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Baja cities' Tourist Police forces aim to revive tourism
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14024593
By ELLIOT SPAGAT
Associated Press
12/18/2009
SAN DIEGO—Mexican cities south of the California border on Friday marked the launch of the new Metropolitan Tourist Police in an effort to regain the
confidence of Americans looking for lobster dinners, cheap margaritas and pristine beaches.
Twenty-two police officers from Tijuana, Playas de Rosarito and Ensenada were recognized for completing a one-day course at the San Diego police
academy to prepare for the April 1 launch of the new force, a joint effort of the cities to patrol a 70-mile stretch of Pacific coastline.
Mexican officials hope San Diego's involvement will provide a boost after three years of drug-fueled violence that has kept many Americans away.
The ceremony occurred amid a surge of killings in Tijuana—66 during the first half of December—that some experts say could spell the end of a truce
between crime boss Fernando Sanchez Arellano and a former lieutenant, Teodoro Garcia Simental.
"It won't be magic, but at least we're trying," William Yu, Tijuana's liaison for binational affairs, told the officers Thursday as he prepared them
for the ceremony.
San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said during Friday's event at the city's police headquarters that the new force should ease tourists' understandable
concerns about safety.
The officers, who will have their own uniforms and cars, said they liked a visit during the class to a simulated shooting range in which they were
asked to react to threatening scenarios played on a video screen.
San Diego police Sgt. David Landman also drew on training material that is widely used by California law enforcement agencies, including role-playing
techniques with an emphasis on how to treat people respectfully.
Landman, who oversees training for veteran San Diego officers, quizzed the officers often.
"If a police officer runs a stop sign, it sends a very bad signal to the people," one said.
"You must practice what you preach, set an example for the people," another chimed in.
The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities for the special force, which is expected to eventually have 350
officers. Playas de Rosarito, widely known as Rosarito Beach, will begin with 30 officers. Tijuana expects to start with about 60.
Some Mexican officials and American expatriates said the region has been unfairly tarnished, partly by recycled media reports of violence against
tourists more than two years ago. Officials said the vast majority of murder victims were small-time drug dealers caught in turf battles.
The battered tourism industry remains an economic pillar of Mexico's northern Baja California peninsula.
Yet in Rosarito Beach, authorities estimated the number of visitors during the high season of April to November slid 70 percent from 2005 to 2009.
Tourism accounts for about 60 percent of the economy in the city of 130,000 people.
Traffic on a toll road popular with tourists fell 18 percent to 6.2 million vehicles from January through October compared to the same period last
year, according to Tijuana's tourism board.
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nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet. |
Nattering naboob of negativism.
"People don't like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges"
Thanks for the newsflash.
"Even if they are Mexican bodies."
YIKES!!!!
I think this is a good move by the Mexican authorities! This kind of stuff is needed.
"The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities." Excellent!
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by k-rico]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet. |
Nattering naboob of negativism.
"People don't like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges"
Thanks for the newsflash.
"Even if they are Mexican bodies."
YIKES!!!!
I think this is a good move by the Mexican authorities! This kind of stuff is needed.
"The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities." Excellent!
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by k-rico] |
Come on, get real. Get honest. Those three reasons are exactly the reason no one is coming to Rosarito (or buying real estate).
In Rosarito the Tourist Police don't speak English, they aren't "special police" at all- they simply get the "plum" assignment at the shift duty desk
as a reward. If they are so focused on tourism- why is it they always have locals in the back they are shaking down- oh yeah, no tourists.
The Tourist Police in Rosarito are a joke and have been a joke for the year they have been in operation here. They are just part of the Rosarito
propaganda machine. This isn't the start of a new program it's just the Rosarito spin so you think they are progressing. I can guarantee you I
learned more in my "Laugh and Learn" CA DMV education class than those guys did. Stopping at stop signs- GMAFB!
Now they have moved up to the Three Monkey stage... hear, see and speak no evil. They should just shut up- or report what is really happening in
town... The city is a ghost town and crime is rampant. All stores are suggested to close by 7pm due to the crime. And no one stateside has reported
the bloodbath now taking place in Rosarito as they try to get TEO, who is hiding out here.
I don't know where you live- but I live in the middle of it- and I'm sticking with my viewpoint.
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That same Rosarito spin machine was at work last summer with the lifeguard tower donations from IB... remember? After all the hubub and begging for
donations- they removed graffiti and painted just one (for their promotion ad). They trained one guard for the six towers, never added stairs to the
other five towers, never manned the towers and then never moved the towers back from the surf when the tides rose.
I had to contact IB myself through the UT to get them to pressure Rosarito into moving this tower back before it floated back. Of course it's the only
one they moved- the others will be floating home soon...
The UT wanted run this op-ed letter I wrote- but I said no. I'm not anti-Rosarito, I'm just tired of there being no real progress, just spin for a
media bump. Spin is easier to produce than change in the third world.
Hope you enjoy it Rosarito spin-worshippers. Go ahead and check the old thread from July on the Lifeguard Towers and see who was right. Me.
"Dear Imperial Beach,
Thank you so much for my summer in Rosarito Beach, but I am returning home. My floating time north should be about three days. As you can see I
still have graffiti- I was never painted or even got stairs. I was just happy to get legs and that they opened me up for whole 4 days last summer so
I could breathe. I was so lonely. Please look for me back home on my beach soon! I need the love and respect.
Sincerely yours,
Imperial Beach/Rosarito Beach Lifeguard Tower #8580"
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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It will work if the folks up in the States have enough money to spend.. not sure after the loss of over "6 million jobs" in the past year alone will
afford much recovery for the United States, let alone Baja.... just my two cents...
Add on, just what can one do in Tijuana/Rosarito for the day? Medical, Dental, bull whips, tattoo cafe's, internet cafe, brothels, strip clubs, fire
crackers, eat..... or are they coming down to fish?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet. |
Nattering naboob of negativism.
"People don't like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges"
Thanks for the newsflash.
"Even if they are Mexican bodies."
YIKES!!!!
I think this is a good move by the Mexican authorities! This kind of stuff is needed.
"The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities." Excellent!
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by k-rico] |
I don't know where you live- but I live in the middle of it |
Tijuana
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Bitter old man who has painted himself into a corner
Now who does that best describe?
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet. |
Nattering naboob of negativism.
"People don't like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges"
Thanks for the newsflash.
"Even if they are Mexican bodies."
YIKES!!!!
I think this is a good move by the Mexican authorities! This kind of stuff is needed.
"The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities." Excellent!
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by k-rico] |
I don't know where you live- but I live in the middle of it |
Tijuana |
Shame on you then- you have eyes and ears. Open them and see the truth and reality. It's going to get much more violent between TEO and AFO. What's
the body count in your neighborhood this week?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Bitter old man who has painted himself into a corner
Now who does that best describe? |
Not sure. I'm not that old and not at all bitter- so I'm hoping it's the other guy Gull. 
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Bitter old man who has painted himself into a corner
Now who does that best describe? |
Not sure. I'm not that old and not at all bitter- so I'm hoping it's the other guy Gull.
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by Woooosh] |
Still playing that "mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest..." game, are you? 
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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I guess your "high" mood is right-on then.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Better than being trapped in a self-proclaimed ghetto because of low income and family.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet. |
Nattering naboob of negativism.
"People don't like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges"
Thanks for the newsflash.
"Even if they are Mexican bodies."
YIKES!!!!
I think this is a good move by the Mexican authorities! This kind of stuff is needed.
"The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities." Excellent!
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by k-rico] |
I don't know where you live- but I live in the middle of it |
Tijuana |
Shame on you then- you have eyes and ears. Open them and see the truth and reality. It's going to get much more violent between TEO and AFO. What's
the body count in your neighborhood this week? |
hohoho - "shame on you"
"Open them and see the truth and reality."
Please, will you stop.
Now you got me angry
I know full well what's going on and of course I'm disappointed.
But I'm really disappointed with your "Even if they are Mexican bodies" comment.
The last thing I'm going to do is give the opinions of people who make such comments any consideration. Their thinking is clouded by
hate.
You owe an apology to the Mexicans, Mexican-Americans, and the compassionate Americans who read this message board.
Open your eyes.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
nothing like a one day seminar to revive tourism to our pristine beaches. They taught them high-school driver's ed: "running a stop sign sets a very
bad example"- yeah, that's why tourism is down. 66 dead so far this month is a better reason along with economic and border issues. People don't
like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges- even if they are Mexican bodies.
Rosarito lost 70% of it's business slowly- over four years (2005-2009). It didn't happen overnight- it was a progression that was predictable.
Rosarito has a huge propaganda machine, but sticking their heads in the their far from pristine sand and blaming the media hasn't gotten them anywhere
yet. |
Nattering naboob of negativism.
"People don't like their kids to see mangled bodies hanging from busy bridges"
Thanks for the newsflash.
"Even if they are Mexican bodies."
YIKES!!!!
I think this is a good move by the Mexican authorities! This kind of stuff is needed.
"The officers will return to Mexico to train colleagues in each of the three cities." Excellent!
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by k-rico] |
I don't know where you live- but I live in the middle of it |
Tijuana |
Shame on you then- you have eyes and ears. Open them and see the truth and reality. It's going to get much more violent between TEO and AFO. What's
the body count in your neighborhood this week? |
hohoho - "shame on you"
"Open them and see the truth and reality."
Please, will you stop.
Now you got me angry
I know full well what's going on and of course I'm disappointed.
But I'm really disappointed with your "Even if they are Mexican bodies" comment.
The last thing I'm going to do is give the opinions of people who make such comments any consideration. Their thinking is clouded by
hate.
You owe an apology to the Mexicans, Mexican-Americans, and the compassionate Americans who read this message board.
Open your eyes. |
Geesh that's a lot of quotes. I should have made myself more clear. The common spin is that Narco violence is just between gangs and American
tourists aren't in danger and aren't being targeted. I don't agree with that, but that's another thread (already started after the American lady was
killed in a TJ restaurant yesterday). What I said is having to look at a dead hanging body is bad enough. They don't have to be gringo or tourist
bodies to be a tourism deterrent for sure:
From the Union Tribune...
"Dear Editor,
Your Saturday front page story "Mexican marines criticized for shootings" did little to explain how a heavily armed narco convoy of SUV's could
disappear from the tourist-heavy toll road between Rosarito Beach and the Lobster Village (Puerto Nuevo) on a Sunday afternoon- let alone how the
Mexican Marines could mistake a single Jeep off-roading for that convoy and open fire on the youths inside. That same day both free roads to Rosarito
Beach from Tijuana and Otay Mesa had mutilated bodies hanging from the bridges. It may be statistically safe for tourists to visit Rosarito Beach-
but the memories and visuals of a trip to Rosarito Beach could take a family a lifetime of therapy to overcome and is hardly worth the deep fried
lobster at the other end. "
I agree 1000 percent. Chuck your meds if you don't Gull.
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by Woooosh]
[Edited on 12-19-2009 by Woooosh]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Still playing that "mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest..." game, are you? |
Geeze Gull. You and k-rico and a few other sycophants are slipping. It usually only takes you guys a few minutes to discover -- totally after the fact
-- some connection to drugs for every American killed or injured in Baja. That way you can keep your mantra "it's only those connected with the drug
trade".
It's really pathetic that not only are these innocent people being killed, but they are lulled into a false sense of security by "experts" like you
guys. Then when they die, you mock their deaths by connecting them to the drug trade.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Still playing that "mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest..." game, are you? |
Geeze Gull. You and k-rico and a few other sycophants are slipping. It usually only takes you guys a few minutes to discover -- totally after the fact
-- some connection to drugs for every American killed or injured in Baja. That way you can keep your mantra "it's only those connected with the drug
trade".
It's really pathetic that not only are these innocent people being killed, but they are lulled into a false sense of security by "experts" like you
guys. Then when they die, you mock their deaths by connecting them to the drug trade. |
Thanks pointy head. I thought it was only me who thought those two were going over the edge. It did distract from my great lifeguard tower photo and
emphasis on the misdirected Rosarito Spin Machine.
A lot of lonely people get cranky this week as Christmas arrives. I have the MIL in the house- so that's my excuse.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Still playing that "mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the fairest..." game, are you? |
Geeze Gull. You and k-rico and a few other sycophants are slipping. It usually only takes you guys a few minutes to discover -- totally after the fact
-- some connection to drugs for every American killed or injured in Baja. That way you can keep your mantra "it's only those connected with the drug
trade".
It's really pathetic that not only are these innocent people being killed, but they are lulled into a false sense of security by "experts" like you
guys. Then when they die, you mock their deaths by connecting them to the drug trade. |
What drug are you on?
Please provide me the posts where I linked American tourist deaths to the drug trade.
Where have I published this "mantra" you write about?
Where have I mocked their deaths by connecting them to the drug trade?
How did I lull that American woman into that restaurant for tacos?
Please keep your reputation intact and fail to respond to my exact request for you to supply proof of your claim. Be specific, as you are a well
established blowhard on this board.
An American woman married to a Mexican National living in TJ should not have had her life ended in violence in a Otay Mesa restaurant. Neither should
over a dozen teenagers and younger people be caught in gang and domestic dispute crossfires all over Southern California in the last two months. Does
geography mean that much when innocent people die because of crimes being conducted?
It is uncontrolled emotional outbursts from unstable people like you, that adds nothing to the world. Been screaming fire in any theaters, lately?
Most of the sky in your area has fallen?
If you can't back-up your vitriolic comments toward me and others, maybe you need to take a "timeout" in your room and come back out when you can play
nice with others.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
Where have I mocked their deaths by connecting them to the drug trade? |
First of all Gull, I said it was you and your sychophants who mock the dead Americans. Your particular style is sarcasm. Whenever something bad
happens to an American, you come in with some asinine comment to try to minimalize or mock it. For instance, when that 19-year old kid that drove the
meat truck turned up dead on the beach in TJ, what was your brilliant comment? Do you remember? You asked if his hair was red. The poor kid's mother
is flying in from the East Coast to collect his body, and that was your contribution to the dialogue?
And as for your sychophants, here is what they said about the poor dead kid, to defile his death:
| Quote: | k-rico posted on 4-2-2009 at 10:07 PM
I've been doing google news searches about this story because I'm interested in what happened and nothing new has shown up. The Orange County Register
ran a news story, no new information, but you should read the reader's comments. 99% believe this is some poor innocent kid who fell prey to murderous
Mexicans. Like he was killed just for being in Mexico. Most posters are condemning the whole country of Mexico because of this.
I think there's a good chance this kid was up to no good and mixed it up with the wrong folks in the drug/prostitute zone. But maybe not. Perhaps he
drove the meat wagon into TJ and was killed when someone tried to steal it while he was in it. Also, he was found on the dead on the beach. Of all the
murders in TJ in the past few years, he's the first one found on the beach.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37955&pag... |
| Quote: | bajabound2005 posted on 4-1-2009 at 02:11 AM
I have a problem with this thread's Subject...how do we know he was a "Tourist"? Nothing in any of the news articles describes him as a "toursit".
There is a lot missing from this story. |
...and as for you, you have already explained where your alleigences lie...with the guy that brings you your Pacifico:
| Quote: | The Gull posted on 5-1-2008 at 01:54 PM
Lera,
I was encouraging people to come to Baja to enjoy some of the places and things that whizz by the window too often when they come down. If they cannot
open their minds to the possibilities, it is their loss. The extreme lack of Gringo visitor while a blessing in many ways, is still hurting the
average local in what was already a marginal quality of life.
Extra bonus points to you for reading my posts and concluding that there are bad boys who must act like children on this section of the board. The
board monitoring normally gets them wiped off before long. But the attacks continue under the thin veils of some self justified "convictions".
For many months there was the incessant rehashing of US newspaper tripe over sporatic Baja major crime incidents over more than a year of locals on
locals. Worse occur daily in the US. When I raised the spectrum of the involvement of the US in the drug demand and the world's leader in violent
crime, I got the label of anti-American and cowardly piling on became the norm on the board. |
"Worse occurs daily in the US?" Worse than a few heads found every day? Worse than people hanging naked from bridges over the autopistas? Worse than
guys walking into restaurants with automatic weapons and straffing everybody. Daily? In the US?
Do you happen to have any links to prove that up? Please keep your reputation intact and fail to respond to my exact request for you to supply proof
of your claim.
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Gull has sycophants????
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Gull has sycophants???? |
I doubt if Gull even wears phants.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
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