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arrowhead
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Mayor of Rosarito plays the blame game
http://afntijuana.info/blog/?p=11968
Hugo Torres fired off a letter to Mexican Secretary of Tourism, Rodolfo Elizondo Torres, and sent copies to President Calderon, Governor Millan and
the Baja secretary of tourism. He said Rosarito has lost 90% of tis tourist traffic and there are more than 3,500 unsold condominiums.
He blames the entire problem on a negative campaign by the American press against Rosarito.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
He blames the entire problem on a negative campaign by the American press against Rosarito. |
He could be right and I hope the US press has that much clout but, that doesn't mean the US press is wrong. I think Rosarito has earned all of it's
reputation.
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Too Bad - So Sad
That's Life.
Completely Corrupt Police Force.
Drug Gang Shootouts in the streets.
Somebody else at fault for reporting.
Right.
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The truth hurts, sometimes
Richard on the Hill
*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Duh!
The mayor is correct. The American press is the reason why there are no tourists in Rosarito. If Americans didn't read/hear about all
the corruption and drug related crime...
They would be here. 
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Is the Mayor correct? Is the U.S. Press to blame for reporting what is happening in Rosarito and T.J., thereby scaring away the tourists? Yes, it is a
contributing factor. Is that wrong? No! People need to be armed with information in order to make correct decisions for themselves and their families.
Personally, I think that the press has an obligation to report the truth. Some have opined that the press has a vendetta or agenda against Mexico.
Well, it is true, "if it bleeds it leads". But as far as I can tell, it is really bleeding there.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Is the Mayor correct? Is the U.S. Press to blame for reporting what is happening in Rosarito and T.J., thereby scaring away the tourists? Yes, it is a
contributing factor. Is that wrong? No! People need to be armed with information in order to make correct decisions for themselves and their families.
Personally, I think that the press has an obligation to report the truth. Some have opined that the press has a vendetta or agenda against Mexico.
Well, it is true, "if it bleeds it leads". But as far as I can tell, it is really bleeding there. |
nice one. You need information to make decisions. Last year I wouldn't let my friends come down with their children. I didn't want the burden of
responsibility for them (this was during the toll road carjackings). Since then things have gotten a lot safer and random acts of violence are down.
Targeted acts of violence against specific victims is way up though- but rarely are the victims American.
What Torres fails to say is that Rosarito Beach never made itself very easy to love. The police never got their act together and security is very
important for tourists. Plus you have to run the gauntlet through TJ to get here- which is a horrible driving experince at best for most tourists.
On what basis does he ask the USA to declare the TJ-Rosarito Beach corridor is safe?
... isn't there an election a few weeks away? Looks like Torres friends needed some pumping so he did some huffing.
Those two factors plus no one has money to spend stateside rightnow is the perfect storm for tourist dollars taking a deep dive. And so close to the
Titantic too...
I wish my house here had increased in value. I wish the workers would finish the three buildings around me. I wish the gazillion "For Rent" signs on
houses and condos would find tenants who make the neighborhoods safer. But that's all five years away at least IMHO. Rosarito will float when the
other boats do.
I still say the best thing for Rosarito wouldbe a western border crossing in Playas de Tijuana- bypassing TJ completely.
[Edited on 6-28-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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From sublime to ridiculous
Ok, follow this. On the same day that Mayor Torres of Rosarito fired off his letter complaining about the American press having a vendetta for
Rosarito, this event occured -- which by the way is NOT reported in the US newspapers -- at least not yet.
The news article says that at 5PM Friday afternoon, three 15-passenger vans full of tourists pulled up and parked in front of the Mayor's Rosarito
Beach Hotel and went inside to shop. They parked in the "secure zone" for tourists that the police chief has identified. When they came out of the
hotel, two of the vans were broken into and the ignition switches jimmied!
| Quote: | INTENTAN ROBAR DOS UNIDADES A TURISTAS
PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.
Es muy raro ver turistas y cuando hay los ladrones no pierden su tiempo así paso ayer por la tarde al filo de las 5:00 horas cuando llegaron tres
camionetas tipo Van Pool Ford E 350 de color blanco con capacidad para 15 pasajeros modelo 2008.
Exactamente frente al Hotel Rosarito donde comienza la “zona blindada” donde señalo en secretario de seguridad publica, sin embargo pegaron los
ladrones en los intereses del propio alcalde y en su principal factor para reactivar la economía en Rosarito.
Los turistas venían de Arizona y decidieron visitar las tiendas del Hotel Rosarito cuando salieron se llevaron una sorpresa, los ladrones de autos
habían violado los seguros de las puertas, y el encendido de los volantes de las dos unidades con placas de circulación son 6CVW700 Y 6CPR899 del
estado de California.
Indico el señor Gustafson Richard John de 59 años residente de California sin precisar la ciudad por lo que decidieron retirarse de Rosarito no sin
antes presentarse ante las autoridades pertinentes y hacer su reporte de robo preciso Richard John.
http://rosaritoenlanoticia.blogspot.com/2009/06/intentan-rob... |
[Edited on 6-28-2009 by arrowhead]
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Its not Rosarito, its all of northern baja, an yes, mayor torres has done a good job at cleaning up the police force, but its going to take a lot of
time to get the confidence back. The US media has hyped this way beyond reality, but this wouldnt have happened if the local and state goverment, had
done their job.
Everybody is to blame and there is no quick fixes.
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We've had our truck broken into twice in Baja. Both times in Rosarito, nine years apart. Dealing with the police was worse than the actual theft.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Its not Rosarito, its all of northern baja, an yes, mayor torres has done a good job at cleaning up the police force, but its going to take a lot of
time to get the confidence back. The US media has hyped this way beyond reality, but this wouldnt have happened if the local and state goverment, had
done their job.
Everybody is to blame and there is no quick fixes. |
Living here, I can honestly say there was no overhype by the media. Rosarito went through a horrible horrible period. I had a neighbor gunned down
by an AK47 infront of me and the headless body of a policean was found not far from my house. Many distressing crimes and events were left alone by
the media specifically because Americans weren't involved. It certainly could have been worse in my opinion. Does Rosarito deserve a break now that
things have calmed down. Yes. But that doesn't make past truths a lie.
Mexicans are so self centered that everything that happens must be about or against them. Everything is caused by someone else and Mexico plays the
perpetual victim. Iran just tried this approach- but it didn't work because you can't censor the news or the truth any more. It gets out- with
video. And it won't work for Torres either. He needs to change his game, take his lumps and wait it out.
(I still haven't met a Rosarito Tourist Policeman who willingly speaks english, or bumped into any of the hundreds of security voluntees that were
deputized)
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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How typical it is of Mexicans to place the blame for their problems on any and every place except where it belongs. The refusal to grow up and take
personal responsibility for their problems is built into the DNA of the Mexican culture and is the primary reason the country is and always will be
dysfunctional and second-rate.
In fairness, I should add that we have this same element in the USA, those who in a total departure from reality deny the eistence of global warming
and the potentially devastating effects of budget deficits. Cheney's statement that "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter," is exactly the kind
of insanity I'm talking about.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajazz
How typical it is of Mexicans to place the blame for their problems on any and every place except where it belongs. The refusal to grow up and take
personal responsibility for their problems is built into the DNA of the Mexican culture and is the primary reason the country is and always will be
dysfunctional and second-rate.
In fairness, I should add that we have this same element in the USA, those who in a total departure from reality deny the eistence of global warming
and the potentially devastating effects of budget deficits. Cheney's statement that "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter," is exactly the kind
of insanity I'm talking about. |
Exactly. The Union Trib reports on today's front page that San Diego's drop in hotel revenue (31%) is the 2nd-worst in the whole USA. How could Baja
Norte expect a better result?
San Diego could just as easily blame Baja Norte for it's tragic tourist decline. I guess the swine flu boy statue and the "narco tours" kept people
away from San Diego too.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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It's only fair to say that the Mexican readers of that article seem to disagree with the Mayor. Out of 12 reader comments below the article as of
now, 12 disagree with the mayor for blaming the American press for Rosarito's problems.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
The mayor is correct. The American press is the reason why there are no tourists in Rosarito. If Americans didn't read/hear about all
the corruption and drug related crime...
They would be here. |
   
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In fairness, I should add that we have this same element in the USA, those who in a total departure from reality deny the eistence of global warming
and the potentially devastating effects of budget deficits.
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that same element includes +/- 50 million first generation mexicans along with the entire legislature of the state of mexifornia, led by a steriod
pumping governator.
the shi-ite is nearing the fan.....
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In an interview done by El Mexicano newspaper, this month, Ronald Kramer, head of the US Consulate in Tijuana, said that some coverage of Mexico's war
against drug cartels had falsely created the impression in the US that the area is unsafe for visitors.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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In his letter, Torres specifically asks the US Gov't to reverse it's travel warnings for this area. If the warnings weren't current or official,
Torres woldn't be pressing for it. The Media accurately reported what the state department position is and Torres felt that media coverage was
unfair. Tough cookies, move on.
If TJ want to be a good neighbor and get really good press- it could step up and help stop the tragedy of teen drunk driving by raising the drinking
age in the tourist zone (TJ and Rosarito) to 21.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajazz
How typical it is of Mexicans to place the blame for their problems on any and every place except where it belongs. The refusal to grow up and take
personal responsibility for their problems is built into the DNA of the Mexican culture and is the primary reason the country is and always will be
dysfunctional and second-rate.
In fairness, I should add that we have this same element in the USA, those who in a total departure from reality deny the eistence of global warming
and the potentially devastating effects of budget deficits. Cheney's statement that "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter," is exactly the kind
of insanity I'm talking about. |
No, its not typical, and i feel offended by your comment. This has nothing to do with DNA and all to do with culture and history. Let me remind you,
that ALL cultures, including your own, lived and acted at one time or another, in very poor ways according to todays standars. Cultures change, just
like people change, and just like a bunch of barbarian tribes developed into what we now call Germany, Mexican and all other cultures will develop
into something totally new in the future.
Back to the topic. You are also wrong. Most Mexicans know very well that authorities are to blame for this, not any media. Wich makes your comment
about typical Mexican thinking wrong again. Has the american media hyped things? Off course it has, but not because of something to do with Mexicans,
but because the american media is currently going tru a period of sensationalism, where anything, real or not, important or not, is way overhyped if
it means biggers ratings.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
In his letter, Torres specifically asks the US Gov't to reverse it's travel warnings for this area. If the warnings weren't current or official,
Torres woldn't be pressing for it. The Media accurately reported what the state department position is and Torres felt that media coverage was
unfair. Tough cookies, move on.
If TJ want to be a good neighbor and get really good press- it could step up and help stop the tragedy of teen drunk driving by raising the drinking
age in the tourist zone (TJ and Rosarito) to 21. |
Torres is trying to protect his investments, but he is also wrong. The area still needs a lot of cleanup, and he has to understand that it took years
to get into this, and it will take way more than the elimination of a travel warning to get things back on track.
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