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bajajudy
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The perfect NOT
some of you will appreciate this I believe
EDITED FOR OBVIOUS REASONS
[Edited on 7-20-2009 by bajajudy]
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a work of art!
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Neat as a pin.
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While this cleat hitch looks good, it is not tied correctly and can come loose. The line should exit the opposite direction, like this:
A reference
http://www.netknots.com/html/cleat_hitch.html
[Edited on 7-20-2009 by gnukid]
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Mine is the same as yours. The entrance end goes straight out to the boat. Imagine the tension being to the right of the cleat.
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Skookum chuck all right...dontcha just love messin around on boats! I learned to tie a boat as a little girl and always enjoyed the coiling.
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I know absolutely nada about knots---
but I sure do like that photo---nice one!
Diane
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Yeah it should be fine, but it won't pass inspection. The cleat hitch is notorious for coming loose due to slack from changing tides causing the loops
to fall off. So, it should conform to the rule with ends falling exactly in the opposite direction under tension, or risk loosening.
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The problem is that the cleats are exactly as far apart as the boat is long. I have tried starting from the right and the left and they both look and
act the same. With no cleat in the middle for a spring line, that is the best we can do.
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MikeLikeBaja
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This pic that GNUKID has is the same knot I use on my tennis shoes
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The 'big boys' don't use a locking hitch.
I was taught to start at the horn that was more than a 90 degree angle. I was also taught to put a full wrap around the cleat (instead of a 3/4 wrap)
and always follow up with another full wrap at the end.
Here is another interesting website. Diane - after perusing the site you'll be the local knot expert.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Don't you love bajanomads?
We can't even agree on a knot.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
Gnu
The problem is that the cleats are exactly as far apart as the boat is long. I have tried starting from the right and the left and they both look and
act the same. With no cleat in the middle for a spring line, that is the best we can do. |
newkiddie is pretty much right about angle of line to cleat, but he is using a crappy rope type. bajajudy's braided/twisted line is probably better
tie line than newkid's sheathed type line.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
Diane - after perusing the site you'll be the local knot expert. |
That is a fun site to watch. Now just bring a boat to BA and I will secure it for you. 
Since both my sons are rock climbers, it is a good thing they did not inherit my knot tying skills.
Judy, one thing I really like about that photo is how the knot, albeit it is a disputed knot , leads down to that perfect coil. I find it really interesting to look at.
Diane
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
but he is using a crappy rope type. |
Not true.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BMG
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
but he is using a crappy rope type. |
Not true. |
who is the truth? me, if it's my opinion
i don't like tieing boats or much else with sheathed lines, as you can't see if internal component is damaged. ok for some uses, but,,.... hey, use
what 'ya want
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What happened to the method of passing a bight through the opening in the bottom of the cleat and then out around the horns of the cleat. To make
things more secure you can then put a half hitch or so around the horns.
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1. Sheathed line is more subject to abrasion than twisted line.
2. Sheathed line has a lower breaking strength than twisted line of the same diameter.
3. Colored line has a lower breaking strength than un-dyed line of the same diameter.
Therefore, presuming that Judy's and Gnukids lines are the same diameter, Judy is using the superior line to secure her boat. But I do agree with
Gnukid that Judy's knot is entering the cleat on the wrong horn.
I use only un-dyed twisted line to tie up my boat.....and let my wife tie the lines to the cleats and do the Flemish Flakes.
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"Judy's knot is entering the cleat on the wrong horn."
I agree, an advantage of having it enter on the downside cleat gives the rope handler the ability to cinch the line/apply pressure easier.
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Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
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Judy - you are really rocking the boat here with such an inflammatory photo. Please stick to flowers and bugs.
As for dock lines, http://www.neropes.com/AnchorDock.aspx - couldn't find anything regarding less strength on colored lines versus un-dyed, but their braided is
higher strength than their 3 strand in the same diameter.
[Edited on 7-20-2009 by BMG]
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