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rbbob
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paying taxes at border ????
Wife and I are planning to bring a trailerload of stuff down in a couple months, but I read that Americans are getting taxed heavily now if you bring
lots of things into Mexico. Anyone had recent experience with this, and how much tax did you pay ? -thanks much
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rbbob
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paying taxes at border ..... ????
anyone with recent experience paying taxes for bringing things into Mexico ? How much did you have to pay ? -thanks
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Woooosh
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That's a great question with no answer. How much is the duty on electronics, food, housewares, clothing, etc if you should be directed to secondary
when entering Mexico (likely with a trailer). Does it matter if the goods are new or used, what is the stated percentage of duty for each category?
I think it's all up to the red light and the person who inspects you.
If it were me and I had a huge amount of trailered used goods to bring south... I might apply with my FM3 for the one-time move allowance. Next trip
down let another friend in your group apply with their FM3. I think you get one free trip down with each FM3. Would that work?
[Edited on 9-19-2009 by Woooosh]
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willardguy
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I think woooosh has the right idea. I went thru the new mexicali crossing last week and were checked pretty closely. we had a half dozen 30 packs of
bud light that they wanted to tax us on. after much discussion and fooling around on the computer they couldnt seem to figure out what to charge us so
they sent us on our way with a warning,so if all that was for a little bit of beer you can bet on getting dinged pretty good I would think.sure glad
we got all our building supplies and furnishings across before this all began!
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There is a time limit after receiving a FM3 in which to bring your stuff duty free. Don't know what it is but I'm sure it's less than a year. Check
with customs to get the straight scoop.
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marv sherrill
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Even with an FM-3 try to find something printed that says you can bring anything across - one time, etc - its not there - And why are you bring bud
lite to Mexico??????? yuk
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by marv sherrill
And why are you bring bud lite to Mexico??????? yuk |
I might think the same thing except that everywhere you look around here, it's for sale. Coors lite as well.
It's just one big happy world now.
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La Cerveza de Mexico
Bud Light is THE Biggest selling beer in Mexico and I've heard the price is competitive.
I wouldn't buy any, but the Mexicans love it. Anytime there's a big Mex turnout on the beach, the area is full of empty Bud Light cans.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Anytime there's a big Mex turnout on the beach, the area is full of empty Bud Light cans. |
Not to mention lots of Mex senorita's cans
Bob Durrell
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Loretana
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Truckloads at the border
We just returned to Oregon from our second trip to Loreto with our household goods in the past three months. We are furnishing a 5 bedroom house, so
we had a monumental load of stuff.
Trip #1 was done the last week of June. We had two trucks with two Interstate trailers (those black box ones) packed full with doors, cabinets,
windows, toilets, sinks, granite countertops, a full appliance suite, new, in boxes from Costco, household goods in labeled boxes and furniture. We
had purposely gone to Tecate and timed the crossing for late afternoon on Sunday. We walked across, got visas for the friends driving our second truck
and trailer and figured out who was in charge at Aduana. We had receipts for everything, (some genuine, some home made) and a "manifest" or bill of
lading. (I worked for a manufacturing outfit in Oregon some years back, and had some nice bill of lading forms. Very official looking stuff. We
declared the value at $18,000 and paid a little over $1700.00 in taxes to Aduana. They gave us stamped receipts and sent us happily on our way. No
Customs Brokers were involved, so we know it was officially "unofficial".
Trip #2 was accomplished on Sept 10th. Due to the complete change in personnel and regulations, we decided we should declare properly and run the
gauntlet at Otay Mesa. We had one truck and one trailer this time, but all the goods were once again manifested on paper, with some receipts. We had
teak outdoor furniture, 2 bicycles, the rest of our couches, dining tables and chairs, a lot of framed artwork, and a Milgard sliding patio door.
There were at least 10 boxes of household goods as well, with four cases of red wine thrown in for good measure.
When we pulled in, an agent from one of the three customs brokers cornered us and offered his "services". We went over our paperwork with him, opened
up the trailer and got on with the deal. He then brought the "licenciada" (lady Aduana inspector) over to inspect the trailer and to place a value on
the goods. She came up with the absurd figure of $500.00 (it was at least $4000.00) and the Customs Broker drew up our paperwork. We paid $189.00, of
which $75.00 went to Hacienda and the rest to the Customs Broker. Lots of truckloads driven by Mexicans were going through with furniture, rags, used
appliances, etc, but we were the only Americans. We were done in 45 minutes, all paid and stamped and happy.
My two experiences bringing all my goods in have been quite positive, reasonable, and safe, with minimum hassle.
But in retrospect, I believe the key to the situation has been the fact that my husband and I both speak Spanish, and push a lot of paperwork as we go
through. I sure am glad it's a done deal now!
 
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paperwork is important and gave you the edge with the broker.
I used a San Diego trucking company years ago to import a container of furniture I bought on-line. They charged 10% of the retail value and would
only accept brand new items in their packaging for shipping. The 10% included transportion to Rosarito Beach and all the import taxes/paperwork.
Based on the above story- my broker must have made a killing. But we both "won" because I saved money on shipping/import and he made money working
the transaction. Mexico may have lost or not realized it's full income potential on the deal which is what the new system is supposed to fix I guess.
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When we took our stuff to Honduras through Mexico, the custom's agent in Brownsville went through---not very well--and valued almost everything at
$1.00---pair of shoes, one dollar, computer, one dollar---everything. So the total was extremely low. And we had no paper work at all.
I wonder if it common for them to undervalue everything.
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Loretana
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Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
paperwork is important and gave you the edge with the broker.
I used a San Diego trucking company years ago to import a container of furniture I bought on-line. They charged 10% of the retail value and would
only accept brand new items in their packaging for shipping. The 10% included transportion to Rosarito Beach and all the import taxes/paperwork.
Based on the above story- my broker must have made a killing. But we both "won" because I saved money on shipping/import and he made money working
the transaction. Mexico may have lost or not realized it's full income potential on the deal which is what the new system is supposed to fix I guess.
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Woooosh--- Ud. dio en el clavo! (you hit the nail on the head)
The broker I spoke to in San Diego wanted $12,000 to move our first load to Loreto with all import and shipping taxes included. I almost had a
coronary when I heard the price.
I knew we could do better. 
And theoretically Mexico will benefit from all the money we intend to spend down there with family and friends patronizing the local economy. 
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When we aent through with our household things we had all the receipts...there are receipts. Almost all our stuff was used given or ours to start
with. The agent asked us how much we thought it was worth...we came up with a number we thought was fair...he looked it over (kind of) by looking
into the trailer (it was packed). We had our bikes on top of everything. He really did not want to unload everything...work. we payed 15% after a
bit of conversation.......in cash. He as happy we were happy and off we went. We have brought things several times and it is always the same but
different. Depends on who you talk to. Our Spanish is spotty but my husband speaks Italian and speaks to them in Italian. I think thay just want us
gone. Nancy
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try this website:
http://www.aduana.sat.gob.mx
It will give you the up to date customs taxes (15% on the value of the items) over the exemption. If the total value is over $1000 they (will
usually) refer you to Otay Mesa and a broker......
The following is taken directly off of the customs flyer given to airline passengers.
MEXICAN CUSTOMS
PERSONAL LUGGAGE COMPRISE THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES:
Used or new goods for personal use such as clothing, footwear & personal hygiene & beauty items that reasonably respond to the duration of the
trip and that due to its quantities may not be used for commercial purposes including:
a wedding gown and its accessories
two photographic or video cameras & their accessories
Up to 12 rolls of film or videotapes
o Filmed or developed photographic material
o two mobile phones or pagers
o one typewriter
o one electronic agenda
o one used/new laptop, notebook, omni-book or similar portable computer
o one used/new portable copying machine or printer
o one used/new portable projector including its accessories
o two portable used/new personal sports gear
o one used/new portable radio/CD player or portable digital sound player and a portable DVD player and its accessories, including a set of portable
speakers, 5 laser disks, 10 DVDs, 30 CDs or tapes and 5 data storage devices or memory cards
o used/new books or magazines that doe to its quantities may not be used for commercial purposes
o 5 toys that can be normally transported by a person, including collection toys and a video game console
o Arterial pressure and sugar level metering devices as well as medicines for personal use provided that prescription must be submitted for
psychotropic drugs
o One set of binoculars and a telescope
o One musical instrument and its accessories
o One used/new tent or one camping equipment including their accessories
o Up to 3 surfing boards or windsurf boards
o Four fishing rods and its accessories
o Baby travel accessories such as strollers & baby walkers
o Used/new baby clothing that due to its quantity may not be used for commercial purposes
o One set of tools provided that they are normally transported by passenger
o Persons over 18 yrs old maximum of 20 packs of cigarettes, 25 cigars or 200 grams of tobacco and up to 3 liters of alcoholic beverages and 3
liters of wine
o Handicapped travelers my introduce items for personal use, useful to have a better performance of their activities
o Up to two dogs or cats may be introduced as well as their accessories provided that the corresponding zoosanitary import certificate issued by
SAGARPA is presented to the custom officials.
Exemptions:
o One or more duty free goods which value may be proven with the invoice or sales receipt and do not exceed $300 US dollas or its domestic or foreign
equivalent when the entry is by air or maritime transport or $50 when the entry is by land.
o Alcoholic beverages, beer, manufactured tabaccos, cigarettes or automotive fuel may not be introduced withing these exemptions.
o During Easter, Summer and Christmas/New Years holiday periods, Mexican passengers arriving in Mexico by land, other than residents of the border
zones, may introduce Duty and tax free goods for up to $300 US dollars or its domestic or foreign equivalent. Starting and finishing dates of these
holiday periods may be consulted directly with the customs officials or at the web page: www.aduanas.gov.mx
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I used a San Diego trucking company years ago to import a container of furniture I bought on-line. They charged 10% of the retail value and would
only accept brand new items in their packaging for shipping. The 10% included transportion to Rosarito Beach and all the import taxes/paperwork.
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That must have been a while ago Woooosh. The lowest quote we got for importation and transportation of the new home supplies we're bringing in is
30% of the value of the goods. The 30% covers the import broker fee, warehousing, and the truck trip to Baja Sur. The other quotes we
got were 40-45% of the value of the items!
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Pacifico
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Anymore recent experiences????? I will be taking a load down soon and will post up info after......
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elfbrewery
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wood
So what is it about bringing wood (new or used) across the border? Termites, duty, ?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elfbrewery
So what is it about bringing wood (new or used) across the border? Termites, duty, ? |
It can be done, just needs to be done properly. It is my understanding that a fumigation certificate is needed and it is best to use a broker if it is
a large load. I didn't want the hassle, so I bought all my lumber down in Ensenada and Maneadero. I posted contact info for a good lumberyard on Baja
Nomad a while back where you can call in your order and they will have it ready for you.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elfbrewery
So what is it about bringing wood (new or used) across the border? Termites, duty, ? |
Big time duty on construction materials. If you have an appreciable amount of lumber, there probably won't be any of that "look at it and send you
on your way" stuff happening.
The good ol' days are gone.
Anyway, you can buy good lumber here now and the higher price will put it at what you would pay in the states with duty added. Makes little sense to
be dragging it through the border any more.
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