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[*] posted on 11-10-2009 at 10:06 PM
Rock throwing at cars on the Scenic Highway


There are 3 to 4 reports per DAY of rocks being thrown at cars on the Scenic Highway. Last weekend a little 2-year old girl was hit in the head by a rock and is now near death in a TJ hospital. The article in Spanish:

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10112...




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 11:36 AM


Great, now I need to wear a helmet on the way down every week.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 11:57 AM


This sort of thing happens just about everywhere. You may have noticed that certain urban areas in particular in the US have outfitted overpases with high fences. They won't stop everything from being thrown, but do put an end to large and heavy objects. Perpetrators are usually either stupid juveniles who have no grasp of the potential consequences, or malcontents such as geng bangers.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 12:11 PM


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There are 3 to 4 reports per DAY of rocks being thrown at cars on the Scenic Highway.


that's a lot. if we assume that for every 3 or 4 reports, an additional 6 to 8 are unreported, and assume that 5,000 cars per day travel the road, then each car passing has greater than 1/1000 chance of being target.
many of you buy lotto tickets with much worse odds.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 01:43 PM


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Perpetrators are usually either stupid juveniles who have no grasp of the potential consequences


I was one of them.

Yes, I was drunk but that doesn't make me feel any better about it. 50 years later, a story like this brings all the guilt back again.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 02:09 PM


a good asss kicking will solve the problem. just ask me!



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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 02:11 PM


Joe- While I can't speak for all, I'm gonna make a wild guess and say that many of us did stupid things when we were kids that we later regretted. Not enough time to list all of mine.:no:
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 02:31 PM


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I always watch the overpasses for people just hanging out. I know options are limited but you can alter speed or do a lane change if things look hokey.
Ever since the LA riots it seems I have had that paranoid trait.


You arn't the only one. When I see people lingering around on the foot bridge overpasses, I won't go beneith them if possible. I'll go over to the shoulder.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 04:36 PM


i ALWAYS drive on the left side of the rd, I don't know if that would help, and also Im always on the look out for possible trouble. I remember when this was happening in the Mexicali-San Felipe rd.



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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 04:53 PM


You'd be a dead duck on the autobahn driving on the left side. In fact, geez.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 05:25 PM


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You'd be a dead duck on the autobahn driving on the left side. In fact, geez.


Yes, avoid any exits marked "ausfahrt."
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 07:47 PM


Actually that was not translated accurately from the article. The linked article said that agents at the toll gate had heard of 3 or 4 similar events on the same day the little girl was hurt. A bit different from 3 to 4 events per day, implying that there are over a hundred or more such events on the toll road each month. But whatever it was it is still a very sad thing indeed.

The USA DOJ reports that carjackings and burglaries are up as well on the other side of the border. The recession/depression is leading to more and more events like this world wide and I doubt we will see things improving much anytime soon. You need to be careful wherever you go today...


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There are 3 to 4 reports per DAY of rocks being thrown at cars on the Scenic Highway.


that's a lot. if we assume that for every 3 or 4 reports, an additional 6 to 8 are unreported, and assume that 5,000 cars per day travel the road, then each car passing has greater than 1/1000 chance of being target.
many of you buy lotto tickets with much worse odds.





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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 10:21 PM


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Actually that was not translated accurately from the article.

By arrowhead again.




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 10:29 PM


Here's most of the article with references:

There have been other recent reports of vehicles "stoned" on the scenic highway):

"Ya había reportes de autos apedreados en carretera escénica"

"When we warned the caseta personnel, they said to us that they had received three or four reports during the day." ...

"He said that around 21:00 pm going from Ensenada to Tijuana and soon after passing la Mision near an off ramp, he felt a blow to his vehicle but, seeing that another car was parked and lights out in this lane, decided not to stop." ... "Because the blow was on the left side, opposite the hill, they assume that someone near the ridge was waiting for the car to pass (and) hit it right under the back window."

This event was reported to Caminos y Puentes Federales (Capufe) and to the military checkpoint after the caseta.

BTW, Capufe has refused to indemnify travelers for losses they have incurred from rock throwers.
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<http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10112009/413436.aspx>
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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 11:44 PM


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Actually that was not translated accurately from the article. The linked article said that agents at the toll gate had heard of 3 or 4 similar events on the same day the little girl was hurt. A bit different from 3 to 4 events per day, implying that there are over a hundred or more such events on the toll road each month.


Well Ron, I'm not sure where to start. First of all, if you followed the news, you probably would know that the little girl was hurt the evening of November 8th, while the article I posted was of incidents that occured on November 10th. So right out of the gate we already have rock attacks on two separate days.

And if you cared to dig in you would also find this report where the police say they received three reports of rock throwing at 7:30PM, 9PM and 10:15PM on November 10:

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10112...

...and you might have seen this article that says there were no less than "half a dozen" rock attacks the weekend of October 19.

http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/?id=15795

...and if you really wanted to do a thorough job, you would read the readers comments on those news articles. It seems a lot of people have a story to tell about getting hit with rocks on the Scenic Highway.




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[*] posted on 11-11-2009 at 11:47 PM


This is a problem. Any word on if anything is being done about this?
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[*] posted on 11-12-2009 at 12:08 AM


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Pull in your fangs, Fernando.

En boca del mentiroso, lo cierto se hace dudoso.

This ones for you:

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[*] posted on 11-12-2009 at 07:05 AM


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Actually that was not translated accurately from the article. The linked article said that agents at the toll gate had heard of 3 or 4 similar events on the same day the little girl was hurt. A bit different from 3 to 4 events per day, implying that there are over a hundred or more such events on the toll road each month.


Well Ron, I'm not sure where to start. First of all, if you followed the news, you probably would know that the little girl was hurt the evening of November 8th, while the article I posted was of incidents that occured on November 10th. So right out of the gate we already have rock attacks on two separate days.

And if you cared to dig in you would also find this report where the police say they received three reports of rock throwing at 7:30PM, 9PM and 10:15PM on November 10:

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/10112...

...and you might have seen this article that says there were no less than "half a dozen" rock attacks the weekend of October 19.

http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/?id=15795

...and if you really wanted to do a thorough job, you would read the readers comments on those news articles. It seems a lot of people have a story to tell about getting hit with rocks on the Scenic Highway.


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[*] posted on 11-12-2009 at 07:13 AM


“Cuando avisamos a personal de las casetas, nos dijeron que ye habían recibido tres o cuatro reportes en el día”, manifestó la señora Hernández, quien hace unas semanas viajaba por la Carretera Escénica junto a su esposo e hija y una roca los impactó por el lado izquierdo....

Sorry Nancy, but you can paint this any color you want with as many articles as you can find but you still did not translate it correctly. The article said that they received 3 or four reports that day. That is en el dia - not por dia.

I am sure there have been other reports of rock throwing on the toll road - and if the little girl was hurt on a different day that remains a tragic event either way. That is something that happens on highways north and south of the border unfortunately. I only noted that the article did not say that they were receiving 3 to 4 per day as you incorrectly translated.

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