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4 TJ Police Arrested for Robbing Tourist
I posted the article in Spanish below. It says 4 TJ police, in two marked patrol units, pulled over a cab in the downtown area carrying Chum Kim Ku, a
South Korea, and president of the World Youth Tae Kwon Do who was in town for a tournament to be held in TJ. They robbed him of over $1,000. This
happened last Tuesday.
| Quote: | http://afntijuana.info/blog/?p=28531
Detienen a cuatro policías extorsionadores
TIJUANA BC 4 DE MARZO DE 2010 (AFN).- Cuatro elementos de la policía municipal fueron denunciados y finalmente puestos bajo arresto por la
superioridad, tras de que se comprobó que despojaron de su dinero y otras pertenencias al presidente de la Asociación Mundial Juvenil de Tae Kwon Do
que se celebra en nuestra ciudad, Kim Chum Ku.
El turista coreano, dirige el VIII Campeonato que reúne aquí a una gran cantidad de visitantes, y según lo que denunció fue extorsionado cuando
viajaba en un taxi por la zona Centro, a las 21:15 horas del pasado 2 de marzo.
La unidad que lo transportaba fue interceptada por las unidades 4655 y 4658, de las cuales los oficiales descendieron y dos de éstos le realizaron una
revisión corporal.
Uno de los agentes revisó su cartera con documentos y en la acción lo despojaron de 500 dólares americanos, 300 Euros y 100 dólares canadienses. El
chofer de la unidad reconoció plenamente a: José Luís Hernández Gálvez, Rafael Sánchez Macedo, Eduardo Romero Enríquez y Víctor Javier Jove Rosales.
La Secretaría de Seguridad Pública que dio a conocer el arresto, hizo saber que los oficiales reconocieron plenamente este bochornoso acto.
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There's another article on the same page where the governnor of Baja is complaining about the US travel advisory to Tijuana. 
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Hang em high and throw them under the jail! Nothing worse than a Dirty Cop!
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I think it has to be an American tourist being victimized for it to be printed anywhere in English. Nope, they don't cover those in the USA either.
Too bad the cops weren't in plain clothes- bet that Tae Kwon Do guy has a few black belts. It does seem counterproductive to victimize the few
organizations still holding events in TJ. Maybe they thought he was a Chinese businessman setting up a factory...
Boston Police just set up their new camera system for just $500K. It's tied to their gunshot detectors- that saves time I'll bet.
http://thisbluemarble.com/showthread.php?p=191226
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Hang em high and throw them under the jail! Nothing worse than a Dirty Cop! |
Dirty cop? Nah! Criminal is more like it.
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Hey Woooosh...You wanted things to get back to normal. Here ya go. Just like the good ol' days
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Looks like two of the arrested TJ cops ran into those loose doors down at the delegacion.
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Somehow I think that is just the beginning of their problems!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
Somehow I think that is just the beginning of their problems! |
They'll be on the street by sundown.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Hey Woooosh...You wanted things to get back to normal. Here ya go. Just like the good ol' days |
Yup. And as soon as they install that pesky camera system again- the other 1500 TJ cops will eventually be caught too. But who would replace them
except for military? That's why the cameras are gone- they were firing Police so fast they couldn't replace them- except with the Military who had
their own corrupt commanders. And we both know it went up the ladder from there.
It's a systemic institutionalized problem and this event goes into the "they aren't ready to change yet" column, it's not a narco or AFO crime... it's
a stuck on stupid crime.
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boy I hate those loose doors
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
It's systemic institutionalized problem and this event goes in the "they aren't ready to change yet" column, it's not a narco or AFO crime. It's a
stuck on stupid crime. |
You know, Woooosh, if you keep up with this line of thought Josie is going to have to investigate you. It does not matter if you are married to a
Mexican, live in Mexico and speak Spanish. Wanting Mexico to improve is taboo around here.
...I'm just saying.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
It's systemic institutionalized problem and this event goes in the "they aren't ready to change yet" column, it's not a narco or AFO crime. It's a
stuck on stupid crime. |
You know, Woooosh, if you keep up with this line of thought Josie is going to have to investigate you. It does not matter if you are married to a
Mexican, live in Mexico and speak Spanish. Wanting Mexico to improve is taboo around here.
...I'm just saying. |
Yeah- I don't know who Josie is, but I caught some of that sentiment on another thread just now. Funny to be accused of being pro-Mexico today, last
week people were saying I could be targeted for being anti-Mexico. Tough crowd.
a new detail on this incident- the loot: "They had already divided the money equally, consisting of 500 dollars, 300 euros and 100 Canadian
dollars."
Geesh- Four "careers" and many possible years in jail (doubtful) for about $300 each. SOS for sure.
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whoosh do not give in to perceived threats like that. follow your heart and protect the people you love there's nothing wrong with speaking out
because its the first step towards getting things done. Mexico is in severe need of improvement we need folks like you.
is there an organization you can support and stand behind that can help like a citizens protection network or something of the like? if not perhaps
your friends and family can start one. a legally recognized organization can make statements and hold officials responsible for actions such as this.
an org. can unite with others like it in other cities. I can certainly see where this would be helpful throughout Mexico. being united and speaking
as one voice throughout the nation is key. this is what we're doing now on the environmental side and this can also be done in the case of civil
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
whoosh do not give in to perceived threats like that. follow your heart and protect the people you love there's nothing wrong with speaking out
because its the first step towards getting things done. Mexico is in severe need of improvement we need folks like you.
is there an organization you can support and stand behind that can help like a citizens protection network or something of the like? if not perhaps
your friends and family can start one. a legally recognized organization can make statements and hold officials responsible for actions such as this.
an org. can unite with others like it in other cities. I can certainly see where this would be helpful throughout Mexico. being united and speaking
as one voice throughout the nation is key. this is what we're doing now on the environmental side and this can also be done in the case of civil
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Thanks Pam. That's a great idea. I embrace differing views on the board, but if someone screamed in my face during an opinion discussion in person-
I would probably just turn and walk away too. That is strength, not weakness. Disengage from mischief.
I have joined a non-political grass-roots group seeking positive change within Mexico (see my avatar). If we can get people out of their houses and
comfortable talking about cleaning up TJ (literally), the other more necessary discussions will follow. This is all new ground for Mexico.
I don't expect Mexico to be able to solve this narco, corruption and violence problem quickly. They gave it a shot. It's not surrender IMHO- it's
stepping back to build an arsenal that works. They aren't there yet. But that should not prevent Americans from stopping the problem at their
border- the USA has the ability to do so- just not the will to dedicate the correct resources. Make the border stronger, carry your guns proudly
into the national forests and wipe out the Mexican pot growers on your own soil, decriminalize drugs- whatever. Just because Mexico isn't capable- it
shouldn't mean the war shouldn't be fought on the USA side. And if the USA can't get it together to create a barrier against it at the border- stop
putting 100% of the blame on the source. There's plenty of blame to go around. But everyday Mexicans need some peace, security and the time to
recover economically and socially in the meantime.
Thanks again.
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"Confiesa, cabrón, si no te vas a morir aquí mismo"
Very interesting expose article on the incident from the viewpoint of the arrested officers. Here is the Spanish version:
http://rosaritoenlanoticia.blogspot.com/2010/03/confiesa-cab...
...and here is a Google translated version:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Frosarit...
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Arrowhead, why do you care? Why have you made it your mission in life to point out every negative thing that happens in Mexico? Why the
obsession/addiction to the negativity and dark side? Is it just because you don't want people to come here? Don't give me the I want people to know
the truth line because they can get their info from the same sources you are always quoting.
Do you think you are providing some kind of service for people or telling people stuff they don't already know? What is it? Your focus on the negative
is really unhealthy. I guess I should ask myself the same question I just asked you. Why do I care whether you are messed up or not?
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It is too bad the police have to beat and torture each other to get the "truth", when all they have to do is put the camera system back in place. And
no, I'm not getting off the camera-horse for a long time. They had a state of the art security system that objectively provided the video truth- and
this is better than that? This tourist was taken from a taxi in the tourist zone- which previously had been closely monitored by the camera system.
I'm sure the Union Tribune will simply say "this is a local interest story only" and not report it, just like the two Rosarito carjackings of
Americans last month. It wasn't in todays paper- but maybe they will put in in the Sunday Enlace Spanish section. The UT is doing their part to
cooperate with the Mexican deception... the proof is in what they DON'T print. JMHO.
My family survived an attempted carjacking within sight of these empty camera mounts:
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Do you think you are providing some kind of service for people or telling people stuff they don't already know? |
Hey look, Kyle. I know things are not going too well with you. But you chose to have a career selling Mexican real estate to Gringos. Right now that
is like selling icecubes to Eskimoes. But please don't take it out on me. I am not responsible for the problems in Mexico. I'm getting a little tired
of being the target. First of all, the "stuff" is not what they already know. Where is this incident reported in the US media?
Second of all, you are not an honest person. I'm not saying that to pick a fight with you, but I've sat here and watched you talk out of both sides of
your mouth, and have not called you out on all of it. Please try to find a post where I lied about a fact.
Do you remember when you posted this last year?
| Quote: | "I have been doing real estate in Mexico for 10 years and have been involved in $17,000,000 in closed sales and so far nobody has lost a property
yet."
Donjulio 6/6/2009 |
Was that a true statement? Do you remember this post of yours, about El Dorado Ranch?:
| Quote: | "Yeah lots of that going on. But can't blame some of them either. They were promised a lot. They got some of it but not near the promises. Pat did the
same thing that pretty much everyone did. Spent money speculating property instead of putting it back into the development. Granted he put millions in
but still...everyone borrowed (not robbed) from Peter to pay Paul. Now Peter showed up and nobody can pay him back."
DonJulio 1-13-2010 |
I happen to know that you worked for years for the company the marketed El Dorado. A lot of people drank your Koolaide, and have lost money.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Do you think you are providing some kind of service for people or telling people stuff they don't already know? |
Hey look, Kyle. I know things are not going too well with you. But you chose to have a career selling Mexican real estate to Gringos. Right now that
is like selling icecubes to Eskimoes. But please don't take it out on me. I am not responsible for the problems in Mexico. I'm getting a little tired
of being the target. First of all, the "stuff" is not what they already know. Where is this incident reported in the US media?
Second of all, you are not an honest person. I'm not saying that to pick a fight with you, but I've sat here and watched you talk out of both sides of
your mouth, and have not called you out on all of it. Please try to find a post where I lied about a fact.
Do you remember when you posted this last year?
| Quote: | "I have been doing real estate in Mexico for 10 years and have been involved in $17,000,000 in closed sales and so far nobody has lost a property
yet."
Donjulio 6/6/2009 |
Was that a true statement? Do you remember this post of yours, about El Dorado Ranch?:
| Quote: | "Yeah lots of that going on. But can't blame some of them either. They were promised a lot. They got some of it but not near the promises. Pat did the
same thing that pretty much everyone did. Spent money speculating property instead of putting it back into the development. Granted he put millions in
but still...everyone borrowed (not robbed) from Peter to pay Paul. Now Peter showed up and nobody can pay him back."
DonJulio 1-13-2010 |
I happen to know that you worked for years for the company the marketed El Dorado. A lot of people drank your Koolaide, and have lost money.
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I don't see where either of those posts contradict each other. You have to get your stories straight too. I did not work for "The company that
marketed El Dorado". I believe you are referring to RMac? Never worked for them.
Second I don't know of a single person in a real estate deal I was involved in who "LOST" a property yet.
Are there issues at developments that have not been resolved? Yes for sure. All due to lack of money. There is a big difference though between that
and losing a property.
Have people lost money? Only if they are currently selling for less than they paid. But that is a choice they are making. A lot of people are holding
onto their properties and waiting.
You have to look at clear examples. Two people come down and pay $40,000 for a lot next door to each other. One used equity in their property in the
states. The other one used their retirement money. The one that used their retirement money built their house with cash and moved down here and lives
here full-time. Are the retired people happy? Yep.
The one that bought with equity money doesn't have any equity anymore, can't afford to build, are in trouble with the economy in the states and have
to sell. They sell for $15,000. Are they happy? Nope. Did they lose money? Yep. Did they lose their property? Nope. Is it my fault? Nope So lets keep
our stories straight here.
I bought a home in AZ in Dec 2004 and paid $289,000. It went up to $435,000. It sold last year for $130,000.
Did I get ripped off? No. Did I lose the property? No. Did I lose my ass? Yep. But it wasnt anybodys fault.
Keep trying though. You won't find anyone here that I ripped off. But you never did answer my question. Why do you have such a negative obsession with
Mexico?
I don't like the real estate business here at all. And yeah the market sucks. But I sure like living in Mexico much more than living in the US.
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May I suggest that you take it to U2U or somewhere else ?
Off topic, personal, and inappropriate for this thread.
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
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