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rjlaszlo
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Lots Available Camalu, On the Beach $ 19,950 USD
Hola,
If your looking for a new place to park your RV or trailer, take a look at our new park 60 Km North of San Quintin, near the town of Camalu Baja
Norte. Look for Km 166 right on the beach, 25 feet above mean high tide, and well beyond the areas hit hard by hurricanes etc. Here is the link to
he Viviun site where we have our primary listing:
http://www.viviun.com/AD-142067/
or
www.bajaforme.com
You can contact me at bajaforme@hotmail.com.
Thanks for looking, see you at the beach, Robert
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by rjlaszlo]
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fishbuck
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I looked at the photos. There is a Walmart in Camalu now? Wow, that was quick!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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rjlaszlo
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Walmart
Whats really cool is you hit the border at 8:00 am, Ensenada and shopping an hour and a half later, and your at the beach by noon. I really will miss
the 22 hour drive to Loreto, not.
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Donjulio
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I am just curious as to how you can offer lots in the federal zone for sale.
Also what stage of the subdivision process are you in?
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by Donjulio]
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Curt63
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All that glitters...
No worries
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longlegsinlapaz
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I'm more curious how you can associate the word "Generous" with the stated lot dimensions....as in "Generous 10M X 20M Lots"
that's only 200 sq meters!! Or was that a typo?
I hope your target market is Mexican nationals, because they're the only ones who can LEGALLY: "Fish, Dig For
Clams, Dive For Lobster" It was NOT legal for gringos to take shellfish, last I checked.
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fishbuck
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It's a 10 year lease for $19,950 for trailers.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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rjlaszlo
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Lots
Wow,
This board really has quite a bit of traffic! We sell lots held by the buyer as Mexican Possessions, until we have sold 60% of the properties, at
which time the Government normalizes the land and offers individual owners the option of obtaining individual titles. It's a very ordinary process in
Mexico, however not very well understood, even by knowledgeable Real Estate Agents. As far as the "All That Glitters" comment, well obviously their
happy where they are, enough said.
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Donjulio
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You said the lots were 25 feet from tide. Federal zone is 20 meters. Thats over 60 feet. You can't buy the Federal Zone. What you are offering is a
$20,000 right to use. Just say that. Don't lead people to believe they can own it.
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fishbuck
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It's Eijdo land?
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"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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irenemm
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there is no trailer park in Camalu. If your on the beach it is not close by anything.
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irenemm
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only the Co-op can dig for shell fish not even any Mexican. All shell fish belongs to the government. No one can get it. Unless you want to break the
law
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rjlaszlo
We sell lots held by the buyer as Mexican Possessions, until we have sold 60% of the properties, at which time the Government normalizes the land and
offers individual owners the option of obtaining individual titles. It's a very ordinary process in Mexico. |
Setting aside the federal zone issue for the moment......
"We sell lots held by the buyer"
Hmmm, usually lots for sale are held by the seller.
So who owns these lots you're selling at $100 / sq. meter?
25 feet from the mean high tide? a couple of car lengths.
Would that be perhaps a 3 foot high tide? What's it like at a winter 7 foot high tide with 10 foot storm waves breaking?
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by k-rico]
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wessongroup
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Boy, if you are selling real estate or a builder.. you had better has your sh*t together prior to posting on this board.. you will be standing in a
pool of your own blood...
There is a tremendous amount of collective experience and knowledge just waiting to give you a "quick" review of your posted "opportunity" ..
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rjlaszlo
It's a very ordinary process in Mexico, however not very well understood, even by knowledgeable Real Estate Agents. |
rj....you're selling snake oil at the wrong place. People on this board have been over this issue ad-nauseum and know full well that , when making a
land purchase, the title or ability to attain the fideicomiso must be exchanged immediatly. The "trust me" crap just doesn't get it.
Another thing and please correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the Federal Zone 20 meters from the mean high tide line, making the safe distance 65 feet +-?
By the way...your statement in the quote box above is probably the most honest and all inclusive evaluation of the Mexican Real Estate industry I've
ever seen. In light of the fact that you said it, I'm inclined to believe that you are misled and believe your own pitch. You should research some
of the horror stories of buyers who have put their money as well as faith in promises from Mexican dirt pimps. You could start with Punta Banda.
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rjlaszlo
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Concerns and misconceptions
Sorry, for all the confusion. The Pacific side of the property is located on a bluff 25' above the mean high tide line.
Your correct about everything, just not familiar with Camalu or our property. We have title, and First American Title Insurance on the larger parcel.
As far as ownership concerns, we have many sub divisions in the area, which Americans buy into, and they are approached in the same way. Their easy,
secure and the buyers love them.
From what I have read about hurricanes and flooding on this board, there might be some advantage in buying some beach front property a little more
elevated above the sea, and closer to the good old US of A.
My uncle, God rest his sole, owned a house in Loreto for years, and it was a major pain in the ass to make the drive. I'll take the Pacific and a
three hour drive from San Diego any time, over the humidity and isolation from the US.
Feel free to pick me apart, however I would rather you take me up on my invitation to visit Paradise Cove and have a beer and a sunset on the Pacific
horizon! Ooops! , forgot, no Pacific sunsets on the Sea of Cortez.
Hang in there all, and just in case, my blood type is AB-.
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fishbuck
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"... at which time the Government normalizes the land and offers individual owners the option of obtaining individual titles."
This sounds alot like Ejido land. Can you please explain this a little more?
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rjlaszlo
Sorry, for all the confusion. The Pacific side of the property is located on a bluff 25' above the mean high tide line.
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Thanks, rj. You persist with the 25 foot distance from mean high tide. In that case, what is your involvment with the Concession. What I mean, rj, is
you seem to be offering federal land for sale. Wasssup with that?
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rjlaszlo
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Normalizing
Hola,
Ejido land comes with a "Certificado", tiltled land a Titulo. We have Titulo, and the only way you can get First American Title Insurance is with a
title and a whole boat load of other documents run through a Notario approved by the title company.
Been there, done that. Normalizing is a process which can be done several ways, one of which we are utilizing.
I will be living next to the folks were selling to, so keeping on good terms is very important to me. I'm not out to pooch my neighbors
unintentionally or otherwise.
Thanks for the question. Robert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rjlaszlo
Feel free to pick me apart, however I would rather you take me up on my invitation to visit Paradise Cove and have a beer and a sunset on the Pacific
horizon! Ooops! , forgot, no Pacific sunsets on the Sea of Cortez.
Hang in there all, and just in case, my blood type is AB-. |
OK, I'll go first. You said a few posts above, "We sell lots held by the buyer as Mexican Possessions, until we have sold 60% of the properties, at
which time the Government normalizes the land and offers individual owners the option of obtaining individual titles."
That is a somewhat odd description of the process for taking ejido land and converting it to private ownership. Then you say you have Stewart Title
Insurance on the property. There are no title insurance policies on ejido land. So explain the following:
(1) What is the name of the holder of the land title to the property?
(2) Is it, or is it not, ejido land? Ejido land in Mexico is a "Mexican Possession". Title is held by the government.
(3) How can you "sell" the parcels, if you already stated you cannot deliver individual titles until you "sell" 60%?
(4) What happens if you do not "sell" 60%?
(5) Is the purchase money held in a real escrow until you can deliver an individual title?
(6) How long to you have to sell the 60% before a buyer can ask for his money back, due to your failure to perform?
(7) Have all environmental permits been obtained?
(8) Do you have a legal subdivision map recorded, with lot descriptions and meets and bounds?
(9) Can you give us a reference to the Mexican Law that says they will "normalize" the title after 60% is sold?
[Edited on 1-29-2010 by arrowhead]
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