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US Issues Mexico Travel Warning
Came out today.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_4491.html
In other news, Mexico has been ranked the 16th most violent country in the world by Mexico’s “CIDAC” (Center of Research for Development). There is a
chart in the report that shows that if Baja were a separate country, and not a state, it would be the 12th most violent country in the world. CIDAC
has published a 16 page Spanish language document which states that Chihuahua, Baja California and the state of Mexico head the list with the most
homicides, vehicle thefts and executions in Mexico; it adds that, on a world scale, Mexico ranks 16th with the highest index of violence and crime
among 115 nations. The study sets out that the nation’s gravest problems are "the non-existence of an integral vision that might emphasize prevention;
the lack of professionalism of police and of agents charged with carrying out justice; a penal system without transparency re discretion and
corruption as well as an extremely high impunity rate which reaches 98.3% (the probability that a person who breaks the law may have to face a judge
is 1.7%)." Here's the link to the report:
http://www.cidac.org/vnm/pdf/pdf/IncidenciaDelictivaViolenci...
[Edited on 8-21-2009 by arrowhead]
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On the bright side, a chart on page 6 of the CIDAC report shows 15.5 homicides per 100,000 people in Mexico in 1998 and 10.6 in 2008. That's about a
32% drop in 10 years.
"Mexico ranks 16th with the highest index of violence and crime among 115 nations" (10.6 homicides per 100,000 people)
For perspective, the US is the 33rd most violent out of the 115. (5.6 homicides per 100,000)
El Salvador is number 1 with 61.0 homicides / 100,000
India, #50 comes in at 2.8,
Spain, #97 at 0.77,
Malta, #115 at 0.0.
[Edited on 8-21-2009 by k-rico]
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Also interesting:
Palestine is #42 with 3.85 homicides per 100,000 people
Syria is #83 with 1.23 homicides per 100,000 people
Lebanon is #106 with 0.57 homicides per 100,000 people
Sounds like the Middle East is a great place to live/visit and NOT get killed. Who would of thought that?
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Wow, between this and the new border crossing system, this might be the final nail in the coffin for tourism and economy south of the
border..............not to mention I heard on the news this morning that now small amounts of pot, cocaine and meth are legal in Mexico Batten down the hatches!
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"This information is current as of today, Fri Aug 21 2009 09:24:06 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time).
Mexico
August 20, 2009
The Department of State has issued this Travel Alert to update security information for U.S. citizens traveling to and living in Mexico. It
supersedes the Travel Alert for Mexico dated February 20, 2009, and expires on February 20, 2010."
It looks like the State Department "Travel Alert" is an advisory that is issued every six months and has nothing at all to do with the Mexican
government CIDAK report. The "Alert" issued today merely updates an Alert issued on Feb. 20, and will remain in effect until Feb. 20 of next year.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
I heard on the news this morning that now small amounts of pot, cocaine and meth are legal in Mexico Batten down the hatches! |
Finally some good news. Tourism will rise since the consumers of all the drugs crossing the border are good old Americans. Now they can vacation and
do drugs without interference. Such a deal.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Finally some good news. Tourism will rise since the consumers of all the drugs crossing the border are good old Americans. Now they can vacation and
do drugs without interference. Such a deal. |
Think so? I'll bet it's still against the law to sell the stuff.
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Maybe, but sharing your stash shouldn't be a problem.
Don't bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me...
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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GOOD GAWD FOLKS....GET REAL!!! Drugs might as well be legal here in the U.S!!!.. As any high school kid in any part of the country, can tell you where
to go to buy anything you may want. We all know whats feeding this, Right? ++C++
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Crusoe
GOOD GAWD FOLKS....GET REAL!!! Drugs might as well be legal here in the U.S!!!.. As any high school kid in any part of the country, can tell you where
to go to buy anything you may want. We all know whats feeding this, Right? ++C++ |
Yes, we all know what is feeding it. All the permissive US parents who long ago lost the family unit to the current US culture of entitlement and low
expectations.
Pass the tuskie before it burns your fingers.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Crusoe
GOOD GAWD FOLKS....GET REAL!!! Drugs might as well be legal here in the U.S!!!.. As any high school kid in any part of the country, can tell you where
to go to buy anything you may want. We all know whats feeding this, Right? ++C++ |
So..we should turn over distribution rights to the government? if you don't, the cartels will still have it. More of it since legalization will
expand the client base. What will legalization solve?
It's the ol' rock and the hard place.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Finally some good news. Tourism will rise since the consumers of all the drugs crossing the border are good old Americans. Now they can vacation and
do drugs without interference. Such a deal. |
My bet is that this will become a guaranteed money maker for the local cops.
Tourist: But...I have less than 4 grams.
Cop: You have more. Pay me or go to jail. 
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Dont think the new rule applies to meth. I thought it was just pot, coke and smack.
Hey, has anyone told Keith Richards about this new law?
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I did hear that methamphetamine was included.....did not read that heroin was.....only pot, cocaine and meth.........
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Why discriminate?
| Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
only pot, cocaine and meth......... |
Heroin and LSD also included.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
Wow, between this and the new border crossing system, this might be the final nail in the coffin for tourism and economy south of the border
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Here's another coffin nail in today's AFN:
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TIJUANA BC 21 Agosto 2009.- (AFN) La delincuencia se apoderó de la zona centro, donde se registran 20 asaltos al día en negocios ubicados en la
avenida revolución, según mencionó el presidente de la asociación de comerciantes de la zona centro, Guillermo Díaz, en una reunión que sostuvo con el
Secretario de Seguridad Pública Municipal, Julián Leyzaola Pérez.
Con ello, el líder de los comerciantes marcó una diferencia con lo expresado por Julián Palomo Saucedo, presidente de la asociación de comerciantes de
la Avenida Revolución, quien en días pasados declaró que dicha zona era totalmente segura al haber un blindaje policíaco.
Al respecto, Guillermo Díaz declaró que es falso el “blindaje policíaco” en esta zona comercial, donde señaló que son comunes los actos vandálicos y
de robo sin que haya vigilancia en el lugar.
Los asaltantes, continuó, afectan tanto a negocios establecidos como a la gente que transita en esta zona, además de señalar que debido a la
inseguridad y a la escasa venta algunos comercios se han visto en la necesidad de cerrar temprano sus instalaciones.
A la llegada de los medios de comunicación a la reunión Leyzaola Pérez partió de manera abrupta del lugar sin ofrecer declaración alguna.
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Loosely translated, it says that the "protected zone" for tourists in TJ is just a myth. Criminals have taken over the Central Zone of Tijuana. There
are 20 assaults daily against businesses located on Avenida Revolución.
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Arrowhead- If this is true, it is very, very scary!! Yikes!! C
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I feel sorry for all those folks up north, but according to the numbers, Baja Sur ranks below the U.S. national average when it comes to Homicides at
4.7 per 100,000 against 5.62 for the U.S. In fact, we are just a bit higher than the rate for all industrialized nations.
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i get so disgusted when i even mention traveling to mexico. there is so much fear instilled in everyone. it's an automatic "no" whenever i ask or
tell anyone if they'd like to come down. every time i'm on the road in mexico, it's such an uplifting experience for me. what u think upon grows.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Finally some good news. Tourism will rise since the consumers of all the drugs crossing the border are good old Americans. Now they can vacation and
do drugs without interference. Such a deal. |
Think so? I'll bet it's still against the law to sell the stuff. |
Dennis,
In Todos Santos, the police department regulates the retail drug business ...
The dealers pay a percentage at the police station each week and then are allowed carte blanche ...
They are the authorized dealers ....
I know this as my medical herb was delivered directly to my casa by authorized dealers, and the police told me it was OK to smoke it in my casa, but
never in cargo.
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