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bajalera
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English 101
Because of my benevolent nature--as well as recent evidence that one of the inferior minds within our midst is badly in need of assistance--I have
found it necessary to upgrade my established position as Arbiter of the Apostrophe to Arbiter of English Usage (without an increase in compenstion).
I realize that it will be difficult for a dried up little brain to assimilate complex scholarly material, but am hopeful it will be able to fathom the
following rule.
Rule No. 1: When a quotation ends a sentence, the period goes inside the quotation mark. [Unless you are British.]
By devoting attention to the study of Rule No. 1, Birdbrain may be able to avoid the shocking deviation from good form he demonstrated in a recent Off
Topic post.
Cheers!
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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DENNIS
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Give 'em Hell, Lera.
Now...Who might Birdbrain be? 
That's OK....I found it. Thought for a minute you were refering to one who dines on used toilet paper. You know...the other Birdbrain.
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalera
Because of my benevolent nature--as well as recent evidence that one of the inferior minds within our midst is badly in need of assistance--I have
found it necessary to upgrade my established position as Arbiter of the Apostrophe to Arbiter of English Usage (without an increase in compenstion).
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You wrote, "(without an increase in compenstion)" though perhaps you meant to write compensation, however, by calling attention to the issue you are
compensating. You may find the word remuneration more to your liking in this case or reference to your tendencies toward compensation.
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I realize that it will be difficult for a dried up little brain to assimilate complex scholarly material, but am hopeful it will be able to fathom the
following rule.
Rule No. 1: When a quotation ends a sentence, the period goes inside the quotation mark. [Unless you are British.]
By devoting attention to the study of Rule No. 1, Birdbrain may be able to avoid the shocking deviation from good form he demonstrated in a recent Off
Topic post.
Cheers! |
In regard to quotations and the placement of the period within the quotes for the United States or outside the quotes for a final stop for British
writers, recall that the forum with which you direct your commentary is determined to be foreign to either place and therefore difficult to determine
the origin of the writer. One can safely assume that a fair portion are European or Canadian who follow British form and quite a few others who follow
the form found in the USA, while others are foreign to both and follow the form from which they are educated.
Since the period or final stop within or out of the quotation has little affect on the meaning, nor pronunciation, it is considered a point of style
and consistency, the point has little merit here on Baja Nomads except of course to suggest that we do like to see a proper ending to sentences.
While pedantic attention to grammar and style is of importance, for without we would be lost entirely, I would argue the case of the period or final
stop use you site is ambiguous enough to allow for either case without great offense to the reader.
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by gnukid]
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Bajahowodd
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While pedantic attention to grammar and style is of importance, for without we would be lost entirely, I would argue the case of the period or final
stop use you site is ambiguous enough to allow for either case without great offense to the reader
I think you meant cite.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I think you meant cite. |
I think you mean "mean" as he is speaking in the present tense and has done nothing to change that. 
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Always knew this was a "mean site/cite"."
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Bajahowodd
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Ah, but the word mean has some colloquial usages that do not necessarily mean mean.
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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arrowhead
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[Edited on 9-1-2009 by arrowhead]
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Taco de Baja
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What is the mien, and the mean age of mean old men?
Truth generally lies in the coordination of antagonistic opinions
-Herbert Spencer
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toneart
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If the mean grammatical quotient of our Nomad posters were to be scrutinized by our mean grammar police, most of us would be cited for our
transgressions on this site. You can quote me but please employ proper placement of the period. 
edited to add the following twirlyhead>>>>
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by toneart]
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DENNIS
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"Mean" means a lot of things:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mean
Didn't see Chow Mean on the list. Probably 'cause it's a Japanese word.
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I just let my software, Ramblestop, handle all my light work.
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Bajahowodd
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I thought Chow Mean was Chinese.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I thought Chow Mean was Chinese. |
That's Chow Mein. It's made from the long hair from a horses neck. A world of difference.
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bajalera
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Ooops, a typo! Thanks, Gnu.
As clearly stated in the heading, I am dealing only with English Usage, by implication as applied in the U.S.
As for authority, mine is the Chicago Manual of Style 14th Edition [which outranks the Bible although its nowhere near as sexy.]
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalera the Arbiter of the Apostrophe
which outranks the Bible although its nowhere near as sexy |
doh!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I thought Chow Mean was Chinese. |
That's Chow Mein. It's made from the long hair from a horses neck. A world of difference. |
I always find chow mane a little stringy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNuts
I always find chow mane a little stringy. |
That's Chow [that means food] Mein [that meens Horse Hair.]
It has ancient oriental medicinal qualities, ya know. "Hair Of The Horse?" You've heard of that stuff.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaNuts
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I thought Chow Mean was Chinese. |
That's Chow Mein. It's made from the long hair from a horses neck. A world of difference. |
I always find chow mane a little stringy. |
Yes, but lobster; that is, Chow Maine is good.
Just to be silly.
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I don't care what any of you editorialist say I'm not going back and correct my posts/articles.
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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