| Pages:
1
2
3
4 |
nobaddays
Nomad
Posts: 183
Registered: 2-24-2007
Member Is Offline
|
|
Consulate offices order by Obama
On Sunday, the U.S. State Department ordered the evacuation of dependents of U.S. personnel in six U.S. consulates in Mexico. The consulate offices
are in Tijuana, Baja California, Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua, Nuevo Laredo and Matamoros, Tamaulipas and Monterrey, Nuevo Leon.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/mexic...
[Edited on 02/24/2007 by nobaddays]
|
|
|
bajabass
Super Nomad
Posts: 2016
Registered: 10-4-2006
Location: La Paz,BCS
Member Is Offline
Mood: Want to fish!!!
|
|
I am suprised the families are still there.  I tell my wife to roll up the
windows and lock the doors for the 15 minutes you spend in TJ headed south or north. Juarez, 
|
|
|
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline
|
|
Why do we have a consulate in that toilet called Juarez anyway?
Reminds me...tomorrow is Benito Juarez day here. It's a real holiday...banks closed etc.
|
|
|
Pescador
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3587
Registered: 10-17-2002
Location: Baja California Sur
Member Is Offline
|
|
Wow, that he would have acted that fast at Fort Hood.
|
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Why do we have a consulate in that toilet called Juarez anyway?
Reminds me...tomorrow is Benito Juarez day here. It's a real holiday...banks closed etc. |
Because, just like TJ/ San Diego, there is an immense amount of cross border traffic and commerce between Juarez and El Paso.
|
|
|
Dave
Elite Nomad
Posts: 6005
Registered: 11-5-2002
Member Is Offline
|
|
Can't find any details. Anyone have access to the reports of the killings?
|
|
|
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Can't find any details. Anyone have access to the reports of the killings? |
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/14/3-with-ties-u...
|
|
|
ELINVESTIG8R
Select Nomad
Posts: 15882
Registered: 11-20-2007
Location: Southern California
Member Is Offline
|
|
If this was a Narco murder of Americans I think they just really screwed-the-pooch. They will now be facing an even greater U.S. involvement against
them. Hey, it could have been Jihadist Terrorists too. Who knows. I hope they catch the perpetrators soon so we can know what faction was involved!
|
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
Could They Be Related?
It's getting so weird. On the same day, 13 bodies, some of them headless turn up in and around Acapulco. This, just as things were gearing up for
spring break. Not to mention that with the Benito Juarez holiday, thousands of Mexicans usually head down to Acapulco from the DF.
|
|
|
arrowhead
Banned
Posts: 912
Registered: 5-5-2009
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
If this was a Narco murder of Americans I think they just really screwed-the-pooch. They will now be facing an even greater U.S. involvement against
them. |
That is not my reading of the situation. Mexico is very protectionist and will not allow the US to take an active role in policing Mexico. It is
political suicide for a Mexican president to invite US troops/police onto Mexican soil. The way I see it, the narcos targeted these people to force
the US to back off, which it will, as it cannot protect its people in Mexico. Take a look at the State Dept. order to families of US consulate
employees to beat it back to the US. I would expect even stronger travel warnings out shortly. This murder weakens the Mexican federal government,
which is exactly what the cartels want. I think it was a well planned move.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
|
|
|
DENNIS
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 29510
Registered: 9-2-2006
Location: Punta Banda
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Mexico is very protectionist and will not allow the US to take an active role in policing Mexico. It is political suicide for a Mexican president to
invite US troops/police onto Mexican soil. |
We don't have to be on their soil. Just stay on ours at the border, the complete border, with heavy numbers. It's only a matter of time.
|
|
|
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
Posts: 18355
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Hot n spicy
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Mexico is very protectionist and will not allow the US to take an active role in policing Mexico. It is political suicide for a Mexican president to
invite US troops/police onto Mexican soil. |
We don't have to be on their soil. Just stay on ours at the border, the complete border, with heavy numbers. It's only a matter of time.
|
the US continues to coddle the drug cartels by doing a half-assed job at intercepting drug shipments. if US would focus on intercepting drug
shipments (instead of intercepting poor people trying to make a living), US would shut down the cartels.
and it is US appetite for drugs that provides income to cartels. US doesn't go after US drug abusers and drug distribution networks, so US citizens
are source of problems in Mexico. it really is the US's fault.
|
|
|
BillP
Nomad
Posts: 420
Registered: 1-28-2010
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Can't find any details. Anyone have access to the reports of the killings? |
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/14/associated-consul...
|
|
|
BillP
Nomad
Posts: 420
Registered: 1-28-2010
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
Member Is Offline
|
|
It's a shame not many will see this good article on Mexico.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/03/13/20100313ro...
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
Ya think? Nothing ticks off the USA more than stuff like this. Truly a towel-head act and a new low for Mexico which just moved one step closer to
becoming a failed state. Mexico had the time and advance warnings in Juarez- they just couldn't pull it off.
Tourism in Baja just can't catch a break. Torres yesterday got the US Consulate in Tijuana to say Rosarito Beach is now safe- a lot of good that does
now with that office evacuated too.
http://rosaritoenlanoticia.blogspot.com/2010/03/destaca-cons...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
Who would expect crime and drug-related violence in Rocky Point? It's basically isolated by having one way to and from the border.
|
|
|
mtgoat666
Select Nomad
Posts: 18355
Registered: 9-16-2006
Location: San Diego
Member Is Offline
Mood: Hot n spicy
|
|
what none of you understand is that once the country gets a bad rep, no one cares about a few safe towns that may be in the country -- mexico needs to
squash the cartels/violence, or give up on tourism.
columbia was once a tourist destination, but drug cartel violence put an end to that.
|
|
|
CaboRon
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3401
Registered: 3-24-2007
Location: The Valley of the Moon
Member Is Offline
Mood: Peacefull
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Can't find any details. Anyone have access to the reports of the killings? |
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (Reuters) – Gunmen in the drug war-plagued Mexican city of Ciudad Juarez killed two Americans and a Mexican linked to the local
U.S. consulate, an attack U.S. President Barack Obama said "outraged" him.
An American woman working at the consulate in Ciudad Juarez, just over the border from El Paso, Texas, and her U.S. husband were fatally shot by
suspected drug gang hitmen in broad daylight on Saturday as they left a consulate social event, U.S. and Mexican officials told Reuters.
A Mexican man married to another consulate employee was killed around the same time in another part of the city after he and his wife left the same
event, a U.S. official said.
The U.S. official, who asked not to be identified, said it was not clear if the victims had been specifically targeted, and the motive for the attacks
was unknown.
Bloodshed has exploded in recent months in Ciudad Juarez as the head of the Juarez cartel, Vicente Carrillo Fuentes, fights off a bloody offensive by
Mexico's No. 1 fugitive drug lord, Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman, at the worst hotspot of Mexico's three-year-old drug war.
"The president is deeply saddened and outraged by the news," said White House National Security Council spokesman Mike Hammer. He said Obama "shares
in the outrage of the Mexican people at the murders of thousands in Ciudad Juarez and elsewhere in Mexico."
The U.S. State Department updated its warning on travel to Mexico to say it had authorized the departure of dependents of U.S. government personnel
from consulates in Ciudad Juarez and five other northern border cities.
Nearly 19,000 people have been killed since President Felipe Calderon came to power in Mexico in late 2006 and launched a military assault on the
country's powerful drug cartels, sparking a surge in violence that has alarmed Washington, foreign investors and tourists.
Most victims are rival traffickers and police, and to a lesser extent soldiers, local officials and bystanders. It is rare for drug gang hitmen to
target foreigners.
"The Mexican authorities are determined to clarify what happened and bring those responsible to justice," the Mexican Foreign Ministry said of
Saturday's attacks.
CHILDREN SURVIVE SHOOTING
The attack on the U.S. couple began with a car chase and ended in front of the main border crossing into El Paso, an area heavily patrolled by
soldiers, local newspaper El Diario reported. The couple's baby girl survived the attack.
The Mexican spouse was murdered in an upscale neighborhood of the city when gunmen boxed in his car with other vehicles and shot him, according to a
local newspaper photographer who soon arrived at the scene. His wife, who was following in a second car, was unhurt, but their two children were
wounded.
Calderon was already scheduled to visit Ciudad Juarez on Tuesday, his third trip there in a month, as he scrambles to find a way to deal with a surge
in killings that 8,000 troops and federal police on the ground have failed to curb.
The drug war has killed more than 4,600 people in the key manufacturing city in two years, and constant scenes of bullet-ridden vehicles and bodies
lying in pools of blood have prompted many middle-class residents to flee.
Across Mexico, drug war violence is at its worst level ever, and many U.S. students have heeded warnings not to cross the border this year for their
annual "spring break" vacation.
A burst of drug gang clashes killed at least 27 people -- including four who were beheaded -- this weekend in or near the Pacific resort of Acapulco,
one of many popular with spring breakers.
At least 13 were killed on Saturday and at least 14 on Sunday, police said, including nine men who were killed in a shootout and a young woman shot as
she drove by in a taxi.
Obama voiced his support for Calderon's drug war during a visit to Mexico last year, but the rising violence along the border with Mexico has become a
big concern for Washington.
(Additional reporting by Caren Bohan; writing by Noel Randewich; editing by Catherine Bremer and Mohammad Zargham)
Related Searches:president felipe calderon ciudad juarez drug cartels mexico
 |
|
|
arrowhead
Banned
Posts: 912
Registered: 5-5-2009
Member Is Offline
|
|
OK, here's my political analysis on this. When Obama was elected he was overwhelmingly looked on favorably, but there was still a nagging suspicion
that he would be weak on terrorism. He lost a lot of political capital when the Ft. Hood massacre happened. He squandered away a lot more when the
Christmas underwear bomber got through the screening process. Now released prisoners from Guantanamo are being recaptured in fights against Americans
in the mid-East.
Even his closest political advisors are telling him if there is one more terror attack on American soil, he might was well just play basketball until
his four years are up. This Juarez attack was close. The two Americans killed were chased in a car after leaving a consular event right up to the
bridge to the US, which is swarming with Mexican police and soldiers. The onther person killed, the Mexican husband of a consular employee, was
boxed-in by two cars and murdered in front of his wife who was following in another car. The two events were almost simultaneous in different parts of
the city. This was a planned terror attack on Americans.
I think there is going to be a lot of political fallout on this.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
|
|
|
Bajahowodd
Elite Nomad
Posts: 9274
Registered: 12-15-2008
Location: Disneyland Adjacent and anywhere in Baja
Member Is Offline
|
|
Funded by the Tea Party People?
Just can't embrace such a tectonic shift over this event. Unless, one wishes to buy in to a sinister conspiracy that could be traced all the way back
to 9/11 and those who think it was either orchestrated by Bush, or tacitly approved. Terrorists abound throughout the world. Most of them are true
believers in a cause, most of which, the average US citizen would disavow. In my opinion, the Mexican Drug war will likely not be connected to the
jihadists half a world away. If they do, they ain't very smart.
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2
3
4 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
