the radio tower mountain that sits out by La Bufadora. For many years we have enjoyed the fact that the foot print of man just did not exists
out in this area, well that is except for the occasional fisherman and his kids. Lately though we have noticed activity out there and even the
construction of a boat ramp, and today we noticed seating areas, a nice little bride, and a white canopy sitting by itself. It was odd to see it all
there in a place that was always beautifully untouched.
As we walked around we ran into a guard and he said that we were not supposed to be walking around because this was the private property
of,,,,,,,,Tiger Woods. He told us how this will eventually be a golf course with houses and the whole 9 yards. It was kind of sad to hear, and sadder
to think that this beautiful spot will someday play host to only those that can afford to pass through it gates. Why here, why, why why....
But I imagine Mexico will sell off anything to those that have enough money.
The guard by the way was a very nice guy and kind of laughed to here how we got there, and he said we could walk around and eat our lunch where we
wanted.
I like golf and have nothing bad to say about it, it's just sad to see beautiful untouched areas get plowed down so a few select can enjoy
it,,,,,,,but I guess an air horn on my Kayak will do nicely on the 18th green!
[Edited on 2-1-2009 by EnseNADAslim]
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DENNIS
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Enjoy it while you can, Slim. In a couple of years you try to beach a kayak out there, they'll be lobbing grenades at you.
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Slim - our house is abutting the Punta Brava Property; park that kayak and come on up (it's kind of steep, but walkable!) for breakfast, lunch, happy
hour(s), or dinner!
PS: It's PuntA Brava
[Edited on 2-1-2009 by bajabound2005]
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How many more of these "The end of..." stories are we going to need to hear? Until it really is the end of all of it?
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EnseNADAslim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
Slim - our house is abutting the Punta Brava Property; park that kayak and come on up (it's kind of steep, but walkable!) for breakfast, lunch, happy
hour(s), or dinner!
PS: It's PuntA Brava
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Really? Cool, what color is it? We generally head out on Saturday's from the boat ramp in La Jolla and go by the ship wreaks, pause to see if there
any whales, and then B-line it around the point. We always seem to be the only ones out there---the Yellow and Red Kayaks. We'll pack a bottle of wine
sometime and stop in.
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we are directly above those 3 "boats" anchored off Rancho Packard. The house is uh...beige (not our choice) but the garage is teal green/blue (our
choice). If you pull into out "beach", which is nothing more than some small rocks...you can pull your boat in (or anchor off shore) and walk up the
path. We did see whales last week and lots of dolphins this AM. U2U or email for specifics. Would love to have you come by!
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We all have our own stories of places lost.....reminds me of when friends move away or someone dies.....it can never be replaced......
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DENNIS
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Treasure the memories. At least, they can't be taken away.
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What happened to the federal zone?
I have been under the impression the Mexican people have the legal access to the ocean. I remember when there was no road to the point and we would
hike around the area. On Sundays you would find people fishing in many of the coves.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bronco
What happened to the federal zone?
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Everything is for sale.
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EnseNADAslim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bronco
I have been under the impression the Mexican people have the legal access to the ocean. I remember when there was no road to the point and we would
hike around the area. On Sundays you would find people fishing in many of the coves. |
To a point you can get there, but now there is a gate and like I was saying, eventually you'll bump into a guard. The only people allowed out there
now are the investors, Gov't officials, and well,,,,,,Tiger Woods--------or those that have Kayaks
True only Mexicans have true access to coastal land, and only Mexican's can purchase costal land,,,,,uhhhhhh unless you are rich and have lots of
money,,,,then Like Dennis Said, "Everything has a price tag". To put it short, they'll sell out to anyone to make a bunch of bucks. Tell me some
politician is not going to rack in the $$.$$ on this deal.
Sad thing is, When a local Mexican, his wife, and six kids pull up in their Datsun B-210 with calif. plates he will in no way be allowed into that
place.
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The Punta Brava land is owned by Mexicans.
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Red McCoombs the main money guy
Ol Red is a very interesting individual. I highly recommend you Google his name. He owns many different auto dealships and is the founder of Clear
Channel radio. I realize the guys got mega-bucks BUT, this deal was put together before the current economical crunch. Im sure add revenues are down
and we know where the auto biz is currently.
Maybe the project could be a Trump fiasco. Let's hope.
The owner of the property is the brother of Gonzales-owner of the Puerto Escondido properties that have a whole slew of unsold homes.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bronco
The owner of the property is the brother of Gonzales-owner of the Puerto Escondido properties that have a whole slew of unsold homes.
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I'm under the impression that the property is owned by the Ejido and is in process of changing hands to the development group. There are tenants on
that hill who are dealing with the Ejido office for relocation. They arn't dealing with Gonzalez although I have also heard that he is a primary
owner of at least part of the package.
It's Mexico. Does anybody really know anything? Rumors are born here faster than they were in basic training.
I do know that the office dwelling Ejidatarios are all driving new/newer vehicles since all of this started.
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The usual hype: completion date 2010. When pigs fly more like. Tiger is smart - he'll sell them a golf course design regardless of whether it gets
built. The rest of it? Ridiculous - no access, few buyers now. There are a lot of seaside golf course properties - no reason to choose some
windblown punta in Baja norte with no beach. They tout recreation for the whole family - fishing, surfing, kayaking - not for that crowd and not off
that rocky coast. All better in La Jolla, California.
http://www.tigerwoodsdesign.com/Global/Courses/Punta%20Brava...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
The usual hype: completion date 2010. When pigs fly more like. Tiger is smart - he'll sell them a golf course design regardless of whether it gets
built. The rest of it? Ridiculous - no access, few buyers now. There are a lot of seaside golf course properties - no reason to choose some
windblown punta in Baja norte with no beach. They tout recreation for the whole family - fishing, surfing, kayaking - not for that crowd and not off
that rocky coast. All better in La Jolla, California.
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It is said [yeah...I know...By whom ] that the area was chosen for many reasons. One, that the weather closely resemble Pebble Beach and people line
up to play there.
Anyway, this isn't supposed to be open to the public and the mega-rich see things differently....I think. I do know they don't need credit.
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It is my understanding that any gringo with dual citizenship owns his/her property the same as a mexican national. i.e. no fideo. You could
also apply for a beach concession if you own ocean front land and do not want the jewelry guys setting up shop outside your front/back door.
Reportedly it is "law" to not block public access to the beach, but it continues to happen everywhere.
The older I get the less I care about the whole beach front property idea. I'll just buy me a ocean waves CD, close my eyes and have a pacifico!
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The folks who are buying there will not be driving in, so access is not the issue. The property has helicopter service which will fly the homeowners
in from LA and San Diego. A large part of the reason they chose the property was because of the access. It is for a very select group and they want it
to be secluded.
I doubt you will see any pangas/kayaks coming up on shore there once the homeowners start to arrive.
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Actually, the Punta Brava website lists completion for 2011.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ckiefer
Reportedly it is "law" to not block public access to the beach, but it continues to happen everywhere.
The older I get the less I care about the whole beach front property idea. I'll just buy me a ocean waves CD, close my eyes and have a pacifico!
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You mean like Malibu, California?
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Good idea on the mind control CD. No reason to lose sleep over something you can't change.
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