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elgatoloco
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Health Net of California offers cross-border plan
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/nov/13/health-net-of...
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noproblemo2
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Very Interesting.....
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Bajahowodd
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This falls into the same argument why Medicare should be extended to Mexico. Prices are much lower. Yet, in the field of general health care, the
quality quite acceptable. Perhaps more US health carriers will follow the lead. Makes great sense.
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Russ
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At $1300/mo and rising I had to drop my med coverage through Health Net. Best thing I ever did! Forced me to look into VA and so far I'm impressed. I
recommend every vet apply/sign up. Even if you don't use the benefits They get $ for each person who's singed up. It helps all the vets. Of what I've
been through so far it isn't even close to the VA many of us dealt with after Nam. I went to Long Beach and everyone I encountered had a really good
attitude towards getting you everything that is available to vets. I'm going back early Dec. for the agent orange screening and will probably end up
with a small check every month at the least.
+++++ Sorry to highjack this thread. I'll probably open another thread for the vets that live down here when I get back. We can help each other here.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
I'm going back early Dec. for the agent orange screening and will probably end up with a small check every month at the least.
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Let's hope it's a small check, Russ. Seems the larger the check, the larger the problem. I know at least one 100%er from agent orange who seems to
be OK but, I don't know how he could be. He is completely nuts as well. Maybe that's how he qualifies. Right around $2600 per month, tax free.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
This falls into the same argument why Medicare should be extended to Mexico. Prices are much lower. Yet, in the field of general health care, the
quality quite acceptable. Perhaps more US health carriers will follow the lead. Makes great sense. |
Medicare fraud is huge in the states. It would probably be more out of control cross border. Besides, the AMA wants your money.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Russ
At $1300/mo and rising I had to drop my med coverage through Health Net. Best thing I ever did! Forced me to look into VA and so far I'm impressed. I
recommend every vet apply/sign up. |
Thanks for sharing that Russ. I had heard less than flattering reports about the VA but I will admit that was from old shipmates who used the VA years
ago. Maybe I should give them another look...
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noproblemo2
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Have a friend who uses the VA in La Jolla and swears it's really good care.
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comitan
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I can't say enough about the VA La Jolla. They are the best and they care.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
I can't say enough about the VA La Jolla. They are the best and they care. |
Good to hear positive thing on
the VA, our guys deserve it...
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soulpatch
The VA Hospital in La Jolla is a full service Hospital and if there's something that they can't take care of they will send you where it can be taken
care. I have a Melanoma in my eye they sent me to Shiley Eye clinic which is one of the very best in the country.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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bajalou
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I'm using the VA in Albuquerque and am very pleased with them. They also have a clinic in T or C I use for the primary care doctor. I'm happy with
it.
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DENNIS
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The VA has come a long way in recent years. The horror stories are a thing of the past.....I sincerly hope.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
The VA is fine for routine and planned care. Just keep that in mind. Still a very good option. |
I've had complicated but fixable heart problems in the past couple of years, and the care I received at UCSD in both Hillcrest and La Jolla was
outstanding. That's the result, I believe, of their being a teaching hospital.
I've had to interact with more than a few UCSD doctors and, interestingly, what I found out over time is that just about all of them hold joint
appointments at the VA in La Jolla. While I've had no personal experience with the place, I wouldn't hesitate to go to them for any condition.
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I had orthopedic surgery at the VA La Jolla about two years ago. Because the VA hospital is a training hospital for USD, the supervising surgeon was
the number 1 orthopedics guy in all of San Diego. The doctor that does all the sports injuries for the professional athletes. I couldn't have been
more happy with the results.
By the way, the VA is not accepting new patients unless they have a service-connected disability or meet the low-income tests. Everybody else is being
wait-listed. I'd advise every veteran to at least apply and get on the list. The income requirements vary by your place of residence. In San Diego, a
veteran (with zero service-connected disability) with one dependent can get into the VA with an annual income of less than about $50,000.
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Bajahowodd
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What? Good government run healthcare??  And actually, what with the huge
number of vets returning from the present wars, it's obvious that additional funding is something no one should argue about.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What? Good government run healthcare?? And actually, what with the huge
number of vets returning from the present wars, it's obvious that additional funding is something no one should argue about. |
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noproblemo2
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What? Good government run healthcare?? And actually, what with the huge
number of vets returning from the present wars, it's obvious that additional funding is something no one should argue about. |
And I'll second that!!!!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
The VA has come a long way in recent years. The horror stories are a thing of the past.....I sincerly hope. |
not quite DENNIS:
State consumer affairs department requests probe of Palo Alto VA
By Jessica Bernstein-Wax
Daily News Staff Writer
Posted: 11/14/2009 12:04:18 AM PST
Updated: 11/14/2009 12:04:19 AM PST
The state consumer affairs department has formally requested an investigation into the VA Palo Alto Health Care System, where 23 glaucoma patients
experienced significant vision loss while receiving treatment.
California Department of Consumer Affairs Director Brian Stiger made the request in response to an administrative petition the California Academy of
Eye Surgeons and Physicians, the American Glaucoma Society and the California Medical Association filed in September with his agency.
"As the events at the VA hospital do concern consumers, I am formally requesting that the Board of Optometry, together with the Medical Board of
California, investigate the occurrences at the Palo Alto Veterans Affairs Hospital regarding the eye care provided to veterans, including the role of
optometrists and physicians in that care," Stiger wrote in a Nov. 10 letter addressed to Dr. James Ruben, president of the California Academy of Eye
Surgeons and Physicians.
"To the extent permitted by existing state and federal law, I am also requesting that those boards make public the findings of the investigation,"
Stiger said.
However, Stiger rejected the medical groups' request that a new state law expanding optometrists' ability to treat glaucoma and prescribe medication
be put on hold until the investigation concludes.
The VA initiated a probe earlier this year after ophthalmologists reported that a 62-year-old male veteran with glaucoma went blind
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while being treated in the optometry department.
At issue is whether the optometry department failed to follow VA policy requiring it to consult with medical doctors on glaucoma cases, possibly
costing the 23 patients their vision, VA officials said at the time.
As part of the probe, the VA informed seven patients that doctors might have mismanaged their treatment. The VA has since made a similar disclosure to
an eighth patient and has ordered the optometry department to report to ophthalmology, spokeswoman Kerri Childress said in September.
"It is understandable that people are concerned — we certainly were," Childress said in an e-mail Friday. "However, VA Palo Alto has made all the
changes necessary to ensure our veterans with glaucoma receive the best care possible."
Ophthalmologists are physicians and medical school graduates, while optometrists earn their degrees after completing four years of optometry school
and, in some cases, a residency. The two groups of eye doctors have been fighting over glaucoma certification requirements for California optometrists
for years.
While ophthalmologists have historically treated glaucoma, optometrists now can do so in most states.
The latest California certification requirements, set in motion by the 2008 state Senate bill 1406, are still in the works, but the California Board
of Optometry will likely enact them in January, Mona Maggio, executive officer of the board, said earlier this year. Ophthalmologists have complained
that the requirements are "watered down," a charge the optometrists deny.
"It would be premature at this time to withdraw the department's findings in the absence of sufficient evidence establishing that the events at the VA
hospital are substantially linked to the implementation of SB 1406," Stiger said in the letter.
However, Stiger later said he would ask the optometry board, which is part of his department, to "re-evaluate its decision to proceed with these
regulations."
No one from the consumer affairs department could be reached for comment Friday because of a state-imposed furlough day.
Dr. Ruben, of the California Academy of Eye Surgeons and Physicians, said he is heartened by Stiger's request that the optometry "re-evaluate" its
process in adopting clinical training regulations.
"I'm concerned about what happened at the VA but, moving forward, I'm more concerned about what the future holds for people with glaucoma in
California," Ruben said. "The whole process needs to be revisited. We're not against optometrists treating glaucoma, but we do think there are certain
minimum requirements that are necessary."
William Gould, an attorney for the California Optometric Association, described the petition as "an attempt by ophthalmology to derail the regulatory
process" and noted that Stiger rejected most of the petitioners' requests.
Gould added that his group would welcome an investigation of the VA's optometry department.
"It would be helpful given the fact that we're not aware of adverse findings against the doctors," Gould said.
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OUCH...Still room for improvement, I guess.
I've seen some real nonsense come out of the place. They change doctors a lot. Many of them will work for the VA as a second job and I'm assuming
it's a lucrative deal for them.
I go through psychiatrists on a fairly regular basis. They just don't seem to last long.
Anyway, a new one I had a while back told me on our first appointment, "Now, I know you have problems but, if you don't want to talk about them, I
don't want to hear about them." We got along just fine. He's gone too.
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