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LoyeB
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Cannabis and Baja
Ok I was reading there was a new law passed in Aug for Mexico that allowed small/personal use of marijuana. For those of you that are 420 friendly
have you had any problems driving through the border going south with some herb. A buddy of mine told me that a lot of places have drug dogs now, even
going southbound. Are the cops/military familiar with this law ?
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David K
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Do it and report back what you find out!  
Seriously, Baja is a 'drug' and you don't need anything else!
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arrowhead
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1) It is still illegal to import mota into Mexico.
2) It is still illegal to possess mota in the US, under federal laws, and the people at the border are enforcing federal laws.
3) Mexico really did not decriminalize mota, they have a drug diversion program for those who are caught with a small amount and who are not selling
it.
4) Those possession laws you read about in Mexico are for Mexicans...e.g tourists still go to jail. The Mexicans are not the least bit interested in
running Americans through their drug diversion programs.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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woody with a view
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yeah, good luck trying to explain the law to a cop!!!
if you must pack it DEEP and only puff when you arrive at your destination, not while traveling, and only away from others who may "drop a dime!"
in other words, it aint worth it!
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Mexicorn
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Just buy it when you get to your destination. It's not like their going to run out of pot.
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Dave
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Not a problem
| Quote: | Originally posted by LoyeB
For those of you that are 420 friendly have you had any problems driving through the border going south with some herb. |
Please disregard the other posters.
I'd bring a kilo. I have friends who work at the border who can guarantee a free pass. Just tell me when you plan to cross, give a description of your
vehicle with plate number and I'll pass it along.
BTW, What's 420?
You're a surfer, right? 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Please disregard the other posters.
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Yeah...they know nuthin'. The law says, you can have a forty foot trailer full of dope or, now get this, on the water a landing barge piled four
feet above the rail with...the law says, "Good chiit." Bad chiit and you got a problem.
So...be careful.
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Packoderm
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No, they're still fighting the war on drugs. I think they're just now turning a corner and starting to win. We should be completely rid of the stuff
any time now.
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bajaguy
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Doper Talk
Dave, it's doper talk for marijuana.....
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=420%20friendl...
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bajalorena
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Are you crazy?
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalorena
Are you crazy? |
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Pretty much, .......you get that way by smoking weed....another good reason to legalize drug use......
Going to get popcorn now,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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mojo_norte
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Just buy from any surfer
Seriously- forget about bringing or buying. The local cops/ military will haul your ass off to jail.
Tequila !
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Mexicorn
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Just bring your Rx card with you. You can transport up to one 1/2 Kilo anywhere in Mexico. Really-
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ELINVESTIG8R
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MEXICO IS NOT 420 FRIENDLY
| Quote: | Originally posted by LoyeB
Ok I was reading there was a new law passed in Aug for Mexico that allowed small/personal use of marijuana. For those of you that are 420 friendly
have you had any problems driving through the border going south with some herb. A buddy of mine told me that a lot of places have drug dogs now, even
going southbound. Are the cops/military familiar with this law ? |
LoyeB this could be you. Of course, Your picture will be a much closer shot of you with your three finger lid.
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gnukid
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In Mex and USA we are in the middle of a new experiment, the enforcement has changed, in both USA and Mex the gov has changed their stance and this is
a significant, Rohm Emanuel said that in the US we will not prosecute federal laws for possession of small quantities, perhaps this is the sole "bone"
given to placate and drug the plebeians while providing uniform legal code across North America.
In every county in California it is legal to buy for medical purposes and required by the Gov of every county to offer a legal registration office and
reg card. In Baja it is understandable that addicts use and possess. The clear action now is selling is illegal while possession is an acceptable
symptom of addiction. This experiment has resulted in psuedo-sanctioned dealers who deliver and have locations which is an odd and yet expected
result. In fact I heard on the major radio station this week, si necesitas comprar drugas anonymo llamas ###-###-#### which I may have misunderstood
but it certainly seemed clear that there are many acceptable routes. So now all enforcement is focused on crimes with victims not on addicts. Though,
I know nothing about this at all from my own experience.
Here are two anecdotes:
I saw a kid standing on the corner obviously waiting to buy, the police passed by and said "Que haces?"
He replied, "buscando coca." They replied "Bueno que no vendas, adios."
I saw a guy who bought in front of cops (like an idiot) and they said "are you selling drugs?" he said "no I am buying mota but I sell Camarones."
They replied, "bien adios."
So the point is now in both countries enforcement of possession is not enforced federally and in some cases not enforced by state and in both Federal
regions there is a clearly defined Federal legal possession route if you follow the route. In CA, NM, etc..., say, "I have a medical need", in Mex
say, "I am an addict. I told my parents" (regardless of your age).
[Edited on 12-16-2009 by gnukid]
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Martyman
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Loyeb;
Sorry about the abuse. There are a few on here that need a toke to mellow out! Most of them are heavy boozers, ya know the cheap mexican stuff with
the beehive.
Just bring a small amount and no ,you won't be able to buy it there, unless it's from a gringo. Most of the old retired gringo farts puff but are too
drunk to remember.
Some people sink a film canister in their peanut butter...
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Martyman
Loyeb;
Sorry about the abuse. There are a few on here that need a toke to mellow out! Most of them are heavy boozers, ya know the cheap mexican stuff with
the beehive.
Just bring a small amount and no ,you won't be able to buy it there, unless it's from a gringo. Most of the old retired gringo farts puff but are too
drunk to remember.
Some people sink a film canister in their peanut butter...
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Oh, I REALLY hope he/she follows your advice...
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Just remember marihuana detector dogs will detect your 420 no matter where you stash it. I used to have detector dogs under my control long ago and I
know firsthand how sensitive their smell is. You could put 420 into a bottle of raw sewage and they will detect it. No fooling them. Just for the
record I do not drink alcoholic beverages or smoke 420.
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toneart
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Gnu,
I wouldn't use the word "addict" for marijuana users. In one example of street person-police dialogue the guy made reference to "Coco". Different
terminology should be applied to that and the two should not be run together.
As to the question of this topic: As a gringo, get as far away from any kind of drug. You have no legal rights and no protection. You are guilty until
proven innocent. It is an invitation for extortion from you and your family and also potential police abuse. Who's to know?
As a non-reactionary supporter of medicinal marijuana in California, I would still say, don't do it in Mexico. Furthermore, you are in effect,
propping up the Cartels' reason for existence. That perpetrates the cycle of violence. That is what is immoral about it; not the toking per se.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Gnu,
I wouldn't use the word "addict" for marijuana users. In one example of street person-police dialogue the guy made reference to "Coco". Different
terminology should be applied to that and the two should not be run together.
As to the question of this topic: As a gringo, get as far away from any kind of drug. You have no legal rights and no protection. You are guilty until
proven innocent. It is an invitation for extortion from you and your family and also potential police abuse. Who's to know?
As a non-reactionary supporter of medicinal marijuana in California, I would still say, don't do it in Mexico. Furthermore, you are in effect,
propping up the Cartels' reason for existence. That perpetrates the cycle of violence. That is what is immoral about it; not the toking per se.
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I am telling you the current legal stance in Mex according to every news and gov agency as well as was covered in the Turtle thread if you paid
attention, which by the way has been accepted legally for more than 5 years and is now the Federal law: Mex Marijuana Users must state "I am an
addict. (I told my parents)" Then you can begin a long rehabilitation free from prosecution.
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