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Loretana
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Major Shake-Up at Loreto Migracion
Apparently our migracion office here in Loreto was hit by an investigation into corrupt practices......and Honorio and Oscar are being detained in La
Paz by Federal authorities!
Uh-oh!! 
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
Apparently our migracion office here in Loreto was hit by an investigation into corrupt practices......and Honorio and Oscar are being detained in La
Paz by Federal authorities!
Uh-oh!! |
And this suprises you ?
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Hook
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That they were detained............yes, that surprises me.
The Guaymas office could use a house-cleaning, too.
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Loretana
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
And this suprises you ? |
Who said anything about being surprised?
I'm just reporting on something that affects most of the Americans and Canadians living here in Loreto and the surrounding area.
We have all dealt with Honorio and/or Oscar at one time or another. 
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Sounds really bad to me.
What we see depends mainly on what we look for.
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djh
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FOR ME...
I can only speak for myself, but for me, the LTO INM Office has been fair, honest, and mostly efficient (occasionally a little slower than I'd hoped,
but.... compared to my US Passport renewal . . . a breeze !).
Honario, especially, has been helpful to me with his good English and friendly attitude.
For the first time I am having my (mid-January) FM3 Renewal done by a very good and trusted local Loreto friend. I hope this does not create problems
for her or for my renewal processing !
I hope it gets sorted out and the Loreto office doesn't get too bogged down.
djh
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
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Transfer???
Maybe the Immigration guy from Ensenada will be transferred down to sort out the Loreto office....
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Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
Apparently our migracion office here in Loreto was hit by an investigation into corrupt practices......and Honorio and Oscar are being detained in La
Paz by Federal authorities!
Uh-oh!! |
While I had good experiences with our local office I also had my share of bad experience$.
Remember about a year ago I had a group of four guys fly in to LTO and they were charged $1,000 US cash? It was our buddies at INM that intimidated
them and took their money. They held their US Passport$ until it was paid. This particular incident pi$$es me off to no end, this is what they think
of touri$m, the lifeline of this town! If I were a citizen then I would have made a denuncia then but my hand$ were tied then because I was still on
an FM. Today I am going in to report this incident among other things.
They alway$ demanded ca$h for payment$ on renewal$ or any tramite$ and that is not legal as everyone knows the payment$ must be made at the bank. If
you were unfortunate enough to have a renewal near the Christma$$$ holiday$ you could be sure it will co$t you more for obviou$ rea$on$. I always
thanked the stars mine was in may. But now that I am done I will be happy to cooperate and give any evidence from the ten years I was in the system.
Anyone notice the rigs these guy$ drive? They weren't paid enough by the government to buy tho$e. They got them through mordida and extortion.
Funcionarios (government workers) are not above the law. These guys abused their position and must be held responsible. bastard$
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FFP: do you think that they were 'abusing' their positions more than the typical INM office or is there a lowing of the threshold of what's
acceptable?
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Apparently they tried to extort money from the wrong person. A gringo married to a Mexican citizen whose brother was an attorney in Mexico City who
blew the whistle on them and all hell broke loose. Glad someone had the guts to do that. They always manage to get "something extra" from us when we
renew our FM3's.
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Loretana
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
Apparently they tried to extort money from the wrong person. A gringo married to a Mexican citizen whose brother was an attorney in Mexico City who
blew the whistle on them and all hell broke loose. Glad someone had the guts to do that. They always manage to get "something extra" from us when we
renew our FM3's.
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Nick has the facts absolutely right, with his posting above.
Back in September, I had to renew my FM-3 a month early, because I needed to get back home to Oregon and couldn't be in Loreto the week before my FM-3
expired. Honorio charged me an extra $99.00 (US funds, of course) plus the renewal fee to stamp the FM-3 for another year.
He never gave me a receipt, and I knew there was no point in asking for one. From what I've been told, we won't have to deal with the "dear boy"
ever again. I thought he was an arrogant little rooster, and good riddance, IMHO. 
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Marie-Rose
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Hopefully at some point you will get over your negative experience of time in Baja Ron.
The fact that someone blew the whistle and it is being investigated is a very good thing!!
| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
Apparently our migracion office here in Loreto was hit by an investigation into corrupt practices......and Honorio and Oscar are being detained in La
Paz by Federal authorities!
Uh-oh!! |
And this suprises you ? |
 
Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
maybe!
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LaTijereta
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
Nick has the facts absolutely right, with his posting above.
Back in September, I had to renew my FM-3 a month early, because I needed to get back home to Oregon and couldn't be in Loreto the week before my FM-3
expired. Honorio charged me an extra $99.00 (US funds, of course) plus the renewal fee to stamp the FM-3 for another year.
He never gave me a receipt, and I knew there was no point in asking for one. From what I've been told, we won't have to deal with the "dear boy"
ever again. I thought he was an arrogant little rooster, and good riddance, IMHO. |
FM-3 renewls can start upto 30 days before they expire.. So there should have been no added fees needed
Democracy is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
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i only know Sr. Jose Rios who is in charge of IMSS at the Guaymas airport.
one of the friendliest and most honest mex gov worker i have ever had the pleasure of working with or meeting. a very classy act who is always willing
to help you if there is a problem - never asked for a dime extra.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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Loretana
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update
I have been told by a reliable source that Honorio and Oscar were taken down by a "sting" operation that involved a local artist and the Immigration
Authorities from the La Paz office, which has jurisdiction over Loreto.
If anyone, as Pam reported, had seen how "flamante" Honorio was acting, with new trucks, Harley motorcycles, and a lifestyle that was well beyond his
means, it would have been quite obvious that something was up. 
It was reported that he and Oscar overcharged a permit applicant and were caught "red-handed" with marked money.
Someone in La Paz is probably skinning a knuckle on their heads right now. 
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I dunno about that, but I was at the La Paz office for renewal this morning.
Place was packed, which I expected since they beigin holiday hiatus tomorrow, and short handed. Polite and helpful as they have always been.
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oldlady
I dunno about that, but I was at the La Paz office for renewal this morning.
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I thought after you become elderly renewals weren't required anymore. NO?
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
I have been told by a reliable source that Honorio and Oscar were taken down by a "sting" operation that involved a local artist and the Immigration
Authorities from the La Paz office, which has jurisdiction over Loreto.
If anyone, as Pam reported, had seen how "flamante" Honorio was acting, with new trucks, Harley motorcycles, and a lifestyle that was well beyond his
means, it would have been quite obvious that something was up.
It was reported that he and Oscar overcharged a permit applicant and were caught "red-handed" with marked money.
Someone in La Paz is probably skinning a knuckle on their heads right now.
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Is it not public information what happens to these people? Are their ill-gotten gains removed and do they serve time? Is it possible to actually
follow this case to it's end? Over and over we hear of the bad guys being arrested but then zippo after that. Por que?
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Loretana
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Here is a link to the article posted on el sudcaliforniano.com.mx today. Everyone in town is talking about this.
My guess is that they will lose their goverment jobs, be consigned and pay fianzas and be released from custody.
The word "on the street" is that they are pointing the finger at four other funcionarios as well. Tsk, tsk. 
<<http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n1441102.htm>>
(The crime mentioned in the article is "cohecho" which means bribery.)
[Edited on 12-17-2009 by Loretana]
[Edited on 12-17-2009 by Loretana]
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