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ELINVESTIG8R
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DO NOT GIVE BORDER PROTECTION PEOPLE ANY CRAP OR ELSE!
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1351216
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Woooosh
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When I read that article I laughed. They were both idiots IMHO.
There are signs posted in front of the San Ysidro POE inspection booths that says the agents are supposed to give a "a cordial welcome" (someone
correct the actual wording if I misquoted). I should think a simple "please" and "thank you" once in a while wouldn't hurt and would follow the
cordial part of what that welcome greeting was supposed to project.
I would not spend a half day in secondary over it though.
[Edited on 3-4-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DanO
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I'm sure all the people lined up behind this wanker were happy that he decided to make their wait longer by throwing a hissy fit instead of following
a simple and direct order by a law enforcement officer. And he's a repeat offender. He'd better get a thicker skin or he'll find himself on a watch
list (if he isn't already).
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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nancyinpdx
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I think they were both stupid and each over reacted. I nevet give anyone in major authority any guano even if they're a jerk. I value my freedom.
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Bajahowodd
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Sounds like there is more to the story. The traveler probably raised suspicion in some way. He was a male, apparently travelling alone. Have not often
seen people asked to get out of their vehicle. The story about driving all the back to Washington state to retrieve a wallet?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DanO
I'm sure all the people lined up behind this wanker were happy that he decided to make their wait longer by throwing a hissy fit instead of following
a simple and direct order by a law enforcement officer. And he's a repeat offender. He'd better get a thicker skin or he'll find himself on a watch
list (if he isn't already). |
The people that enter law enforcement are more often than not a-holes, that's why you should not trust law enforcement and avoid interacting with law
enforcement. One Canadian has learned this the hard way 
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by DanO
I'm sure all the people lined up behind this wanker were happy that he decided to make their wait longer by throwing a hissy fit instead of following
a simple and direct order by a law enforcement officer. And he's a repeat offender. He'd better get a thicker skin or he'll find himself on a watch
list (if he isn't already). |
The people that enter law enforcement are more often than not a-holes, that's why you should not trust law enforcement and avoid interacting with law
enforcement. One Canadian has learned this the hard way
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When you are robbed or assulted, do you still feel so negative about them? Or are you one of those gun carriers and never have to become a victim?
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Diver
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Hmmm, almost every time I cross back into the US, they ask me to turn off the motor and get out of the vehicle.
I always comply; never noticed if they said please; they have guns.
I understand that the guards have a job to do and at times it can be very hazardous.
They are trained to maintain control; this guy tried to win control and failed.
I see nothing wrong with giving them the "room" to do their job - easier for all.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
The people that enter law enforcement are more often than not a-holes, that's why you should not trust law enforcement and avoid interacting with law
enforcement. |
Another wanker!!
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BajaDove
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I'm sorry it was an American border guard, But there are reasons some people don't get no respect.
If its not where it is, its where it isn\'t.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | | The people that enter law enforcement are more often than not a-holes |
And that's an understatement.
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oldjack
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Did I hear the stampede of lawyers heading for this man's home(s)???? sounds like a few bucks are going to be made... after all.... unreasonable force
has to be worth a palapa in Baja
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tripledigitken
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Isn't it just common sense "not to give Border Protection people crap..."?
And the statement that more often than not people enter law enforcement are A holes is a very enlightened one.
Ken
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DENNIS
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The zone is devoid of the nicetys of life, manned by people doing a difficult job. It's only three minutes out of your life. Accept it for what it
is and move on. They can't hurt your feelings if you don't give them that power. Why do so many people allow them to ruin the day? That's the
weakness in the process.
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Dave
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You cannot make this $#!+ up
"Once, he said, he asked a Canadian border agent to be more polite when requesting documents, to which the agent responded with a sheepish
"please."
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The zone is devoid of the nicetys of life, manned by people doing a difficult job. It's only three minutes out of your life. Accept it for what it
is and move on. They can't hurt your feelings if you don't give them that power. Why do so many people allow them to ruin the day? That's the
weakness in the process. |
What he said! 
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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Frank
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I always approach it like a sales job. Im selling him the fact that Im a good guy and he doesnt have to send me to secondary.  Just part of the trip.
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40 years without a b-tch or whine!
After all these years and 12 as a permanent resident I really have no major complaint. At times some were obvious trainees and needed some adjustment.
I cross at least twice a month. It's very strange ,I'm polite with passport at the ready, since I don't drink and always clean up before I head to the
US I have had some very short conversations. Even when it' a long, with steaming temps I understand until they revise the system, and it really needs
it, be nice the guy on your right could be a terriorists who is gonna pull the plug for not being treated well.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I always say yes-sir and no-sir. Having been in Law Enforcement for 23 years I do not give any lip to anyone doing the cop job...Of course I would not
hesitate to rebuke a cop who was sirly to me for no reason and go through the evolution whether good bad or ugly.
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bajabound2005
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We have never encountered any border patrol agent that was not friendly, polite and cordial...and we cross every few weeks. We offer them the same
courtesies. A cheerful Good Morning, have all the windows down, sunglasses removed, etc - goes a long way.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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