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udaman
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Need solid advice here.
My wife and I have spent many years in baja and had hoped for a retirement party down there one day. We have been very concerned with all the
violence that seems to be happening there everyday it seems. We had looked at homes in the Mulege/Loreto area but have decided that Panama seems to
be a sure bet as the land is much more safe in terms of crime and a
real estate market that is predictable. Can you tell us why Baja is a sure bet compared to Panama and why should we move to Baja compared to
Panama,It seems that violence is all over Naja and folks should be careful .
What do you sat
[Edited on 5-29-2009 by udaman]
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woody with a view
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the only for sure is the sun coming up tomorrow. you should now this by now....
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fishbuck
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My guess is that there is crime in Panama too. And if Panama was right next to the US like Baja you would hear more about it.
The Baja crime thing seems way over hyped.
But Panama does look very cool. Probably very good fishing there.
If you need to come back to the US for any reason it's a long flight and an even longer drive.
[Edited on 5-29-2009 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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comitan
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Here's a blog from someone in Panama, If you go into his archives you can find out about all the crime down there and the real estate scams.
http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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rhintransit
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I say that no one can make that call for you. I don't mean to sound harsh or unwelcoming to a newbie, but read, read, read and make your own
decision. if you've been visiting Baja for years, and if you have been monitoring the forums here, you should have a pretty good idea of what Baja is
about, the current 'climate' of violence, which depends entirely on where you are, and the pitfalls of buying property here. I suggest you rent or,
if you decide to buy in, you follow the age old be prepared to walk away from your 'investment' at any time adage. that's in Baja Mexico OR Panama.
reality\'s never been of much use out here...
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DENNIS
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Nobody can influence your decision, a choice between Baja and Panama. It's up to you to do your evaluation of each area. I know there's good and
bad about Baja and I'm sure the same qualities distinguish Panama.
I don't understand the question, at all. You must have some affirmative reason for even considering Panama. Why would you even be so unsure of
yourself to pose a question, which would influence your life, to an internet site which is specific in it's scope?
Perhaps you should put off relocation until you can make big decisions based on your own research and desires. Go where you want to go because you
understand why, not because others persuade you for their reasons.
Wherever you go, have a good trip.
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rts551
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My guess is your mind is made up.. and you are just trolling. have a good retirement in Panama. Operative word was "have decided"
| Quote: | Originally posted by udaman
My wife and I have spent many years in baja and had hoped for a retirement party down there one day. We have been very concerned with all the
violence that seems to be happening there everyday it seems. We had looked at homes in the Mulege/Loreto area but have decided that Panama seems to
be a sure bet as the land is much more safe in terms of crime and a
real estate market that is predictable. Can you tell us why Baja is a sure bet compared to Panama and why should we move to Baja compared to
Panama,It seems that violence is prevelany.
and folks should be careful .
What do you sat |
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shari
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I have lived in baja sur, costa rica, ecuador and panama and of all the countries Panama was the worst. What people like about baja is the people but
the panamanians have a different character...they are much more "gruff" and not nearly as friendly and the crime was horrible...plus its so far away
that not many amigos can visit you. But I do have a friend who moved there and is into real estate and he loves it so....whatever.
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gnukid
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Try renting in both spots and see how you like it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Try renting in both spots and see how you like it. |
There ya go. You won't get any better advice than that.
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norte
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Right next to DENNIS. That way you can get the true Baja experience.... and if he won't do... try Woosh just down the street!!!!!
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Try renting in both spots and see how you like it. |
There ya go. You won't get any better advice than that. |
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k-rico
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You're worried about crime in Mulege and Loreto?
You worry too much.
I live in TJ and am not worried about the crime spree. In case you haven't noticed, if you're not a drug dealer or a cop, there's really not too much
to worry about.
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805gregg
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Check out Ecuador, very cheap beachfront property. Rent first is the best advice anywhere. In Baja or Mexico I would only rent.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
Check out Ecuador, very cheap beachfront property. Rent first is the best advice anywhere. In Baja or Mexico I would only rent.
[Edited on 5-29-2009 by 805gregg] |
Costa Rica also! And, they have outstanding fishing down there.
Bob H
[Edited on 5-29-2009 by Bob H]
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udaman
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Thank you for your quick and informative answers to most of you. The rest of you seem jaded and with your answers have answered my questions about who
I would want to meet and hang out with there. I see even this board is not immune to jaded and self centered people taking it over.
Thanks again.
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dtbushpilot
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You're right uda, there are a few jerks here.....there are more good folks though. Don't give up on us yet.....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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DENNIS
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I thought we were all on pretty good behavior. I know it can get worse.
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DENNIS
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Why is it that my early warning troll detector keeps going off lately? I'm gonna have to have it serviced.
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woody with a view
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i'm a jerk.... i don't need others to pick my retirement location, or where will i lay my head tonight?
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toneart
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Jeez, that is loud, Dennis.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Why is it that my early warning troll detector keeps going off lately? I'm gonna have to have it serviced. |
I can hear it way over here. Oops, sorry. That was mine I was hearing. 
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