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fishbuck
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Swine flu outbreak in Mexico!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090424/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_fl...
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Bajahowodd
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Currently, no one is exactly certain about whether this is an old virus, that has just been identified because using modern, sophisticated techniques
allowed it to be found. Second, it's still up in the air as to its source. Some think the point of origination was the American Southwest. That being
said, it appears that for a flu, the mortality rate is quite low.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Currently, no one is exactly certain about whether this is an old virus, that has just been identified because using modern, sophisticated techniques
allowed it to be found. Second, it's still up in the air as to its source. Some think the point of origination was the American Southwest. That being
said, it appears that for a flu, the mortality rate is quite low. |
Go check it out and report back in.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Ford
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Just reported on the news last night that as of right now there are no travel restrictions to Mexico but the CDC is investigating the possabilty of
instating one. Just what Mexico needed right now! Less people traveling....could it get worse for them?
Maybe this will mean cheaper flights?
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flyfishinPam
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I watched TV on thursday evening (a rare event for me) and on hechos channel 13 news they constantly mentioned this flu. The secretary of health made
a detailled announcement and warned citizens to avoid contact with other persons whenever possible, no greetings by kissing or handshakes, avoid
crowds, when you blow your nose put the tissue into a plastic bag then into the garbage (don't throw it on the ground), wash hands with soap and water
frequently...also the schools were closed on friday from Kindergarden through university in all of Mexico city and the state of Mexico... yeesh, how
the hell do you avoid crowds in Mexico city?? but then they state these warnings are for precaution only there is no emergency. 
my other comments on this topic are in the off topic forum and may be considered to be non baja related to some
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=38412
[Edited on 4-25-2009 by flyfishinPam]
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Bajahowodd
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They've gone a step further by virtually closing all places of public assembly such as movie theaters, sports venues and malls.
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Hook
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From the Yahoo article...............
"The geographical spread of the outbreaks also concerned the WHO — while 13 of the 20 deaths were in Mexico City, the rest were spread across Mexico —
four in central San Luis Potosi, two up near the U.S. border in Baja California, and one in southern Oaxaca state.
Ahhh, a 21st Century gauntlet..............
[Edited on 4-25-2009 by Hook]
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bajaguy
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DHS Report
From US DHS...Yuma Sector, US Border Patrol 4-24-09 :
Mexico reports Over 800 cases of people with the symptoms of Swine Influenza (Flu)
The World Health Organization has expressed their concerns for the recent outbreak of the Swine Influenza (Flu). They are especially concerned with
the outbreak in Mexico, where approximately 800 cases of the Swine Flu have been reported. As of April 24, 2009, the state of Distrito Federal,
Mexico has reported 57 deaths associated with the Swine Flu.
The City of San Luis, Potisi, Mexico has reported 24 cases and 3 deaths associated with the Swine Flu. The Mexican Health Department reported that
the majority of the cases involve young adults without any previous history relating to the Flu. They have only reported a small number of cases
involving children and the elderly.
According to the report only two states in the United States have reported similar symptoms of the Swine Flu. California has reported 5 cases and
Texas has reported 2 cases. There have been no reports of deaths relating to this in the United States to date.
The infected individuals were hospitalized for a few days and have fully recovered. The symptoms have been described as minor and similar to those of
the regular Flu; fever, coughing, intense headache, muscular and joint ache, nasal dripping and red eyes. Officials in the United States have
described the virus as a new sub-type of the (Cepa) H1N1.
Swine Influenza rarely affects humans and generally when humans are infected its agricultural workers or people who directly work with pigs.
Due to the situation, the Mexican Government has decided to cancel classes this Friday for all public and private schools and Universities located in
Distrito Federal and Estado de México to prevent any more cases. Mexican Authorities have also recommended avoiding highly populated locations such
as theaters and for residents to wash their hands often using soap and water.
Authorities advised residents to stay at home if they were ill and to cover their mouth and nose when sneezing and coughing, and to limit personal
contact.
Swine Influenza (Flu)
Swine Influenza (swine flu) is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type A influenza that regularly cause outbreaks of influenza among pigs. Swine
flu viruses do not normally infect humans. However, sporadic human infections with swine flu do occasionally occur. Most commonly, human cases of
swine influenza happen in people with direct exposure to pigs.
In the past, CDC received reports of approximately one human swine influenza virus infection every one to two years in the U.S., but since December
2005, 14 cases of human infection with swine influenza, including the two cases in California with onset of illness late in March 2009, have been
reported.
While most instances of human infection with animal influenza viruses do not result in human-to-human transmission, each case should be fully
investigated to be sure that such viruses are not spreading among humans and to limit further exposure of humans to infected animals, if infected
animals are identified. Investigation into possible human to human transmission of swine influenza in the most recent two cases is ongoing.
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The Gull
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Kissing pigs can be fatal?
Dennis, do you know this?
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Kissing pigs can be fatal?
Dennis, do you know this? |
Not nearly as deadly as the avian flu that has apparently broken out on the Nomads board again. 
No known cure for it, either...................
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bajabillybob
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This is no joking matter. This might be the the one problem that closes the border to all traffic. I would head north and stay north of the line just
in case it gets out of hand and the booster shots are not available in Mexico. No slight to Baja but your chances of survival are greater in the USA.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Kissing pigs can be fatal?
Dennis, do you know this? |
Shame on you, Gull. This is no time for humor. 
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Dave
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Oh, God!
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabillybob
No slight to Baja but your chances of survival are greater in the USA. |
We're all doomed. 
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mulegemichael
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i'm gonna die!!!..eventually..
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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bajabillybob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
i'm gonna die!!!..eventually.. |
Spoken like someone who is back in the states right now.
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LB
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The BBC has a link to stories from doctors and people living in affected areas.
Reports show it to be MUCH MORE WIDE SPREAD than reported and MANY MORE
deaths. Please read.
bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm
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bajabillybob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabillybob
No slight to Baja but your chances of survival are greater in the USA. |
We're all doomed. |
There are many in Baja who are not chained to a business like you who can decide that its better to go to a place that has the capacity to handle a
medical emergency for the masses. I do not think that the standard nomad knee-jerk reaction is the way to deal with this issue that is compounding
every hour.
It is obvious that those with a vested interest in a Baja business are the first to encourage sticking our collective heads in the sand rather than
dealing with real issues with common sense and logic .
Go ahead and flame away.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LB
The BBC has a link to stories from doctors and people living in affected areas.
Reports show it to be MUCH MORE WIDE SPREAD than reported and MANY MORE
deaths. Please read.
bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm |
http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ta...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabillybob
There are many in Baja who are not chained to a business like you who can decide that its better to go to a place that has the capacity to handle a
medical emergency for the masses. I do not think that the standard nomad knee-jerk reaction is the way to deal with this issue that is compounding
every hour.
It is obvious that those with a vested interest in a Baja business are the first to encourage sticking our collective heads in the sand rather than
dealing with real issues with common sense and logic .
Go ahead and flame away. |
Kinda heavy for a nice Sunday morning, isn't it BillyBob?
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toneart
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I have all the symptoms except for intestinal problems. It started with a scratchy throat and bringing up phlem from the lungs. Now it is more
concentrated in the lungs. So far, the coughing is not spasmodic. But coughing is useful for clearing the lungs...momentarily. Today, I have a mild
fever, but overall, feel OK.
I did get a flu shot in November, but obviously, whatever I got was not covered by the shot, or maybe it lessened the impact. Probably not the Swine
flu, but I am going to Dr. Dan tomorrow morning to let him check it out.
FYI I am in Mulege.
[Edited on 4-26-2009 by toneart]
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