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Woooosh
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Dateline NBC 3/5/10 9pm PST (2 hours)- Kidnapping and Corruption in Mexico
I saw this couple on the Today show this morning. They were warned by Mexican authorities last month not to talk to the media- but they have anyway.
They felt the crime wasn't solved, so not talking about it has served no purpose. He was abducted in 2007, held in a box for 7 months, shot and
tortured- with photos and notes sent to the wife stateside all along demanding a $9 Million ransom. A chilling story- not only on the human and
abduction/kidnapping side, but about the systemic corruption and flawed systems that prevent Mexico from moving forward. That is the part that
interests me personally.
No it's not Baja- it is all of Mexico.
http://insidedateline.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/03/02/22163...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Donjulio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I saw this couple on the Today show this morning. They were warned by Mexican authorities last month not to talk to the media- but they have anyway.
They felt the crime wasn't solved, so not talking about it has served no purpose. He was abducted in 2007, held in a box for 7 months, shot and
tortured- with photos and notes sent to the wife stateside all along demanding a $9 Million ransom. A chilling story- not only on the human and
abduction/kidnapping side, but about the systemic corruption and flawed systems that prevent Mexico from moving forward. That is the part that
interests me personally.
No it's not Baja- it is all of Mexico.
http://insidedateline.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/03/02/22163... |
True -its all of Mexico. And the US, France, England, Russia, Germany, Asia, Africa, and, and, and, and...
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I saw this couple on the Today show this morning. They were warned by Mexican authorities last month not to talk to the media- but they have anyway.
They felt the crime wasn't solved, so not talking about it has served no purpose. He was abducted in 2007, held in a box for 7 months, shot and
tortured- with photos and notes sent to the wife stateside all along demanding a $9 Million ransom. A chilling story- not only on the human and
abduction/kidnapping side, but about the systemic corruption and flawed systems that prevent Mexico from moving forward. That is the part that
interests me personally.
No it's not Baja- it is all of Mexico.
http://insidedateline.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/03/02/22163... |
True -its all of Mexico. And the US, France, England, Russia, Germany, Asia, Africa, and, and, and, and... |
To keep a shred of credibility you should watch it first, and then comment on what other counties are comparable. I'm waiting- so should you.
I do think Mexico tried to stop this story for a reason, but we'll see.
[Edited on 3-5-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Hola,
Woooosh, thanks for the heads up. will definitely watch the program tonite.
knew about all the corruption forever but never heard about the kidnapping/ransom demand in 2007. we saw another kidnapping story about a couple and
their daughter in the rosarita beach ( ? ) area on tv about two months ago.
as you say, let's watch and see and then comment, or not.
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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Bajahowodd
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Thanks for the heads up, too. We do not usually watch that show, and probably would have missed it.
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DENNIS
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I'll have to set my alarm.
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face it - mexico is corrupt - always has been and always will be.
like the frog and the scorpion fable....it is their nature.
but that is in part of why i like it...the little bit of danger and intrigue - like no real rules - you are on your own, make your deals etc.
the shades of the old west.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
face it - mexico is corrupt - always has been and always will be.
like the frog and the scorpion fable....it is their nature.
but that is in part of why i like it...the little bit of danger and intrigue - like no real rules - you are on your own, make your deals etc.
the shades of the old west. |
I felt exactly that way when I was young and down here with friends looking for trouble and donkey shows... only found one. That's why I still wish
the younger nomads and newbies well on their surfaris and road trips. Chances are they will have a great time- so why ruin it for them. Back in the
old days a run in with the local Barney Fife's and paying a mordida here and there was part of the charm and attarction of it all. You still get to be
a bad-boy and feel free (of lawyers at least)- like 50 years ago NOB.
[Edited on 3-5-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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yeah, Whoosh, that's part of the allure.
no big deal if you publicize what a POS your country is. mine sucks, too!
each has to make peace with their demons every time they cross the border. i keep wondering if my time will come? when i was a kid Barney Fife was a
regular part of the entertaining stories. nowadays, entertainment takes on a whole new meaning!!!!
25 years later we keep searching, yearning for more......
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WELL .....??
Who watched it ?
Comments ?
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
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Peace, Love, and Music
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DENNIS
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I tried. Commercials drove me nuts. First hour was good, but I'll have to catch the second hour on a re-run.
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i tried too...
i was bored after 5 minutes
watched a "desparate housewives" rerun instead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Commercials drove me nuts. |
I bet! The network probably made a fortune on the commercials.
"If it bleeds it leads."
Let me guess, the commercials were for depression medicines and home security systems.
Pain, horror, terror, tragedy, sorrow.
Order a pizza, make some popcorn.
That's entertainment!!
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Slept right through it.....
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Wow, not sure how to respond to these reactions. This family went through hell. I'm surprised at the responses only talking about the commercials.
Heck, get a DVR and fast forward through them. This story is horrifying, no way to deny that, and IMO one that should have been told.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
Wow, not sure how to respond to these reactions. This family went through hell. I'm surprised at the responses only talking about the commercials.
Heck, get a DVR and fast forward through them. This story is horrifying, no way to deny that, and IMO one that should have been told.
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OK...So, tell us how it played out.
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Well, my take on this.
Family was portrayed as an average Mexican family with the husband ,at one time, from a rich one. Looking at the "Hacienda" style house they lived in,
the buildings (school) they built on their acreage, the domestic and other help they employed, try telling this to the average Mexican. Even to me
they would qualify as "very well-to-do".
Also, their new domicile in the States would attest to that.
Also, there was actually never any referrence to how these folks made a living. Their lifestyle would appeal to most folks.
This doesn't take away from the horror of the event, the cruelty of the captors, nor the ineptness of law enforcement, but, realisticly, doesn't much
apply to the common man.
Anyway, being in that area of the country for 2 weeks next month, I told my better half, "No matter what happens"
"DON"T PAY THE RANSOM" 
[Edited on 3-6-2010 by vandenberg]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SDRonni
This story is horrifying, no way to deny that, and IMO one that should have been told. |
I've had enough horror this week watching the San Diego news.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
I've had enough horror this week watching the San Diego news. |
You must be watching the Chargers dismantle themselves. 
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I Have To Agree With You
| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Well, my take on this.
Family was portrayed as an average Mexican family with the husband ,at one time, from a rich one. Looking at the "Hacienda" style house they lived in,
the buildings (school) they built on their acreage, the domestic and other help they employed, try telling this to the average Mexican. Even to me
they would qualify as "very well-to-do".
Also, their new domicile in the States would attest to that.
Also, there was actually never any referrence to how these folks made a living. Their lifestyle would appeal to most folks.
This doesn't take away from the horror of the event, the cruelty of the captors, nor the ineptness of law enforcement, but, realisticly, doesn't much
apply to the common man.
Anyway, being in that area of the country for 2 weeks next month, I told my better half, "No matter what happens"
"DON"T PAY THE RANSOM"
[Edited on 3-6-2010 by vandenberg] |
In no way was this a typical Mexican family. In fact, I have to wonder about the back story of how they came to be featured in this show. He looked
wealthy and connected. That said, it still was a horrible experience for all.
[Edited on 3-6-2010 by Bajahowodd]
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