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Borregoman
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Home Heating
I live in Bahia Santa Maria and as you know November-March it can be pretty cold and windy. I have a pretty good wood stove but wood is extremely
hard to find or get in these parts. I am looking at kerosene or propane space heaters. I have used the portable kerosene heaters a lot in the
States, but I don't know about the ability to get good kerosene in the San Felipe area. Propane is readily available but it costs more to operate.
Any ideas?
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Donjulio
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Kerosene costs a fortune in SF. Can your wood stove burn pellets? Also wood is not really that hard to find. Head over to SFAR area and there is a lot
of it over in that area. Just make sure you have a good chainsaw.
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Woooosh
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The portable propane space heaters that take the 20lb tanks are fairly efficient. Available at Home Depot Mexico. Not sold or legal in the CA.
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BajaWarrior
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Maybe get a truckload of Ironwood delivered from town. i've seen them selling it above town but just below Playa del Sol on the west side of the road.
Maybe your water guy (Marco?) knows someone in town that provides this service.
Otherwise, the propane heaters are the way to go, mount one on one of the local tall boy bottles and it will last for some time. Propane may not be
the cheapest but the Z Propane truck comes every Saturday.
We're in Playa Hermosa just about 80 houses south, Casa #24. Are you the guy with the Bronco?
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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tjBill
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Don't forget the Mexican way of staying warm; warm clothes. I've gotten into the habit of wearing a wool sweater and thermal under garmets.
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Keep warm in El Pescador
| Quote: | Originally posted by tjBill
Don't forget the Mexican way of staying warm; warm clothes. I've gotten into the habit of wearing a wool sweater and thermal under garmets.
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got my North Face fleece on this morning along over my thermal tee shirt with some really good boots, feet are nice and warm...
as it warms... off goes what needs too..
Have a very small fire going just for sitting here drinking coffee in the morning, when it goes out, that's it for the day....
But, the wood deal seems to be pretty tough.. used to cut and heat years ago.. and it's been my question when they show up with "oak" where did you
get this... I'm up North, and they are telling me, back over Tecate way, but on private land.. And where else would GOOD wood be... least that was
always the way I found it, when cutting ... the really good wood, you had to know someone, or where willing to take a chance getting a fine for
cutting it down..
Looking at the propane my self.. it's not perfect.. but after thinking about the work... I'm getting a bit old for the "bring in the wood and taking
out the ashes"...
Going to give it a try, had an old "tank" mount burner that i used to use in the garage... did not think i would ever have a use for it.. it's here,
but the tanks I brought down were empty... so waiting for the "propane" man this morning...
wouldn't you know it, he has been by like just about every day "honking" his horn.. now for the past four days no show, and not even on Monday.. well
maybe today..
For that one tank will run on full for 15 hours on HIGH.. much longer on low
High puts out 38,000 BTU's can't remember the low out put, think it was like 8,000 BTU. Also found that there are 4.2 gallons of propane in one 20 LB
tank.
Hope this helps... might throw just one more log on the fire it's still only 5 am right now..
Plus I need a refill on my coffee
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Borregoman
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The Heat is ON....
Too bad the kerosene is so expensive...you can buy those tank top heaters in CA but they don't recommend their use indoors although I think with
proper ventilation they can be used safely. Propane is much easier to get as the honking propane guy comes by about every other day. Marcos is our
water guy and I will chat about fire wood, but I know that won't be the cheapest avenue.
I did buy the large Big Buddy Heater that has a built in fan with a hose that will connect to a 20lb tank to take down for this trip. I justified the
cost as I can also safely use in in my RV.
Big Buddy Heater
I think I will take some measurements when I am down there in a few days for the permanent installation of the wall mount propane heaters that are
safe for indoor use. Something like this would be ideal.
Blue Flame Heater
I really don't want to buy wood, cost isn't the issue I really don't want the locals chopping down what beauty is left in the area. I will check to
see if my stove does burn the wood pellets as that might be an option as well.
Not the guy with the Bronco, we live near the southern most part of BSM.
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If you have the time to look around, look into a diesel space heater. They use them in Europe a lot, but they do sell them in the US. They use the
very same diesel that you put into a truck and is available everywhere in Mexico. These type of heaters are vented to the outside with a stovepipe,
just like a pot belly stove. A gallon of diesel puts out about 50% more BTU's than a gallon of propane, so for the same heat you would burn 1-1/2
gallons of propane to each gallon of diesel.
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Heaters not really necessary on the coast of Sonora. Overnight low was 65 last night. 
And, of course, no prevailing winds off the Sierra de Juarez or San Pedro Martir. With the water still above 70 over here, our prevailing winds are
pretty moderate in temp.
Looks like SF got gusts up to 39 mph yesterday where you "live", Mr. MV. I think you should concentrate on erecting wind blockades that prevent
blowing sand.
It will be interesting to see what they will be charging for propane delivery down there. We are paying 1.49/gallon at 13/1 exchange rate.
That p!ss ant heater wont heat even a corner of that structure. Remember, those "bricks" let wind and water right through.
[Edited on 12-8-2009 by Hook]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
The portable propane space heaters that take the 20lb tanks are fairly efficient. Available at Home Depot Mexico. Not sold or legal in the CA.
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I imagine they will work with a smaller tank? How big of an area will they heat?
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Sams Club Mexicali ans a propane heater that rolls around and you put a 5 gal propane bottle in it. It also had thermostat and electric fan. $193
US.
There is a refrigeration/heating man in San Felipe that has similar heaters. Also found them on Ebay without fan for about $120 as I recall.
I have one without fan that I use in the garage here in SF. Works great.
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Have you looked into the ventless gas fireplaces? They use either natural or propane gas. I've seen a couple of them and they seem put out a lot of
heat. Type in ventless fireplace in google and you wil get all toe info you want or need. Good luck
Joelt
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Sams Club Mexicali ans a propane heater that rolls around and you put a 5 gal propane bottle in it. It also had thermostat and electric fan. $193
US.
There is a refrigeration/heating man in San Felipe that has similar heaters. Also found them on Ebay without fan for about $120 as I recall.
I have one without fan that I use in the garage here in SF. Works great. |
Thanks---our place is small enough we probably would not need the fan---right now we just open the oven.
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dianaji
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Dangers of heating using an oven:
http://newsroom.dc.gov/show.aspx/agency/ota/section/2/releas...
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bajalou
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I am in a 5th wheel here in SF so use the oven also.
But we got a place in New Mexico that is pretty good size (at least for us) and we don't want to have to heat the whole place with the furnace, so are
getting one for there to be able to just heat the room we are in.
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And in the San Felipe area - check out Valle Chico area |
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Rather than going to the expense of pursuing one of the good options offered here, i would just spend the money to find a way to get some good
firewood out to your place. You already have a wood burning stove and they do work great IMHO...
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bajabass
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My wife bought a propane heater like the one Bajalou described. Dual adj. fans, with a thermostat. They work very well for small places, just keep a
widow cracked.
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dianaji
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
I am in a 5th wheel here in SF so use the oven also.
But we got a place in New Mexico that is pretty good size (at least for us) and we don't want to have to heat the whole place with the furnace, so are
getting one for there to be able to just heat the room we are in. |
can u tell me where u got the heater and/or the model?
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Borregoman
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I saw one of those roll around units with the 5 gallon tank in it Bajlou in Cedar City for $150 at Home Depot, should have picked it up as they are
$250 online.
I love the diesel option Arrowhead, they have some cool ones online, I could swap out one of the wood stoves and use the flue for the kerosene heater.
God knows diesel is cheap....Here is a website with some...
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dianaji
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wow! i would love that, cause i could move it from room to room! will check HD today.
thanks diana
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