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[*] posted on 1-13-2010 at 07:09 PM
Grouper Grande


Neighbor caught a 130#+ Grouper off Santa Nezz yesterday. Am trying to get pics for Nomad. Every body is eating grouper tonite:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 1-14-2010 at 09:36 AM
like this one?


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[*] posted on 1-14-2010 at 10:01 AM


That's a beauty!
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[*] posted on 1-14-2010 at 04:13 PM


Wow! A sea monster for sure!



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[*] posted on 1-14-2010 at 06:28 PM


Attention Two Dogs!

I betcha that's the Mirrolure-grabbing monster. Remember all those lures we lost to that guy?

Well, some bigger one will probably take it's place...EGADS! what am I saying?!

[Edited on 1-20-2010 by Pompano]




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[*] posted on 1-14-2010 at 06:35 PM


Wrong grouper Probably had several of your lures Roger. South-southwest of Santa Nezz 90 to 199 ft water Jose as guide. Jose B as deckhand
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90 to 100 ft

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[*] posted on 1-14-2010 at 06:44 PM


Yup..wrong hole for our grouper. Ours is/was at about 50ft coming up a sheer wall to 25ft.

Actually I am glad to hear that it's not our fish. Because sometime between now and June I am going to get the brute to the boat and pluck our 7 or 8 mirrolures from it's maw before safely releasing it. But unfortunately they are probably hanging in his trophy room by now..ah well, that's fishin'

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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 07:34 AM


Catch and release ?:yes:
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 07:45 AM


Quote:
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Catch and release ?:yes:
Fillet and release.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 08:17 AM


Must have taken years for this fish to get to this size , good thing to kill it . :no: Would hate to see it under water while diving , better to see only little fish
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 08:28 AM
MERO


The Black Sea Bass (Stereolepis gigas) is a member of the Percichthyidae family of Sea Basses of which only one lives in Mexican waters. Due to overfishing which includes a vulnerability to spear fishermen, the species is considered to be an endangered species and we strongly recommend that it be handled as a “catch and release” species. In 2005 the Fish and Game Department of the State of California imposed a $1,000 fine and up to six months in jail for anyone in possession of a Black Sea Bass. [www.ifishmexico.com]

The Black Sea Bass can be confused with the Goliath Grouper or Jewfish, (Epinephelus itajara) (dorsal fin without a notch, rounded caudal fin). Because it is slow moving without a fear of man the Jewfish has also been taken by commercial spear fishermen and is now an endangered species. [www.mexfish.com]
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 08:54 AM


Not taking a stand here, one way or the other, but this is something to consider:

Over the eons, I understand that an est. 98% of all creatures that have graced our planet have gone extinct---------and probably one day it will be our turn. Could be that this is the natural "way of things".

I don't even pretend to know what is "right" here--------

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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 09:00 AM


Hard to confuse a Black Sea Bass and a jew fish WHEN THEY LIVE IN DIFFERENT OCEANS!!

OBTW...THe pictured fish is not a black sea bass(gulf grouper?)..and, it is not illegal to posses a black sea bass in CA, it is illegal to take one for sport. THe commercial gillnetters and long liners are allowed to take one incidental fish per trip...Go to the fish market every sat. in Ventura and buy some...it's delicious:biggrin:

We see them almost every day Urchin diving. in Ca, they have rebounded tremendously.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 09:38 AM


Mero or Black Sea Bass primarily occur on the other side of the peninsula like in the Abreojos areas. The fish that was caught at Santa Inez was a Baja Grouper which is a different species. Bill Erhardt and I had a long discussion about a year ago about how to release these fish but it takes a lot of preparation to have all the equipment not only available but ready to use. When these fish come up from anything over 60 feet, their swim bladder is fully extended and the only safe way to release is with a heavy weight that is attached to the fish and then is released when the fish gets to proper depth. Puncturing the air bladder leads to a serious mortality rate.
The fish is not very good to eat when they get to that size and usually are pretty full of worms which you can see if you put some salt on the uncooked meat.
While catch and release has beome very popular in the United States and Canada, the local fisherman think you are Looney Tunes to release a fish that brings 40 pesos per kilo. I have the release equipment in my boat and a clear understanding that I will release any more big groupers that come to my boat and will pay an estimated amount of market value for that fish. Because it is my boat, I am allowed to be a little extra LOONEY TUNES.




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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 11:38 AM


gotta agree with pesca; those big girls gotta be released!



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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 11:56 AM


Tell that to this guy


http://www.berkhome.com/abreojos/abreojos_photo.html
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 12:03 PM


We generally target known grouper holes in 25 to 50 ft of water. That way the option of catch and release is always availble to us.

Headed backto Baja now with new boat to recover those lost Mirrolures..

side note: Mike..what a world. I am writing this on my laptop using Verizon air card and battery power while decoying cornfed greenheads to this duckblind boat I just bought in Nebraska!

I can now paste this photo and viola...presto..from the duckblind.


Don'tcha just love modern technoloy?

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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 01:28 PM


"Most of these fish were caught with the help of the local fishing cooperative. The fish was then used by the local Abreojos cooperative to benefit the members"

This is total BS.

As though the fact that the coop benefitted justified the the act. This mindset is used by so many anglers, including nomads.

The bottom line is that the population of black seabass are affected the same way no matter where the meat ends up.

2 thumbs down Mr. Keith Berkley!!!

A San Diego angler should know better.

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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 01:32 PM


Beef ! That's whats for dinner ! :spingrin:
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[*] posted on 1-15-2010 at 02:06 PM


Don't believe everything you read. When you coming back to Campo Rene?


Quote:
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"Most of these fish were caught with the help of the local fishing cooperative. The fish was then used by the local Abreojos cooperative to benefit the members"

This is total BS.

As though the fact that the coop benefitted justified the the act. This mindset is used by so many anglers, including nomads.

The bottom line is that the population of black seabass are affected the same way no matter where the meat ends up.

2 thumbs down Mr. Keith Berkley!!!

A San Diego angler should know better.
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