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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 05:50 PM
Barrilete or bonito?




This one is a barrilete, or Black Skipjack. There are fair numbers in the SOC near Loreto. Last summer we saw a modern seiner, using a helicopter spotter, net a school of these. Probably to be ground up. Their flesh is very dark, and while some Mexicans will eat them, often in salads, they are often released. Most gringos won't have anything to do with them. Great light tackle fighters that often go easily over 10 lbs. They will hit trolled jigs, cast lures of live bait. Many times I have seen them called "bonito." But the black spots on the belly indicate they are barrilete. Jose Torres calls them "cat paws" from the shape of the black marks.




Sometimes we'll catch one like this. But not nearly as often. I believe this is a bonito, perhaps an Eastern Pacific Bonito, although Kira's site states they are not found in the SOC north of La Paz. These are not nearly as common as the barrilete in the Loreto area, imo. I haven't killed one but I've been told by one captain that they are much, much better to eat than the barrilete, with a lighter colored meat. Often found in the same places as barrilete; twice this fall I've caught both in the same place, same day.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 05:54 PM


DA: thanks for posting some pics of fish and talking about fishing. We should do this more often.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 06:01 PM


Cut the dark meat away from a fresh bonito fillet, fry it up with butter, onion, and garlic! Yummy. Catch one on a trout rod with 4lb line. Mini wahoo. :yes:
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 06:10 PM


Used one to catch my 265lb Blue Marlin. Ran it live on a C hook in the middle between two hoochies on either side.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 06:12 PM


I used to catch many bonito in Southern California waters in the 60s. They were very abundant, far more than the bonito or barrilete available around here now. Always a favorite gamefish of mine, wonderful on light tackle and beautiful when they come to color. But my mother had little patience for them, and never seemed to want to eat them, preferring calicos, rockfish and halibut.

Me, I'm not a fish eater. I fished today, Paula's having some of the yellowtail snapper and I'm having a couple of pork chops.:lol:
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 06:44 PM


Mainly used as bait or to find the good eating fish. I have made tuna salad with them though.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 07:11 PM


Just remember that bonito have no markings on their bellies as skipjack do, so don't confuse the two - bonito if bleed out and iced down are very good eating. The other fish often confused with bonito and skipjack are Kawakawa - sometimes referred to as white bonito - it is in the skipjack tuna family, however, they have a white mouth as compared to other tunas that have a black mouth and are very good eating.

[Edited on 12-9-2009 by mulegejim]
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 08:11 PM


The bottom one sure looks like a bonito. But different from the ones I remember catching off the Redondo barge. The one below is how they looked. The stripes on the back didn't go front to back. They went diagonally from the lateral line to the back. Is that how you remember them?

There may be considerable variability in this species and stock in the cortez may be genetically different than what we see in So Cal.

BTW you can see markings on the belly of this bonito as well.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 08:53 PM


Bonito have teeth, Skipjack don't.



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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:01 PM


There are two subspecies of Pacific bonito that I can find, Pacific bonito and Eastern Pacific bonito. The range and description of the Pacific Bonito seem to match the ones I caught off Redondo, Catalina, Anacapa, etc. The one I caught today seems to be closer to Kira's description of an Eastern Pacific bonito.

And the Black Skipjack/Barrilete is different from the skipjack caught on the San Diego tuna boats among the albacore.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:04 PM


Another skippy.

One thing that's really obvious between the two species is that boundary separating the head from stripes. It goes so much further back in the skipjacks. It's almost like 2 patches of skin coming together there.

Just my 2 cents.

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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:08 PM


comitan is right, bonito have teeth, skipjack don't ...bonito are really really good eating...skipjack are really really bad eating...



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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:10 PM


I have seen bonito over here that have the black spots on the belly, just like the skippies.

The teeth are the dead giveaway; bonito have teeth.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:16 PM


one of the places we go the bonito are 5-1 while fishing for jurel. the strike gets the heart rate skipping a beat, but then there's no pay off.

although the panguero wants theM for his lobster/cabrilla traps....

we usually say, "P-nche MACKEREL GRANDE!!!!!":rolleyes:

[Edited on 12-9-2009 by woody in ob]




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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:27 PM


I used to say something like that about the Pacific Bonito I used to catch off So Cal.

These bonito in the Sea are much tastier.




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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 09:45 PM


I believe you've got it, Don.

Check this out:

http://www.fishbase.org/search.php

1. Search by common name.
2. enter 'bonito' for search.
3. Then sort by country

You'll see lots of bonitos that are found in US waters. If you play with the all suitable range map it will show you which species goes all the way up the coast to oregon at times and which species is from the cortez south.

Striped bonito (Sarda Orientalis):
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=114

Eastern Pacific Bonito (Sarda chiliensis chiliensis):
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=113

Although why they would not call call Eastern Bonito 'orientalis' is confusing.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 10:25 PM


If it is a Bonito it will have some substantial teeth. They are excellent eating cooked or raw. Their meat is white but a Skippy has dark flesh.
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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 10:31 PM


Bonita... you guys are spelling it wrong!





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[*] posted on 12-8-2009 at 10:46 PM


Here's a Skippy!





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[*] posted on 12-9-2009 at 12:42 AM


Don Alley's pictured bonito: Sarda Orientalis (striped bonito)

Catalina, Anacapa, Socal bonito: Sarda chiliensis chiliensis (pacific bonito)

That's an oceanic skipjack, Fishbuck. Uncommon in baja. I caught some in the central pacific. They are really beautiful. The guys on Kon Tiki would get them from the raft.
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