ArroyoTaxi
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Looks like an El Nino summer
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090709/ap_on_sc/us_sci_el_nino
Does anyone know when the last one was and how it effected Baja?
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bajajudy
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http://www.awitness.org/journal/el_nino.html
And then there is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Pacific_hurricane_season
Marty ripped the palapa off of our second floor and Ignacio totally flooded the arroyo and the old soccer fields(where the marina is now)
I am not particularly happy with this news although there are apparently 2 el ninos and they dont know which this is. I will be hoping for the
central Pacific variety....sorry folks on the Atlantic side!
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Sharksbaja
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Isn't La Nina the force that was steering the hurricanes thru Mulege the last few years? I noticed the last tropical depression(last month) moved out
to sea rather than turn inland over Baja.
So the currents will now push the storms across the cape and out into the Pacific? I see your concern Judy. Strange and scary indeed and confusing.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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bajasammy
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El Nino usually means warmer water here in the OC, and that hasn't happened yet (still more like winter temps right now - upper 50's)...
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CaboRon
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An El Nino Year Comming
El Nino conditions return to affect weather
By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer Posted Thu Jul 9, 2009 8:24am PDT
Government scientists said Thursday that the periodic warming of water in the tropical Pacific Ocean, which can affect weather around the world, has
returned.
The Pacific had been in what is called a neutral state, but forecasters at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration say the sea surface
temperature climbed to 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit above normal along a narrow band in the eastern equatorial Pacific in June.
In addition, NOAA's Climate Prediction Center said temperatures in other tropical regions are also above normal, with warmer than usual readings as
much as 975 feet below the ocean surface.
In general, El Nino conditions are associated with increased rainfall across the east-central and eastern Pacific and with drier than normal
conditions over northern Australia, Indonesia and the Philippines.
A summer El Nino can lead to wetter than normal conditions in the intermountain regions of the United States and over central Chile. In an El Nino
year there tend to be more Eastern Pacific hurricanes and fewer Atlantic hurricanes.
The forecasters said they expect this El Nino to continue strengthening over the next few months and to last through the winter of 2009-2010.
"Advanced climate science allows us to alert industries, governments and emergency managers about the weather conditions El Nino may bring so these
can be factored into decision-making and ultimately protect life, property and the economy," NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco said in a statement.
NOAA officials noted that not all El Nino effects are negative. For example, it can suppress Atlantic hurricanes and bring needed moisture to the arid
Southwest.
But it can also steer damaging winter storms to California and increase storminess across the southern United States.
The warming of the ocean can also lead to a reduction in the seafood catch off the West Coast, and fewer fish can also impact food sources for several
types of birds and marine mammals.
A recent study by researchers at Georgia Tech suggests there may actually be two forms of El Nino, depending on whether the warming is stronger in the
eastern or central pacific.
While the current warming seems to be strongest in the east, the more traditional form, government forecasters did not categorize it.
If the Georgia Tech study is correct, this would be the type of El Nino that reduces hurricanes in the Atlantic and Caribbean. The other form,
centered farther west, reportedly seems to promote Atlantic storms.
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woody with a view
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Quote: |
The forecasters said they expect this El Nino to continue strengthening over the next few months and to last through the winter of 2009-2010.
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then this winter should be good! heck, last winter was the worst in recent memory as far as storms sending groundswell to the west coast.....
prayforsurf!
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805gregg
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Good, Maybe I can sell some roofs.
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by Don Jorge
Bring it on, we need the rain in Baja and in California ! |
Absolutely---would help the drought conditions in San Diego, and bring out the wildflowers in Bahia Asuncion, but I sure hope it doesn't come all at
once.
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shari
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My vote is for "Please DONT bring it on". Although i am pleased as punch that the ocean has warmed up a whole month early here making our daily swims
much more enjoyable (and has brought back the feeling in my numb ankles)....PERO and it is a big PERO...but....el Niņo wreaks havoc to the fisheries
here.
The biggest cause for concern is that it kills off the abalone which basically supports the villages in this part of the mid coast. Algae blooms are
more prevalent as well killing off fish. While wild flowers are gorgeous and smell divine...they aren't very nutricious. The lobster fishery had a
terrible year and so the town's survival depends on the abalone. This year's quota is nearly met which will get the fisher families through another
season....but if the abalone are killed off...next year will be dismal indeed.
it looks like the warmer water will make for outstanding sportsfishery this summer...we were told there will be not only YT, dorado and tuna...but
wahoo and marliln too...geezo!
Also more hurricaine activity and heavy rain on this coast would be disturbing...particularly for the many many residents who dont have decent roofs.
Not to mention that our lovely new paved highway is bound to be washed out again.
I had a dream this morning that a hurricaine was rolling up our way and everyone was scrambling to get plywood to put over their windows and the town
was sold out... panic.
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by shari
While wild flowers are gorgeous and smell divine...they aren't very nutricious.
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Gosh, I thought the wildflowers could be cooked up and marketed.
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