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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 09:05 PM
Is $$ or fear keeping you home?


I often read about how cheap it is to visit Baja. I have made numerous trips to the East Cape to fish.

Upcoming trip -
Alaska Air Los Angeles to SJD is $550 RT.

Airport transportation from Airport to East Cape is approx $100 each way for 3 persons.

Deluxe ocean front room with 3 meals daily is $250 per night double occupancy.

Fishing cruiser is about $500 per day with tip and bait included.

So our cost for 3 persons staying 3 nights, fishing 2 days is around $3,600 or $1,200 per person.

I am certainly not complaining, I love everything about doing these trips. With the bad economy, I have made far fewer trips.

I have also made several road trips, and the cost for me averages $100-150 per day. This includes lodging, some camping, meals and gas.

Places I have stayed in Baja have not reduced prices during this economic downturn. So, it just means fewer trips.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2009 at 09:47 PM


we're all still working for the perfect lifestyle.

{if ya got the money, ya ain't got the time...if ya got the time, ya ain't got the money." } Not always true for everyone, but, it does go a long ways for most people.

We got the time, got the money, but ain't willing to part with the money until we know what's going on in our "self-employed" future.

We're sitting tight for a while.


ps- we're sitting tight because of my conservative (glass 3/4 emptly) hubby.
ME?!? I'd be there right now.......tomorrow will work out, whatever....

I guess it's a good thing opposites attract!

in answer to your post, MONEY.



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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 01:46 AM


Meaning no disrespect JD, but I think you need a new travel agent!

Just paid $238 RT, Alaska Airlines, LAX-SJD. Just booked Martin Verdugo’s, ocean front, $70 including all taxes (no meals)and if I am not mistaken, the cruisers are less than $500. Verdugo's transportation was $150 RT for 2 people and I am sure that it would be less per person for 3 people.





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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 06:56 AM


We aren't going down to Baja as often as we'd like, but it isn't really due to money or fear...it's due to time. We are still stuck in that get up and go to work everyday to pay for what we want/need cycle....wait I guess that is due to MONEY! :lol:



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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 07:06 AM


Watching locals smoke crack right on the malecon in Cabo last sept. made me realize how bad drugs have invaded Baja life. I prefer to stay away from crack heads. I used to go to Baja to surf or fish, I don't surf as much and the fishing is on downhill slide ( I don't want to conrtibute to). So I'm looking around at other vacation spots, it's a big world, with lots of possibilites.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 07:49 AM


Right now it is the heat keeping me from Baja.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 08:09 AM


It is the heat. I'm a freekin' redhead. I should be living in the fog somewhere.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 08:56 AM


Neither, headin' down at the end of the month!
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 09:06 AM


Nothing is keeping us from going to Baja every six weeks, or so.

we make it three or four day weekends and it averages $65.00 per day for food, gas, and lodging. We generally splurge on 5 bottles of tequila for the weekend and take-home (about $45.00 U.S.)

If we fish and take the kayak...0 cost. Superpanga for 4 about $200.00 U.S. depending on where we launch.




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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 09:10 AM


Neither!

It's that four letter word..........work!


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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 09:32 AM


sd, it is cheap if you DRIVE to Baja... Gas is about $2.30/ gallon, food is cheap, rooms range from $23-$63 or camp!



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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 10:55 AM


Not exactly a consensus. However, one reason that hasn't appeared is the fear factor. taking a poll on Nomad won't show how many people may be avoiding Mexico because of the drug war. Because, frankly, most of us have been going down the peninsula for many years and continue to do so. To properly determine how much the fear factor is affecting the Mexican hospitality industry, one needs to poll a more general population base than Baja afficionados.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 11:38 AM


I've been going to Baja since 1960's for fishing adventures anywhere for 1-5 times per year depending on the state of the family (single, married, kids, pending retirement). The main places I've gone to are Puerto Penasco, San Felipe, LA Bay, Mulege, and Cabo. I've been a member here for quite sometime but cuz of computer glitch had to change my name recently. Here's my take on this.

I have stopped traveling to baja for the past 2 years cuz of the security issues in baja. $ has played no part in this decision, just security. The security situation seems to be getting worse not better with no improvement in sight. Therefore, I have scratched anywhere in baja off my list. In a way it's a mini-protest to the Mexican Government to get their act together but mainly it's my selfish desire to live longer than my 62 years. Many of my fellow baja travelers here in San Diego also no longer go to baja (fishing & surfing). I still fish baja but depart in my boat from San Diego Bay to fish the Coronados and other offshore locations returning to SD on the same day.

I have changed my fishing trips instead to visit locations in southeastern USA. Mobile, AL is the main area location I'm now going to. In fact I'm setting up having a retirement vacation home there instead of Mulege. I LOVE Mulege and planned on retiring there either on the river or Concepcion Bay, but do not now want to risk the gaulet of criminals, drug dealings, check points, crooked cops, etc. It is no long worth it to me. The Mobile area reminds me of the baja with the beautiful beaches, excellent fishing, friendly people and comfortable weather except summertime.

So my plans today are not to visit baja again.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 12:07 PM


What I do know is that my recent two week trip to Cabo and back was completely without incident. Even the soldiers at the check points seemed friendlier than in the past. Nastiest guy we encountered was the Customs guy at the border coming back. I'll admit that we have cut back a bit on weekend trips just because of the time wasted at the border coming back. That's it.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 12:12 PM


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.........I'll admit that we have cut back a bit on weekend trips just because of the time wasted at the border coming back. That's it.





Odd....get a SENTRI pass. Makes the return better!!!!!




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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 12:46 PM


I know. I'm just slow about such things. Not that long ago it only took 15 minutes to get through.
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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 01:23 PM


I don't think it has taken me more than 15 minutes anytime with a SENTRI..........well worth it.



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Originally posted by Lobsterman
I've been going to Baja since 1960's for fishing adventures anywhere for 1-5 times per year depending on the state of the family (single, married, kids, pending retirement). The main places I've gone to are Puerto Penasco, San Felipe, LA Bay, Mulege, and Cabo. I've been a member here for quite sometime but cuz of computer glitch had to change my name recently. Here's my take on this.

I have stopped traveling to baja for the past 2 years cuz of the security issues in baja. $ has played no part in this decision, just security. The security situation seems to be getting worse not better with no improvement in sight. Therefore, I have scratched anywhere in baja off my list. In a way it's a mini-protest to the Mexican Government to get their act together but mainly it's my selfish desire to live longer than my 62 years. Many of my fellow baja travelers here in San Diego also no longer go to baja (fishing & surfing). I still fish baja but depart in my boat from San Diego Bay to fish the Coronados and other offshore locations returning to SD on the same day.

I have changed my fishing trips instead to visit locations in southeastern USA. Mobile, AL is the main area location I'm now going to. In fact I'm setting up having a retirement vacation home there instead of Mulege. I LOVE Mulege and planned on retiring there either on the river or Concepcion Bay, but do not now want to risk the gaulet of criminals, drug dealings, check points, crooked cops, etc. It is no long worth it to me. The Mobile area reminds me of the baja with the beautiful beaches, excellent fishing, friendly people and comfortable weather except summertime.

So my plans today are not to visit baja again.



We cut back our Baja trips and visited more of the USA in 2007 and 2008... Grand Canyon, Arizona, Carlsbad Caverns, New Mexico, Idaho, Yellowstone in Wyoming... All very beautiful and great places, for sure.

There just isn't anyplace like Baja to replace Baja... and I can't stay away even if I try! Bad stuff happens pretty much everywhere... I would rather be in Baja!




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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 05:19 PM


nothing...not ANYTHING is keeping us here once it cools down a little..outta here late sept/early oct; katie bar the door!....the only thing that will stop us is a chubasco....the days are just getting too cool up here in the ol pacific NW that time of year...from october to may, baja is our home....that ain't gonna change for a long, long time...



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[*] posted on 8-13-2009 at 05:39 PM


Fear? Money? Neither factored into my decision to look to places other than Baja.:) Numero Uno, poor fishing! No sense in beating around the issue. Just telling the truth.
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