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Bajaboy
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Mexico drug gangs threaten cops on radio, kill them
When will the people of Mexico stand up and say enough to the violence? And please don't give me the just legalize it crap. Can you imagine this
happening in the US? Not!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090206/wl_nm/us_mexico_drugs_2
Mexico drug gangs threaten cops on radio, kill them
By Lizbeth Diaz Lizbeth Diaz Fri Feb 6, 2:49 pm ET
TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) – Mexican drug gangs near the U.S. border are breaking into police radio frequencies to issue chilling death threats to cops
which they then carry out, demoralizing security forces in a worsening drug war.
"You're next, bastard ... We're going to get you," an unidentified drug gang member said over the police radio in the city of Tijuana after naming a
policeman.
The man also threatened a second cop by name and played foot-stomping "narcocorrido" music, popular with drug cartels, over the airwaves.
"No one can help them," an officer named Jorge said of his threatened colleagues as he heard the threats in his patrol car.
Sure enough, two hours later the dead bodies of the two named policemen were found dumped on the edge of the city, their hands tied and bullet wounds
in their heads.
Cartels killed some 530 police in Mexico last year, some of them corrupt officers who were working for rival gangs. Others were killed in shoot-outs
or murdered for working against the gangs or refusing to turn a blind eye to drug shipments.
Violence has hit shocking levels in Tijuana, over the border from San Diego, since President Felipe Calderon launched an army crackdown on traffickers
in late 2006, stirring up new wars between rival cartels over smuggling routes.
The drug war is scaring tourists and investors away from northern Mexico, forcing some businesses to shutter just as the country heads into recession
this year.
Badly-paid Tijuana municipal police, often accused of collaborating with rival wings of the local Arellano Felix cartel, are badly demoralized, senior
officers say.
"These death threats are part of the psychological warfare that organized crime is using against officers," said Tijuana police chief Gustavo Huerta.
"Before, the gangs began infiltrating the radio after a police execution, which was bad enough, but now they are doing it beforehand and the force
feels terrorized," he said.
WORN-OUT BODY ARMOR
Officers in threadbare uniforms and worn-out body armor say they are no match for drug gangs with powerful weapons and state-of-the art technology.
Some police cling to religious trinkets and pray for protection, but many others have taken early retirement.
"I and many of my colleagues are thinking our time in the force is over," said Olivia Vidal, a Tijuana policewoman with 15 years in the force. "I have
three kids. Two are at university. I would never let them follow in my footsteps."
Drug hitmen are brazenly using pirate radio decoders to flag police murders in advance on the airwave, often playing the brassy accordion-led
"narcocorrido" ballads that lionize the escapades of heavily armed, womanizing traffickers.
The gangsters use the decoder to access the radio frequency and then use a transmitter linked to a CD player and a microphone to transmit the
narcocorrido music and the threats.
In one recent attack, hitmen killed two officers in their vehicle in Tijuana and then blasted drug ballads over police radio while naming their next
targets, just as officers were reaching the first crime scene.
Some gangs sarcastically offer their "condolences" over the air after an execution, broadcasting messages like: "We are so sorry."
(Writing by Robin Emmott; Editing by Catherine Bremer and Kieran Murray)
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surfer jim
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Just when you think you have heard everything.....
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ELINVESTIG8R
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ENOUGH SAID!
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DENNIS
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This place needs the big intervention.
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Bajaboy
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I remember back when the Blood and Crips were out of control and the govt. decided enough was enough. They are still around but are kept in check.
Why can't Mexico put their gangs in check?
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We should encourage all dual citizens that are in special forces or swat teams in the USA to link back with Mexico as special forces having them live
on military bases to go out as strike teams. The USA should pay special forces international pay to those willing to step up to do this. This would
get around the foreigners being allowed to carry weapons and arrest or kill Mexican citizens. It will take something special like this to keep the
corrupt cops in Mexico from selling good cops out. Brazen you bet, raise eyebrows without a doubt, make big arrests and bring down drug cartels at
least best chance to do so. Well, that is my view on the way to handle it and maybe we could get a special forces of about 200 to go from large town
to large town staying on military bases and USA supplying all the lastest and best weapons and technology to take these cartels down.
Later----bajafun777
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I have a slightly different, and admittedly optimistic take on this. Face it, the escalation of violence only began after Calderone made it his
business to go after the cartels. What is being reported in this story could be construed as desperation. The Feds have mobilized like never before.
I'm not saying it will be over tomorrow. And, Bajaboy, the demand in our country is not abating. But, maybe the routes of distribution will change,
perhaps circumventing Mexico.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I have a slightly different, and admittedly optimistic take on this. Face it, the escalation of violence only began after Calderone made it his
business to go after the cartels. What is being reported in this story could be construed as desperation. The Feds have mobilized like never before.
I'm not saying it will be over tomorrow. And, Bajaboy, the demand in our country is not abating. But, maybe the routes of distribution will change,
perhaps circumventing Mexico. |
I like your take and optimism. Let's hope you're correct.
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The extra troops did not start the violence. That started when the plane fell on the drug king and every one wanted to take his share. then the
troops came.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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A neighbor of mine, a Mexican M.D. working in a new TJ hospital, so presumably well informed, told me that number of people in Mexico making a living
off the drug trade is estimated to be 400,000! I suppose that includes not only active "workers" but their families also.
Big business.
I have no idea if it's true, but if it is, it gives you an idea of the magnitude of the problem and the likelihood it will be solved.
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Change the penalties for drug dealing, and kidnapping. Absolute. Death. Public flogging....too much? The cops can't use the same
tactics...decapitation, and threats to their famalies.
Pay the cops a living wage. Jail time for crooked cops. That includes shaking down a motorist for 40 bucks.
Do this, and with help from us....better equipment, and technology. Mexico may be able to control this problem.
Or just LEGALIZE the crap. So long as it's illegal, there's money to be made. Someone will get into the business. Quit F%#*&* around, and control
it.
I need it stick to the trip reports, this is such a downer.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I remember back when the Blood and Crips were out of control and the govt. decided enough was enough. They are still around but are kept in check.
Why can't Mexico put their gangs in check? |
You're drawing a wide, distinct line between law enforcement and gangs when it's obvious from arrests of compromised police officials that the line
can't exist. That wasn't an issue between Crips/Bloods and police.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
I remember back when the Blood and Crips were out of control and the govt. decided enough was enough. They are still around but are kept in check.
Why can't Mexico put their gangs in check? |
You're drawing a wide, distinct line between law enforcement and gangs when it's obvious from arrests of compromised police officials that the line
can't exist. That wasn't an issue between Crips/Bloods and police. |
That is true. This is a very different battle right now. Much harder to distinguish the players and know which side they are fighting for...
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Bajahowodd
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This strikes me as similar to the prohibition era in the U.S. There were rival gangs shooting at each other, and crooked cops on the take all over the
place. Anyone recall how that problem was solved?
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I agree with you but the issue today is just as divided as it was back then. When prohibition was repealed there were many that thought that signaled
the end of the US.
Just like today...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
When will the people of Mexico stand up and say enough to the violence? And please don't give me the just legalize it crap. Can you imagine this
happening in the US? Not! |
I wasn't born during the years of prohibition of alcohol in the USA but I can put a couple of pieces of information together from the experiences that
I have read about and from first hand information of people who lived through it.
Alcohol was illegal in the USA but there were plenty of persons who were completely willing to buy it.
Alcohol was legal in Mexico and there were plenty of American citizens willing to come here to buy it.
As I can recall, pretty much ALL of the violence was contained inside the USA where alcohol was illegal during the prohibition of alcohol years but
not here in Mexico where alcohol was not prohibited.
Maybe we ought to consider this FACT in our arguments for and against the prohibition of recreational drugs.
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Stop making sense!!!!
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As has been mentioned by one of our resident sages here in the past, notwithstanding the tremendous effort that it would take to convince enough folks
in the United States that legalizing and controlling certain recreational drugs makes more sense than not, there is an even more daunting problem.
Namely that we have developed such a huge infrastructure of programs, institutions and people that earn their living from this very industry- the
so-called war on drugs. This fight has become deeply institutionalized and won't easily be dismantled.
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That is the biggest reason why the US wants to maintain the current policy IMHO...
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Legalizing and taxing makes more sense to me than fighting with everyone. and the US could use the money it has a lot of bail to pay.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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