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Woooosh
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The fine for flipping off a TJ cop... $384 pesos
As I approached the border yesterday in the "SAN DIEGO ONLY" lane. I got caught in the middle of three small white unmarked cars zigzagging lanes and
playing cat-mouse games with each other. I was literally caught in the middle of the three and had two near collisions as I couldn't get left or
right. Each time they almost hit my car the occupants in the back seats turned, pointed and laughed at me. No lights, no sirens no plates. It could
have been an abduction attempt for all I knew. I responded with the international sign of peace and love as I pulled into line. Of course they were
police.
I followed them to the station (all twelve of them in three cars) while I phoned the cars ID numbers to my friend at the TJ Police Department. It
cost me $384 pesos (because I refused show respect to the officer who lead the group- even in front of the judge). I felt this was intentional
harassment aimed at a tourist. After admitting he endangered my safety the cops said he would have had to pay for any damage done to my car so I
shouldn't have been upset. Huh?
Thanks to some friends high up in the Police Department I had a nice sit down chat with the assistant Chief of Police right after who assured me these
men and women were very wrong, out of control and that they should be out fighting crime instead of terrorizing tourists approaching the border lines.
24 man hours were wasted from fighting crime because the officer was offended I flipped him off. That didn't sit well with the assitant chief- who
called them all back to the station for a "meeting".
Luckily all the license and registration info I supplied was with my USA post office box info. They have no love for tourists visiting Mexico and
said so several times.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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vandenberg
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I suggest you refrain from using the same vehicle again if you have any intention going back to or through TJ.
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DENNIS
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As soon as I get a couple of thousand bucks I don't need, I know what I'm gonna do with it.
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woody with a view
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that's why we NEVER pass thru tj, except for that run TO the first toll booth. never on the return trip.....
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Whooosh, What a load. Sorry you had to deal with bad cops. Even though they were Tijuana Cops I would hope for a little professionalism. I guess
not!!!
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The Gull
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You get what you deserve
The TJ cops and the judge must lurk on this site and know of your regular negative "contributions" about their country.
Keep up the good work and hopefully pistol whipping hasn't gone out of vogue.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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DENNIS
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OUCH
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
The TJ cops and the judge must lurk on this site and know of your regular negative "contributions" about their country.
Keep up the good work and hopefully pistol whipping hasn't gone out of vogue. |
LOL. Ouch? Yeah- I'm mister popular down here these days. It's hard for a CT yankee with very different moral codes and values to adjust to this
place. I didn't have my first taco until I went away to college and now half my family doesn't really know how to eat with a knife and fork (but
they try for me on holiday meals to be polite). So it's been a learning curve for me and I'm a little stubborn on some things to my detriment. I
admitted to the Asst. Chief that I was wrong to disrespect theofficer but he stopped my sentence and said the apology was his after what they had put
me through. I honestly wasn't upset or irate- just insistent that this was not proper police conduct towards a tourist exitingthe country. They were
just playing a car chase game like little boys and I became the game once I got their attnetion. Luckily I have like-minded good Mexican friends in
the right places. And I know people in the wrong places if I need them and people know that- which is the only way you survive in Mexico... to master
the art of the Mexican Standoff. Not what I had planned for a retirement straetgy- but it's working out and the plusses still far outweigh the
minuses.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Woooosh
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the silver lining...
On the good side, while I was handcuffed standing against the wall in front of the police station... waiting to stand on the red line to talk to the
judge-in-a-box, my motorcycle mechanic came by. I have a vintage dirt bike he has helped me restore over the past few years. He also works on the
motorcycles for the TJ police force during the day. He was really great. He shook my hand (best we could with the cuffs on) we talked and laughed
about the situation and he scolded me about ticking off the TJ cops. He went over and talked to the cops who brought me in. I thought that was
really nice of him. He came back and said they were still mad at me because I wouldn't apologize- but that they were going to let me go. Not too
many Mexicans will stand up to the police for anyone down here and I was very moved by it. I didn't need his help at that point- so I thanked him for
stopping by to help me and promised to drop by his shop with my bike next week. It's running great- but why not let him give it a tune up. He said
he gets "punished" for being a such a good mechanic that people don't come back to fix the same thing again and again. A very nice guy that I look
forwad to visiting.
[Edited on 5-14-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Frank
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Its getting harder everyday to keep saying to myself, " We are going to Baja for Vacation again this year."
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Von
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Just get a helicopter and avoid these problems my friend.
READY SET.....................
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fdt
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Yes! You could flip them all at the same time from the air !
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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mtgoat666
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Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I responded with the international sign of peace and love as I pulled into line. Of course they were police.
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that's a pretty funny story bet you learned not to flip off cops
dude, i too have flipped the bird at inappropriate times. after one wrong flipped bird, i got chased by some enraged lunatics -- took several miles
of high speed driving of 3:00 AM Los Angeles city streets to lose 'em.
my lesson learned: i never mess with strangers in cars -- setting off a road rager is scary sh*t.
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norte
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glad you mad my next trip down a little more enjoyable.... who said we are uglu Americans!
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Who said we are ugly Americans! |
Just about everybody. If you don't hear it, you arn't listening.
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Dave
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Lets talk
Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
As soon as I get a couple of thousand bucks I don't need, I know what I'm gonna do with it. |
I can get it done wholesale.
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thebajarunner
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I never flip off another driver..... NEVER!!
Instead I slowly lift my right hand, extend my index finger and slowly and precisely tap my forehead.
Trust me, this is a far greater insult than a crude middle finger.
Hey, any three tooth Okie can flip you off,
it takes creativity to make the gesture meaningful.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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God ain't "Contempt of Cop" great.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
it takes creativity to make the gesture meaningful. |
It would be even more meaningful if you methodically tapped on your forehead with your middle finger. Cover all bases....so to speak.
OOOps...forgot the laughing head
[Edited on 5-15-2009 by DENNIS]
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Mango
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
As soon as I get a couple of thousand bucks I don't need, I know what I'm gonna do with it. |
If I win the lottery I'm spending the money on an old dodge power wagon, two crash helmets, and the best crash attorney money can buy to ride along as
my co-pilot.
Pull a "Mexican" left turn from the right lane in front of me..and prepare to be "Darwinized"!
Other infractions will be enforced.
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