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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 09:29 AM
Another Airplane Stolen - San Quintín


Wednesday 8-19-2009 - Campo Lorenzo

http://www.elvigia.net/noticias/?seccion=elvalle&id=1959...

A four-seat Cessna was stolen from the landing strip at Campo Lorenzo near San Quintín at about 3:30 AM while its owner was participating in a fishing tournament.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 09:57 AM


It won't be the last incident like this either!! ++C++
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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 03:55 PM


I think that Cessna owner lives in Escondido.



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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 04:02 PM


Man, that hits close to home. That's not a remote site and you would think there are enough people around there to deter any aircraft theft.
Somebody has been watching the place waiting for an opportunity.




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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 04:15 PM
Power pilots in Baja? Mexicans love your planes!


They have to be the stupidest group of pilots anywhere in the world. If these do-dos can't figure out how to disable their planes before leaving them for the night, they should turn their licenses in. Oh, I get it. They're NOT Rocket Scientists.

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Man, that hits close to home. That's not a remote site and you would think there are enough people around there to deter any aircraft theft.
Somebody has been watching the place waiting for an opportunity.




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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 06:44 PM


Wow! I saw this on the paper headline in Ensenada today....yet, when I went to the El Vigia site tonight, it was no longer the headline...in fact, could not find the story! So thanks for providing the link.



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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 08:17 PM


Lee, Anytime a person screws with his airplane to disable it he is probably breaking a US federal law. The simple stuff to disable it is simple enough to fix while you steal it. Airplanes are made to run when things go wrong so it actually takes an effort to disable it surreptitiously. External stuff likes chains and locks just slow down the effort. Obviously you're not a rocket scientist either.....



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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 08:34 PM


Take off the nose gear wheel and leave it in the hotel. I'd like to see you take off with out it.
I don't believe that would violate federal law because I think you are allowed to do something like fix a flat tire.
You could always drain the oil out of the engine as an owner is allowed to change his own oil.
They might be able to take off but I doubt if they will get very far.
Ofcourse you will still lose the plane. But gain a bit of satifaction.

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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 09:30 PM


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They have to be the stupidest group of pilots anywhere in the world. If these do-dos can't figure out how to disable their planes before leaving them for the night, they should turn their licenses in. Oh, I get it. They're NOT Rocket Scientist.

How is it that a thread that is started to inform or be helpful always gets trashed by some marooon who hasn't a clue what they are talking about? Obviously something lacking here.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2009 at 09:42 PM


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Wow! I saw this on the paper headline in Ensenada today....yet, when I went to the El Vigia site tonight, it was no longer the headline...in fact, could not find the story! So thanks for providing the link.


It's still in the online El Vigía. From any page, click on El Valle on the navigation bar on the left and it's the first story.

I think they switch their website in the early AM, so by tomorrow AM, the website will reflect today's paper.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 01:57 AM


Anti theft - just read about a patent for device you would lock on to one of the blades of the prop to unbalance it.

Sounds like a simple solution. Much easier then checking into a hotel carrying your front wheel. :tumble:
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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 07:16 AM


those prop devices can be removed too.

if they want it, they get it.

this sucks.

i feel for the guy, what a burn - go for fun, help the tourism/ecomomy and get to "ride" home and lose your plane.

lots of guys are quitting going. you see it all over.




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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 07:45 AM
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I don't advise breaking any federal laws by removing airplane parts for security purposes. On the other hand, if a US plane is stolen in Baja, I'm guessing the feds would say well you shouldn't have been flying in Mexico.

I'd talk to an A&P and say: look, I need to disable my plane so it CAN'T be STOLEN when I'm in Mexico. IF the A&P were to say ''impossible'' -- like, if someone is smart enough to steal it and fly it away, they'll get it if they want it -- then I WOULDN'T FLY INTO MEXICO -- unless I was planning to sleep next to the plane at night with a weapon.

I'm not an A&P so I don't know what's possible. What an A&P advises might be against fed law.

Seems simple to me. Disable a plane if left unsecured for the night, or don't fly it to MX without possibility of it being stolen.

Any pilot who doesn't take security precautions is stupid and gets no sympathy from this Pilot.

Not sure how many more planes need to be stolen before the ''light bulb'' turns on.




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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 09:16 AM


another look at this....

what if the planes are NOT being "stolen" but being taken to BAJA to collect insurance money.....economy is bad and lots of people bought expensive things they wanted but can't afford now....planes are hard to sell/expensive to keep....and a lot of high rollers are way over their heads....just arrange the crime and collect $$$$....

....this would explain why so many disappear from secure areas...:O
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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 09:26 AM


KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN
This is the plane that was stolen. The owner was fishing, had a huge prop lock on it and NO it wasn't for the insurance money...It wasn't insured for theft.

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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 09:36 AM


Oh, and Lee no one really cares what you think. Its is pretty obvious you don't know what your talking about on this subject, sympathy or no sympathy. Also I don't think this thread was started to get sympathy, it was started to help and to report what had happen as a warning to other pilots. Since you have no clue and are obviously not here to help maybe you should stay out of the conversation. PS: My wife, my son, and myself are all A&Ps if you have any questions for one.



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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 11:24 AM
REPORT FROM CAMPO LORENZO ON STOLEN AIRCRAFT


Wednesday August 19th at approximately 3:30 a.m. a 1978 Cessna 172 (N6111E / CN# 17271991) was stolen from Campo Lorenzo Skypark (LZB) in San Quintin. The departure was made despite dark and foggy conditions.

It appeared to be a very well thought out and professional theft. The electronically controlled gate entrance to the Campo Lorenzo required access through a six strand barbed wire fence and an approximate half mile walk. Investigations indicate that two persons entered the property.

Deb and I are very sad, as well as angered over the loss of this aircraft. Only the victim can really feel the pain of loosing your aircraft. It is a shame that these incidents seem to be on the increase in the Baja that we all love and enjoy so much.

Prevention measures are already underway to prevent any other such incidents here at Campo Lorenzo. In addition to the existing boulders on the perimeter of our tie down area we are installing a large concrete barrier. The runway access will be sealed off with our 16,000 lb. water trailer (no vehicle attached) until any approved departure. Subsequent to these immediate security measures, we will be installing motion lights and other theft prevention devices.

Unfortunately, despite all the anti-theft gadgets we install, it’s difficult to stop a professional from entering aircraft and flying them away. We are confident that our plan to immediately coral aircraft in the tie down area, thus preventing access to the airstrip, should deter any further incidents.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 12:38 PM


thank you lorenzo...so sorry for this problem...but as i am an optimist...this will force people to come up with some creative ideas for better plane security...thanks for telling us about your improvement ideas.



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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 01:00 PM


Quote:
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KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN
This is the plane that was stolen. The owner was fishing, had a huge prop lock on it and NO it wasn't for the insurance money...It wasn't insured for theft.


Hey! If that is a current picture of the plane, that owner has problems. No 12" letters? FAR § 45.29. They've got him down for an ADIZ violation.




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[*] posted on 8-21-2009 at 01:09 PM


Although I certainly don't approve of what happened that pilot was very good to take off on your little runway at night in IFR conditions.
Like I said, they've been watching you, and the have probably flown out of there a few times before, for practice.
You probably know them. And I don't mean you we're in on it just that they have been there before.




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