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desertcpl
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Bobby Gordon possbile cheating in the Baja 250
http://www.dirtnewz.com/events-09/sanfelipe/robbygordon-3-16...
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elgatoloco
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Love the youtube documentation and the Johnny Cash soundtrack. It will be interesting to see how things develop. We were listening live to the radio
relay during the race when things started looking fishy. It would seem that if you are going to take a shortcut as alleged that you should come in
first,no? 
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David K
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In the old days, the goal was to get from the start to the finish as quickly as possible as long as you went through each checkpoint...
At the 250, no checkpoint was missed, so it depends on how the rules state about 'open running' between checkpoints. I would guess that SCORE didn't
figure anyone would shortcut into Matomi canyon by driving off that cliff!
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rpleger
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Shame on Robby....
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Neal Johns
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Here is the course map if you want to take the shortcut. 
http://www.score-international.com/webresources/files/1095/r...
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bajalou
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And last year in a NASCAR race he was caught throwing roll bar padding out the window of his car to get debris on the track so there would be a Yellow
flag on the lap and he could catch up.
No Bad Days
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\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
And last year in a NASCAR race he was caught throwing roll bar padding out the window of his car to get debris on the track so there would be a Yellow
flag on the lap and he could catch up. |
Old school and I love it!
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thebajarunner
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Looks to me like the man did what he had to do to get around a guy that did not want to get out of his way.
Hard to visualize that as "short-cut"
Seems like a pretty rugged path to run....
(If it was really a short cut, then the regular road would already run that direction- that is the way Baja roads get cut in, by finding the shortest,
best path to the destination)
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805gregg
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It's Mexico, I thought it was ok to cheat as long as you didn't get caught?
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bajalou
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
Looks to me like the man did what he had to do to get around a guy that did not want to get out of his way.
Hard to visualize that as "short-cut"
Seems like a pretty rugged path to run....
(If it was really a short cut, then the regular road would already run that direction- that is the way Baja roads get cut in, by finding the shortest,
best path to the destination) |
Cutting 4 miles off the course to me is a "short cut". There are indications that he had "Pre-run" this route.
Score website says they'll make a decision by the end of the week on the protests.
[Edited on 3-18-2009 by bajalou]
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cbuzzetti
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Their waiting to see how much cash is in the unmarked bag ;-)
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Dave
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Nah...it's OK to get caught
| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
It's Mexico, I thought it was ok to cheat as long as you didn't get caught? |
There's no shame in it. Caught my neighbor stealing my electricity. His response,"Everyone does it."
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Gadget
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
And last year in a NASCAR race he was caught throwing roll bar padding out the window of his car to get debris on the track so there would be a Yellow
flag on the lap and he could catch up. |
Old school and I love it! |
Old school was throwing a 2 foot piece of angle iron out the window while you were in the lead.
Roll bar padding??? thats for sissys
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Al G
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The life of Baja Off road racing...not road course.
Robby Gordon is not a legend in NASCAR...he does rank in the top 35 of NASCAR which makes him one of the top 35 drivers in the world. He has more
smarts and gonads then all the whiners in off road racing. Notice I did not say road course racing. This may have sparked a little life back in off
road racing. God knows it needs it. If Score?? changes the rules for these whiners, then you can count Baja off road racing in the same dieing camp as
most all open wheel racing...Gutless. Well, an over statement, as open wheel drivers still have a few brass gonads hanging around.
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akbear
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Remember When....
PJ had a Cat cut a "short cut" off the top of the El Rosario airport mesa so he & a few friends could cut off running up the arroyo.
akbear
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bajalou
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From the Score website 806pm
NOTE - ON SATURDAY EVENING, A PROTEST WAS HEARD BY SCORE & CRB AGAINST 2ND PLACE SCORE TROPHY TRUCK FINISHER ROBBY GORDON AND A DECISION WAS
RENDERED IN FAVOR OF ROBBY GORDON. AN APPEAL OF THIS DECISION WAS SUBMITTED BY A TROPHY TRUCK COMPETITOR ON SUNDAY MORNING AND THE APPEAL WAS
ACCEPTED BY SCORE. THIS APPEAL HAS BEEN FORMALLY WITHDRAWN BY THE COMPETITOR. AS A RESULT, THE INITIAL DECISION IN FAVOR OF ROBBY GORDON WILL STAND
AND THE SCORE TROPHY TRUCK RESULTS ARE NOW OFFICIAL.
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surfer jim
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I am ....shocked...
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EnseNADAslim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
It's Mexico, I thought it was ok to cheat as long as you didn't get caught? |
Uhhhhh, I think he got caught.
Actually, yes, it is Mexico, and I like the old school way of thinking, but they have a course set out for reason as to keep everyone from going which
ever way they want, and ripping through some Rancher's property.
If ya don't surface, you won't get harpooned,,,,Robby Surfaced!
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David K
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Well, now we have a new way to drop into Matomi!
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The tracking devices make you stay on course and within the speed limits on the hwy. This race did not use the trackers and this is the results. Over
the years many have used lines that some would call cheating and others may say were creative. Some factory teams were given options that others did
not know about. No body should be surprised as to what happens in these situations. Honda and Kawasaki got away with cheating for years. It was
highlighted in the movie Dust to Glory showing Johnny Campbell running down the shore line. Not once but twice. That would not be cheating if Sal
tolded Honda is was OK before the race. If he did he should also have told the other riders about it at the deivers/riders meeting.
Keep the tracking devices in the race and we will have better racing.
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