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GC
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Suzuki Samurai
Just purchased a 1987 Suzuki Samurai JX for the main purpose of using as a toad behind a motor home. However, I do plan to explore offroad with it
also. I have been looking at all of the forums I can find to see what I need to do to the
Samurai to run BFG AT 235/75R 15s on it. Since I have already put the tires on the car (they required a little trimming of the inside of the front
bumper) I am commited to the project. Seem to be okay driving around Ensenada, but don't think I should go off road until I do some type of Lift.
Any Nomad Samurai driver's out there with recommendations?
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durrelllrobert
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george, if you jack it up enough you will be able to tip over in your driveway
Bob Durrell
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Bob and Susan
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Rod's in Marshalltown, IA
http://www.samuraisalvage.com/
this is the guy to talk to...
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bajaguy
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Zuki
Try this link, then go to the forum...has plenty of info:
http://www.zukiworld.com
I have a Chevy Tracker and put on some 1" wheel spacers
from Rocky Road:
http://www.rocky-road.com/
And a 3 combo lift kt from Masterkit1:
http://www.masterkit1.com/SiteANG09.htm
I run 235x75-15s with no probem and have a 2" wider stance
Will have it in Ensenada soon as my run around town car
[Edited on 4-29-2009 by bajaguy]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by GC
, but don't think I should go off road until I do some type of Lift. Any Nomad Samurai driver's out there with recommendations?
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Is the 1987 Samurai about same as the 1980 LJ80? I think it is. I had a soft top LJ80 overseas, and the stock version could go places most full
size 4WDs could not go. Clearance was never an issue, as it was adequate in stock configuaration, and the wheel base was so short and width so
narrow, that you could drive around most any obstacle, whereas full size vehicles had to go over obstacles. LJ80 was so light that it was impossible
to get stuck.
What year did Suzuki get in trouble for roll instability? I think after that year the stock models in US were lower to ground.
In general, putting a lift kit on a 1980s vintage suzuki is a recipe for instability. 1980s vintage suzukis are top heavy death traps --- avoid high
speed trips, especially if you put on a lift kit.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
........What year did Suzuki get in trouble for roll instability? I think after that year the stock models in US were lower to ground.
In general, putting a lift kit on a 1980s vintage suzuki is a recipe for instability. 1980s vintage suzukis are top heavy death traps --- avoid high
speed trips, especially if you put on a lift kit. |
Thats why I put the 1" wheel spacers on....widens(sp) the
track by 2"....more stability.
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CortezBlue
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I have an 87 Zuki that has a 1.6L Sidekick Motor and it has been lifted 6" over axel. I am trying to figure out how to include a photo on here.
[Edited on 4-29-2009 by CortezBlue]
[Edited on 4-30-2009 by CortezBlue]
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
I have an 87 Zuki that has a 1.6L Sidekick Motor and it has been lifted 6" over axel. I am trying to figure out how to include a photo on here.
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The pixs have to be under 50K. If so then call it up using the browse for attachments that you see when replying (not the quick reply) then just
attach it.
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GC
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Thank you for the inputs. There is sure a lot of information on the Samurai out there and I am having fun researching it. Cheers, GC.
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TMW
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
I have an 87 Zuki that has a 1.6L Sidekick Motor and it has been lifted 6" over axel. I am trying to figure out how to include a photo on here.
[Edited on 4-29-2009 by CortezBlue]
[Edited on 4-30-2009 by CortezBlue] |
If there wasn't someone in the vehicle it would look like a Big Foot type vechile with those oversize tires. What size differential ratio do you use
with such a mall engine?
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BajaBruno
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My experience mimics mtgoat666’s. I rented one of these in Belize many years ago (a totally stock soft-top) and then drove it hard for many hours
over miserable dirt roads into southern Belize, along beaches, then at NASCAR speeds over brutal dirt roads to Tikal, Guatemala and back—all with four
occupants.
Although the ride for those in back was much less than comfortable, the car was perfectly serviceable in stock condition and did everything we asked
of it.
I have always been hesitant to mess with the stock suspension engineering unless I wanted to tailor a vehicle for a very narrow range of use. I
figure those factory engineers know more about a car’s geometry than I do, or the knuckleheads at the local hillbilly truck shop.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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CortezBlue
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If there wasn't someone in the vehicle it would look like a Big Foot type vechile with those oversize tires. What size differential ratio do you use
with such a mall engine? [/quote
Not sure what the gear ratio is, but the 1.6L engine is an upgrade from the 1.3L
I think the tire are 33's. All I know is I have pulled many a high dollar sand rails out of the sand n 4wd low.
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Cyanide41
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
1980s vintage suzukis are top heavy death traps --- avoid high speed trips, especially if you put on a lift kit.
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This is a SUZUKI we are talking about. My first car was a 91 sidekick. It
topped out at 85 on the freeway with a huge straight away and then the doors were about to fall off. We beat the hell out of that poor thing and
never had any issues.
[Edited on 5-11-2009 by Cyanide41]
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Von
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Had an 88 never ever had any problems went through the desert for two weeks with no problems one time from orange county to la paz boy do i misss my
Samurai good old days....
READY SET.....................
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rpleger
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This is my third Samari and they just keep going and going...
Lost my other two in the Mulegé flood, gave em to my mechanic there back to running again....The Best for Baja
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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wsdunc
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Lots of info/knowledge/parts at www.petroworks.com
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oldjack
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I was thinking of getting a Suzuki to commute from SJD airport to Los Barriles... which model.... not wanting to off-road(except for all the
construction) just something less expensive than leaving the Tacoma parked at the airport for 3-4 weeks at a time... which model would be the most
comfortable driving down the highway????
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Bajajack
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldjack
I was thinking of getting a Suzuki to commute from SJD airport to Los Barriles... which model.... not wanting to off-road(except for all the
construction) just something less expensive than leaving the Tacoma parked at the airport for 3-4 weeks at a time... which model would be the most
comfortable driving down the highway???? |
1998 Tracker, almost exact drive train as Samurai but with a
bigger engine.
Samurai's are ok off road but it's tough trying to keep any speed on the Hwy.
Put any oversize tires on them and you will be rowing 3rd and 4th constantly, forget about 5th, it ain't gonna happen.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldjack
I was thinking of getting a Suzuki to commute from SJD airport to Los Barriles... which model.... not wanting to off-road(except for all the
construction) just something less expensive than leaving the Tacoma parked at the airport for 3-4 weeks at a time... which model would be the most
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if just commuting and highway driving, then a passenger car is more comfortable. suzuki small suvs are not as comfortable as a sedan, not as fun to
drive. get a toyota or VW sedan.
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bajaguy
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Jack
Check this website:
http://www.zukiworld.com/
click on the forums and read away....
Lots of good info on Suzukis and Trackers......If'n I was you, I would look for a 95-99 Suzuki or Tracker 2 door, 2 or 4WD.
They are NOT road cars......I drove mine from Grants Pass to Carson City in one day.......not a fun trip. Top speed about 65, hit 75 a couple of
times......fun off road, a tow car or a driver to town, but not a lot of creature comforts for a long drive.
[Edited on 5-13-2009 by bajaguy]
[Edited on 5-13-2009 by bajaguy]
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