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BajaGeoff
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Do you know how much it costs and the duration of the time the visa is good for?
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redmesa
Mexicans are now required to have a tourist visa to enter Canada. Canada's open border to our Mexican neighbours has always pleased me so it is with
regret that I am passing along this news. |
I read a quick headline about that, but not the details. How, where and how difficult will it be?
I read that it was about concern over immigration???
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Diane
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DENNIS
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Does Canada have a fence? Maybe Canada needs a fence.
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CaboRon
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Concern Over Illegal Immigration
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redmesa
Mexicans are now required to have a tourist visa to enter Canada. Canada's open border to our Mexican neighbours has always pleased me so it is with
regret that I am passing along this news. |
I read a quick headline about that, but not the details. How, where and how difficult will it be?
I read that it was about concern over immigration???
Thanks
Diane |
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shari
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that truly sucks...it was so nice for friends and family to just show up and be welcomed by canadian customs...crap.
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arrowhead
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If you read the Canadian newspapers about this, you will learn that the reason for the change is the 10,000 or so Mexican "toruists" per year who are
applying for asylum in Canada. So it is not just the visa and the fee that is going to cut down visits by Mexicans to Canada.
Now the Mexicans are going to have to pass the same smell test at the Canadian embassy in Mexico as they do at the American embassy for a visa. This
will probably cut tourism to Canada from Mexico way down.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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DENNIS
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Maybe someone can enlighten me as I really don't know how it works at the US/Canada border. I've never been there.
Is the issue today Mexicans flying or boating in or is it Mexicans crossing from the US or is it all of the above?
What was required for Mexican land crossers prior to this new rule?
What is required for US land crossers today?
Are Mexicans being more inconvenienced than US tourists?
Is it the same?
Tell me, please.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
the reason for the change is the 10,000 or so Mexican "toruists" per year who are applying for asylum in Canada. |
I have to assume these desperate folks are "Sin Papeles" and Canada wants to end their "God-Given right" to migrate at the US/Canada border.
Is this correct?
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I have to assume these desperate folks are "Sin Papeles" and Canada wants to end their "God-Given right" to migrate at the US/Canada border.
Is this correct? |
Nope. Mexicans with a passport can fly direct from Mexico to Canada without a visa -- well at least they could before. To travel by land through the
US they also had to get a US visa.
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flyfishinPam
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redmesa
Mexicans are now required to have a tourist visa to enter Canada. Canada's open border to our Mexican neighbours has always pleased me so it is with
regret that I am passing along this news. |
huh? why are you regretful? Mexico has always required a tourist visa for foreign visitors Canadians included, our borders are not open so now we're
even.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Mexicans with a passport can fly direct from Mexico to Canada without a visa -- well at least they could before. To travel by land through the US
they also had to get a US visa. |
OK...What's the problem? Isn't the stamp in the passport the visa? Am I to understand they need a seperate document to accompany a passport to enter
Canada and the US?
It makes no sense.
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jorgie
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prior to this Mexicans entering Canada as tourists did not need a visa for a period tourist visit of six months . These folks were not seeking to stay
in Canada . Asylum is what many Mexicans are seeking , citizenship .
Canadians are not required to have a visa for tourist travel in Mexico for a period not to exceed six months . [ Mexican embassy Ottawa ]
American do not need a visa to enter Canada but are now required to carry a valid passport or the new inhanced boarder pass . Canadians must carry the
same to enter the U.S.A There is no limit on time for Americans or Canadians . Czechs also now need a visa to enter Canada .
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Now the Mexicans are going to have to pass the same smell test at the Canadian embassy in Mexico as they do at the American embassy for a visa. This
will probably cut tourism to Canada from Mexico way down. |
Just as I predicted:
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Caos en embajada de Canadá
En la embajada de Canadá en México persiste desconcierto y caos ante la gran cantidad de personas que buscan obtener una visa, tras el anuncio del
Gobierno de ese país que establece este requisito para los mexicanos que pretendan viajar a ese punto de Norteamérica.
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The article says there is caos and bewilderment at the Canadian Embassy in Mexico as a large number of people seek visas to enter Canada after the
announcement by the Canadian government of the need for Mexicans to first obtain a visa to travel to Canada.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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DENNIS
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By coincidence, my neighbor was at the Canada consulate in Los Angeles just yesterday. He said the place was crowded, which it probably always is
and the predominant nationality present to get assistance was Chinese. From the looks of things, rice commodities would be worth looking into on the
Canadian market.
Oh yeah....you folks up there had better lock up your sled dogs.
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JESSE
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This is not new, Canada has required you show proof that you will go back to Mexico, and show you have money to provide for yourself for a long time.
If you didn't have any, you usually would be denied entrance and sent back.
This only makes it easier for travelers and authorities, they can take care of this screening process before, and not right at the port of entry.
Too bad for those that had other reasons to enter Canada.
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shari
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when Juan went to canada, at the airport immigration they just asked to see his return ticket and bing bang bong...welcome to canada!
Forget about going now as he would have to make an appointment, go to a canadian embassy (which would cost alot), pay alot for the appointment so the
cost would triple for a trip which would already be costly for us....dang.
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norte
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Maybe Mexico aught to start requiring the same paper work... and start deporting the many individuals living there illegally. We in the US have
no problem requiring it.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Maybe Mexico aught to start requiring the same paper work... and start deporting the many individuals living there illegally. We in the US have
no problem requiring it. |
Please tell me you're kidding. The US only requires proper paperwork from those Mexicans who go to the office. All others, and there are quite a
few, get along well without it and, in fact, the way things are looking, will have proper paperwork awarded to them.
Let's try to see the whole picture while we're looking at it.
I agree with your idea that Mexico should enforce their laws. Unfortunately, if Mexico starts enforceing laws, the US may have to respond in kind.
No No No....we can't have that, can we.
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norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Maybe Mexico aught to start requiring the same paper work... and start deporting the many individuals living there illegally. We in the US have
no problem requiring it. |
Please tell me you're kidding. The US only requires proper paperwork from those Mexicans who go to the office. All others, and there are quite a
few, get along well without it and, in fact, the way things are looking, will have proper paperwork awarded to them.
Let's try to see the whole picture while we're looking at it.
I agree with your idea that Mexico should enforce their laws. Unfortunately, if Mexico starts enforceing laws, the US may have to respond in kind.
No No No....we can't have that, can we. |
Just pointing out how things go both ways. Personally, I would love it if things were enforced on both sides.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
Just pointing out how things go both ways. Personally, I would love it if things were enforced on both sides. |
I guess it's safe to assume you're not a landscapeing or cement contractor. 
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