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oladulce
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Fresh out of clever titles for Fm3 questions
If my husband and I each apply for our FM3's using our bank statements as documentation of proof of income and our income meets their requirement of
at least $1000 per month per person, am I still required to apply as his "dependent" or can I apply individually?
The reason I ask is some immigration offices want to see a marriage certificate with an apostille from the secretary of state. Since the county clerks
authentification is only good for 5 yrs, we'd have to get a new marriage certificate every 5 yrs from the clerk before doing the rest of the apostille
process. All of this will be a pain in the butt while living in a BCS outpost .
If I apply for my Fm3 as an "independent" rather than a dependent spouse, maybe we won't have to go thru the marriage certificate step? Is there
another reason they want to see a marriage doc?
Thoughts? Experiences?
The Mexican consulate website in San Diego lists the marriage certif requirement for first-time FM3's (for dependent spouses anyway) but has anyone
needed one for a renewal in La paz?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oladulce
Is there another reason they want to see a marriage doc?
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Their main concern is that you're not living in sin. It's a very Catholic country, you know. 
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bajaguy
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Never had to show marriage certificate/Apostille after obtaining FM-3 (at Consulate in San Diego) and registering it for the first time (in Ensenada)
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bajabound2005
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Call the San Diego Consulate and ask. We did our first Fm3 and they never even ASKED for our marriage cert (in any language). You do it in SD and
you won't need an apostille for anything. Your renewals...different sitch. But we understand that La Paz is pretty easy going on the FM3 stuff.
[Edited on 8-7-2009 by bajabound2005]
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UnoMas
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Never been asked for a marriage license when renewing in La Paz for the last six years. I have heard that some things have changed though, especially
the renewal time with the new regime. I hope it is just a temporary thing.
[Edited on 8-7-2009 by UnoMas]
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bajaguy
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clarification....a marriage certificate proves you were married.......the license is just the "permission" to marry.....the regs require a certificate
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UnoMas
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Okay, marriage certificate. Still have never been asked for one in six years of renewing. Don't remember if We had to provide one in the original
application. Anything after lunch yesterday is just a blurrrr.....
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bigmike
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We got our FM-3 last year no marriage certificate, this year when we went to renew they asked for one but then said they did not need it as our
original had been issued to each of us individually, in another words they said we both qualified on our own and my wife was not qualifying as my
dependant.
Our experience only!!
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HaciendaCerritos
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When I got my Fm3 as a dependent of my husband, they asked for the apostiled copy of the certificate. That was 6 years ago in La Paz. Just got my Fm2
and they didn't ask for the apostile nor the certificate (and I'm still listed as a dependent of my hubby as well as owner of a corporation).
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bajajudy
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Never been asked for marriage license for either FM3 or our current FM2. I am also a dependent. In the 60's I would have balked at that. Now I just
smile a wifey smile.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajajudy
Never been asked for marriage license for either FM3 or our current FM2. I am also a dependent. In the 60's I would have balked at that. Now I just
smile a wifey smile. |
Yeah Judy,
but like my better half, you may be the dependent but you rule the roost.
And yes, in the 80's we had to show the apostiled marriage certificate. The process in those days was quite tedious/involved ,to say the least
[Edited on 8-7-2009 by vandenberg]
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larryC
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My wife and I are going in on Monday to get our fm3 at the San Diego consulate, on their web page they say that a marriage certificate is required and
also list the minimum age as 55. Never heard of an age requirement before. Unfortunately I will have no problem fulfilling that requirement.
Larry
Here is a link to the page for the age requirement
http://consulmexsd.org/doc/non-mexican/fm3.htm
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TBcountry
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My wife and I just got our FM3 in the past few months. We did have to show, heck not show, they kept it, a Certified Marriage Certificate. It also
had to be translated into Spanish. We hired a Mexican attorney who speaks very good English and she took all necessary information, translated and
whatever else needed to be done, then met us at Consulate in Rosarito to sign all the papers. It really went pretty smooth. Getting the Certified
Marriage Certificate was fairly easy ( I did order 2 though) as I did it on-line and had it within a week or so.
Tom
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SDRonni
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We got our FM-3 at the Consulate in San Diego. We did have to have a certified copy of our marriage license. When trying to register in Rosarito,
were told we needed the apostile. We were told the license and the apostile will both need to be translated into Spanish. Were also told, though, by
Immigration in Rosarito that we need to register w/in 30 days. Our attorney checked, and the FM-3 that was issued in San Diego is good for one year,
no need to register in Rosarito until renewal time. Conflicting and confusing info..............
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oladulce
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Thank you all for the info. It wouldn't hurt, so I've ordered a couple of extra marriage certificates to keep handy. But I will try to register myself
as an independent spouse.
After some expert advice, rather than providing 6 months of bank statements that may float around a Mex govt office, I'll get a letter from our bank
to confirm the proof of income requirement.
Does the bank letter need to be in Spanish for the initial step at the consulate in San Diego? If english is ok in San Diego, will La paz want to see
the proof of income bank letter in spanish (and apostilled) when we register the FM3's there for the first time like Rosarito does?
I don't get home from work in time to call the SD consulate office when they're open so thanks for the help with the details.
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grace59
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We applied for and received our FM3s in San Felipe. No marriage certificate was required there....only proof of a residence, bank deposit, passports,
FMT...we used a FM3 agent right in town who walked us through the entire process...it was painless, but took a while...we applied in April and did not
get FM3s until July....which means we will have to go down to renew in the heat of the summer
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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SDRonni
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At the Mexican Consulate office in San Diego, we did have to show bank statements. But we applied for the FM-3 one day and picked it up the next.
Very easy process.
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fishingmako
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A letter from a bank for proof will not work, you must have the original bank statements, no downloaded copies, they have to be original and you only
need 3 not 6, and they have to be translated from English to Spanish in Mexico, come on now the money has to stay local, also remember when going to a
consulate you still have to register them at the local immigration office area you are living, this has been said again and again, I personaly would
not attempt this on my own, the paper work will never ever be correct believe me, get a pro to handle it it makes for smooth sailing, just a warning,
ask others whom have been ther done that.
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oladulce
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Ok, we're back to the bank statements. I should get us through the SD consulate stage for now. I'll try to be prepared, but will be (more) neurotic if
I expect to have everything they'll want for the La paz registration later on.
Woohoo, now to start on the Menaje and organizing the importation truck load.
Oh yeah, and listing our CA house...
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bajaguy
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Get an Agent
It is well worth it
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