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LancairDriver
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Land of the Free?
Land of the Free?
A pilot and retired military officer who has a residence in Loreto and frequently flies down to Baja from Long Beach, CA recently had an unbelievable
experience with CBP and Long Beach Airport police. As he was preparing to depart Long Beach with 3 passengers on a flight to Loreto which had
previously been approved as required by CBP under the "new" eApis registration system, he found himself surrounded by flashing red lights and
automatic weapons pointed at him and his passengers. They were ordered out of the plane with their hands behind their heads. After a brutal shakedown
of 45 to 50 minutes they were released and told it was a "routine" random check. See details on the following link and listen to the podcast also.
This is another step in what is in the future for all of us if it is allowed to continue. There are several similar incidents in which the details are
emerging in Santa Ana as well as Long Beach.
http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1390-full.html...
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DENNIS
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It would seem that Jack-Booted Thugery has become the norm. What a sick freakin shame.
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disgusting Geo.
i have been waiting for Jefe Jack's report on BBP and know you have followed the action over there too.
this is where we are headed unless something is done.
now with eAPIS comes all sorts of fun stuff.....the donkey's head is out of the barn ...here comes the rest of the a$$.......   
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tehag
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Freedom
Those willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.
Paraphrased from a quote by somebody.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Lancdiver:
Please explain "The brutal shakedown", I did not see or hear any evidence of this.
Do you have other evidence of Brutality??
Thank you
Skeet/Loreto
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LancairDriver
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It's a tough call. Seems many call for tougher borders, except when it affects them.
I have been treated rudely by border patrol and customs, and just take it as par for the course.
Been approached by Coast Guard boats with lights ablaze and men on 50-cal machine guns. Then they board your boat carrying auto weapons.
Been pulled over by cops with lights flashinjg and hands on holstered weapon.
Been pulled to secondary border inspection and subject to search.
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Bajahowodd
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I guess much of it depends on your understanding of the definition of brutality. One thing is for certain, it was obviously an unnecessary show of
force.
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LancairDriver
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Skeet- I call a thug pointing an automatic weapon at me and screaming hysterically as is the mode the cops these days operate in, "brutallity". If you
feel comfortable having one of these lowlifes pointing an automatic weapon at you good luck.
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gnukid
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Why this type of behavior is orchestrated: Order from Chaos.
Organizational groups which lead US and World Policy, namely Council on Foreign Relations led by David Rockefellar has long planned and is now
executing their plan toward Global Government, the North American Union.
This is part of setup. The local police are increasing being trained that US Americans are the next terrorists and those with ties to foreign
countries especially so. You see it everyday, local police are using excessive and unreasonable force to do their jobs and in doing so attracting
attention.
Soon, or already, their actions are causing a reaction and one day retaliation. Once begun it will be a flood. The people will be directly confronted
by the overt unreasonable attacks and will act accordingly to respond to unwarranted and unreasonable aggression by local militia. In response to vast
chaos, a solution will be provided. The solution will come in the form of new policies and a complete reorganization.
The new organization will be the North American Union, more open borders like in the EU and North American police and military (already in agreed on
and in training).
So, unfortunately while this is obvious to the victims, and even some police and militia may refuse to participate, many will follow the training and
attack and mistreat their own populations as the perceived enemy.
This is well documented in policy documents. Now you are witnessing publicized examples of over-zealous and ineffective police from Alaska to Cabo.
It's theorized in policy that a fnwo (fake new world order aka jack booted idiotic thugs) attacks Public, rnwo (Real New World Order aka NAU) comes to
the rescue and is welcomed by Public welcoming the NAU.
The solution is do not fall victim to the ploy, ignore them, document it, but move on. If you are drawn into the battle you will lose and NAU wins. If
you ignore it they lose their power in the game. Be aware its going down very quickly.
Here David Rockefellar congratulates Cheney at the CFR for forwarding the NAFTA/NAU plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg
Keep in mind, there have been almost no cases of any terrorists prosecuted with any real evidence anywhere-even in 9/11, even in Iraq and Afghanistan,
except the cases of terrorism as torture of US prisoners and US black operations conducting targeted assassinations, false flag attacks and bioterror
such as Anthrax which admittedly came from Government offices.
Reminder, this isn't liberal vs conservative, it isnt about young vs old or men against women. Its about seeing your community as your local team and
your neighbor as someone you need to work with and and depend on. Get involved locally, be self-sufficient and do not play into this attack on the USA
and our tradition of lawful behavior. Be peaceful.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Why this type of behavior is orchestrated: Order from Chaos.
Organizational groups which lead US and World Policy, namely Council on Foreign Relations led by David Rockefellar has long planned and is now
executing their plan toward Global Government, the North American Union.
This is part of setup. The local police are increasing being trained that US Americans are the next terrorists and those with ties to foreign
countries especially so. You see it everyday, local police are using excessive and unreasonable force to do their jobs and in doing so attracting
attention.
Soon, or already, their actions are causing a reaction and one day retaliation. Once begun it will be a flood. The people will be directly confronted
by the overt unreasonable attacks and will act accordingly to respond to unwarranted and unreasonable aggression by local militia. In response to vast
chaos, a solution will be provided. The solution will come in the form of new policies and a complete reorganization.
The new organization will be the North American Union, more open borders like in the EU and North American police and military (already in agreed on
and in training).
So, unfortunately while this is obvious to the victims, and even some police and militia may refuse to participate, many will follow the training and
attack and mistreat their own populations as the perceived enemy.
This is well documented in policy documents. Now you are witnessing publicized examples of over-zealous and ineffective police from Alaska to Cabo.
It's theorized in policy that a fnwo (fake new world order aka jack booted idiotic thugs) attacks Public, rnwo (Real New World Order aka NAU) comes to
the rescue and is welcomed by Public welcoming the NAU.
The solution is do not fall victim to the ploy, ignore them, document it, but move on. If you are drawn into the battle you will lose and NAU wins. If
you ignore it they lose their power in the game. Be aware its going down very quickly.
Here David Rockefellar congratulates Cheney at the CFR for forwarding the NAFTA/NAU plan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg
Keep in mind, there have been almost no cases of any terrorists prosecuted with any real evidence anywhere-even in 9/11, even in Iraq and Afghanistan,
except the cases of terrorism as torture of US prisoners and US black operations conducting targeted assassinations, false flag attacks and bioterror
such as Anthrax which admittedly came from Government offices.
Reminder, this isn't liberal vs conservative, it isnt about young vs old or men against women. Its about seeing your community as your local team and
your neighbor as someone you need to work with and and depend on. Get involved locally, be self-sufficient and do not play into this attack on the USA
and our tradition of lawful behavior. Be peaceful. |
nu-kid,
love your conspiracy theory. the world is full of conspiracies, we will never know how many or their details, but sure is useful to theorize 
btw, the sheeple on this forum are about to tell you you are fruit loops 
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Bajahowodd
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Not me. But I know what you're saying, goat.
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gnukid
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You mean a conspiracy like a conspiracy to kill president Lincoln? or a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy and cover-up the investigation? A
conspiracy to overthrow the Gov of Iran as Obama just admitted the US government was responsible for in 1953?
Or maybe a conspiracy to fund Hitler as Prescott Bush was prosecuted and guilty of a felony for? Or A conspiracy to assassinate Reagan? Or a
conspiracy to fund both sides of the civil war by the King of England or.... how about a conspiracy to lie to the American people and falsify a threat
from Iraq to justify an invasion? Perhaps a conspiracy to suggest a connection between 9/11 and Saddam, or claim he planned to use WMD and he had
uranium from Niger and then discredit anyone including CIA agents who had evidence otherwise like Valerie Plame and her husband Joe Wilson an
ambassador and former CIA. Even if meant some conspirators would go to jail namely Scooter Libby.
If you see a pattern here you win a prize.
Wow, how can it be I can name a list of government conspiracies to cause vast harm and these are in the public consciousness without even blinking,
it's well documented yet there are vast deniers of common sense discourse? And gosh oh golly it could never happen again, could it?
Perhaps the real enemy is not your neighbor, the possible terrorist, but instead those that would seek to discredit the truth?
Aha!
[Edited on 6-8-2009 by gnukid]
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gnukid
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FYI as you know I didn't make up the theory I reported, nor did I make up the short list of conspiracies. These are documented and are fairly well
known and obvious at this point.
I am actually just a peaceful kid who likes to read. So if you have any better ideas, and you can back it up, let it rip. I am all ears.
Funny How I always link to the facts and its always backed up? And the others who attack me have nothing but insults and no facts. Weird or
coincidence?
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
btw, the sheeple on this forum are about to tell you you are fruit loops
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Nah. Boo Berry.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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Cypress
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Land of the free, only if you don't pay taxes.
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gnukid
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Think of the world like Hogan's heros or any other tv show. There is a plot line, its not just a big accident, there are many people pulling strings,
many tricks and in the end things are not at all how they seem. The point is, the unreasonable behavior exhibited is not happening by accident. The
replies from the peanut gallery are not happening by accident.
Yes Virginia, they are sheeple, they do follow simple plots lines, yes the sheepl do suspend reasonable disbelief and they do imagine a simple world.
The truth is the USA has the most vast government and military in the world. Our military and its budget is more vast than all militaries combined.
The black operations budget alone is so huge it would boggle your mind. Everyday the actions are described and reported but most prefer to ignore it.
Did you hear Cheney said recently the USA has already developed bioweapons technology to target people by race, plants and animals by DNA and now they
insist on taking your DNA (in order to map) and Obama says soon will be a series of mandatory vaccinations??? The WHO is expected to declare level 6
emergency in coming days?
Ding ding ding helllo WE NEED SKEET, help.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/artic...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=96...
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
You mean a conspiracy like a conspiracy to kill president Lincoln? or a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy and cover-up the investigation? A
conspiracy to overthrow the Gov of Iran as Obama just admitted the US government was responsible for in 1953?
Or maybe a conspiracy to fund Hitler as Prescott Bush was prosecuted and guilty of a felony for? Or A conspiracy to assassinate Reagan? Or a
conspiracy to fund both sides of the civil war by the King of England or.... how about a conspiracy to lie to the American people and falsify a threat
from Iraq to justify an invasion? Perhaps a conspiracy to suggest a connection between 9/11 and Saddam, or claim he planned to use WMD and he had
uranium from Niger and then discredit anyone including CIA agents who had evidence otherwise like Valerie Plame and her husband Joe Wilson an
ambassador and former CIA. Even if meant some conspirators would go to jail namely Scooter Libby.
If you see a pattern here you win a prize.
Wow, how can it be I can name a list of government conspiracies to cause vast harm and these are in the public consciousness without even blinking,
it's well documented yet there are vast deniers of common sense discourse? And gosh oh golly it could never happen again, could it?
Perhaps the real enemy is not your neighbor, the possible terrorist, but instead those that would seek to discredit the truth?
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i wasn't criticizing your theory.
our government is not a democracy, the government is run by puppet masters for the benefit of puppet masters.
jury has convicted bush. jury is still out on obamma.
yes we can!
yes we can be fooled again!
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capt. mike
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skeet!!!!!! go to AVWeb and listen
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Lancdiver:
Please explain "The brutal shakedown", I did not see or hear any evidence of this.
Do you have other evidence of Brutality??
Thank you
Skeet/Loreto |
to the taped interview with the pilot - he is most credible.
after the 8 minute interview my blood was .....well hot!
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
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Wow. The audio interview was pretty scary.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
i wasn't criticizing your theory.
our government is not a democracy, the government is run by puppet masters for the benefit of puppet masters.
jury has convicted bush. jury is still out on obamma.
yes we can!
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CFR theoretical planning documents are public.
http://www.cfr.org/issue/23/global_governance.html
Here's Michael Hayden Deputy Dir. National Intelligence declares there is no requirement for probable cause for suspicion in search and seizure
contrary to the 4th amendment to the constitution?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGhcECnWRGM&feature=relat...
[Edited on 6-9-2009 by gnukid]
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