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Remember the three teenagers deported?
The ones grabbed by ICE at the trolly station? Today they let them back into the US on "humanitarian" grounds.
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DENNIS
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I don't recall the story. On what humanitarian grounds were they admitted?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I don't recall the story. On what humanitarian grounds were they admitted? |
There's an article in todays SDUT on it. The humanitarian grounds were to reunite then with their illegal immigrant parents and let them go to court
and argue their immigration case. The article also clarifies that ICE asked them if they had anybody legal in the US who they could be released to so
they would not be immediately deported, but the kids wouldn't identify anybody, especially not their illegal parents.
That's why the were deported, and not given a court date.
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I know what it's like to have mixed status families. very hard oneveryone. But the parents could have returned to Mexico to be reunited with their
children and the whole family could ask for asylum or whatever together. It is alwasy hard with families- and children in school is good (so long as
they are legally entitiled to be there)
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The parents should have been deported also, that way they would be together as one big happy family living in TJ, where they should be.
And California wonders why the system is broke!
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
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We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
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Much of the time, stories such as these are quite a bit deeper than originally reported.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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I agree with legal immigration into the United States. All I can say is, California is getting what is deserves.... Thank god I do not live there
anymore.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by drzura
I agree with legal immigration into the United States. All I can say is, California is getting what is deserves.... Thank god I do not live there
anymore. |
I think CA gets their share of illegal immigrants andassociated problems, but there are illegal immigrants everywhere. A lot of people in the USA
who have never been around anyone other than white are having a lot harder time than californians dealing with immigration.
Vancouver has it's chinese influx, the mid-west had the Hmong, it all takes some getting used to for some. Some never get used to it. Many resent
being a minority now. But California has always been so mixed up (in many ways)- it gave them a social cushion.
I hope changes are made for the right reasons- not because money is tight. JMHO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajajack
And California wonders why the system is broke! |
| Quote: | Originally posted by drzura
All I can say is, California is getting what is deserves.... |
I assume we are all aware that "California" has no say whatsoever in how federal immigration laws are enforced or interpreted. That is purely a
federal law enforcement issue.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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I am sorry to say that California is so screwed up with their priorities. The state will be insolvent in about 30 days if they cannot cut 24 billion
dollars from their budget. Like I said, they get what they deserve, and what I mean by that is; the people that keep voting these a-- holes back into
office. And, yes Calfornia does have a say, they can place the national guard along the border..
[Edited on 6-18-2009 by drzura]
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This is good news for California.
The action by DHS to detain and deport was illegal. Just like we said. Done.
Due process was denied. The kids were under no reasonable cause for suspicion, not guilty of crimes, so they could not be processed and deported in
the manner so abruptly without due process. What a waste of resources and poor training for the new DHS guys who were ordered to take actions that
day. It was a bad example and heads should roll.
Interesting and great news for California to get on track with lawful border protection. Let's put the policing resources where the belong, street
crossing guards, helping old ladies, being good guys, assisting with lost dogs and cats and regular stuff that we need not this wasteful nonsense.
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If you're in the country illegally you've already committed a crime.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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yeah probably true, but the point is cops can't just grab anyone off the street and arrest them without charging them with an actionable offense, a
crime, first, then after they get prosecuted and they are guilty then you can deport them. Its some silly law or concept called habeus corpus,
something silly like a US constitution er some darn thing the American people got in dem laws the cops swore to uphold and whatnot, junior.
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gnukid
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Cops broke the law - "the kids are alright" The Who
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gnukid....I like you better everyday....
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be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
yeah probably true, but the point is cops can't just grab anyone off the street and arrest them without charging them with an actionable offense, a
crime, first, then after they get prosecuted and they are guilty then you can deport them. Its some silly law or concept called habeus corpus,
something silly like a US constitution er some darn thing the American people got in dem laws the cops swore to uphold and whatnot, junior.
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... does Homeland Security have to play by those rules too? I thought unbridled freedom ended with 911. I think they have a freer hand this close to
the border. Not sure if everyone is on the same page or the same book even.
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I'd like to see due process for aspiring immigrants ..............the process laid down for becoming a legal immigrant.
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My memory is a little faded. But wasn't it Reagan who oversaw the last amnesty program? Wasn't it for some reasons among many, that we needed the
cheap, dependable labor? Wasn't it also about the century-old cross-border co-mingling in the Southwest? Seems to me that this issue was never really
on the national stage until the cost of living became so high in SOCAL, among others, that the folks started migrating to Des Moines, Memphis, and
Raleigh, where they were clearly not a part of the local culture.
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Interesting you say that about inward migration being caused by the high cost of living in the souwest. That's the push. I have a sister-in-law who
plucks chickens in Des Moines. The word gets out when the big employers become easy employers for illegals and they go there. That's the pull.
That's how my sister ended up in a place she can't pronounce- having been bumped from her job in Witch-Cheetah (Wichita).
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