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Edguero
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Gonzaga Road
I just got word that construction on the new road has started again, they have grated about 10 miles from Huerfenitos (sp?). I was informed that it is
only about an hours worth of the old "bad" road to Rancho Grande. The desert is in full bloom from all the rain, hope it still is in a couple of
weeks!
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David K
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Bummer! 
Thanks for the news...
(EL HUERFANITO)
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capt. mike
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what??!!!!
come on...bring on the CONDOS man!!
 
i'd go to Gonzaga more often if they had a blockbuster outlet.
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tripledigitken
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What is the rumor as to plans for continuing the pavement on to Mex 1/Chapala?
Ken
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woody with a view
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or an Applebee's!
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David K
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Oh boy, Applebees at Gonzaga Bay!
Ken, according to what Coco was told, the new highway will NOT pass his place 
It will take a slighly more west route to cut the distance a tiny bit (and hurt Coco's business)... It will follow the much older road that was built
by Arturo Grosso (Mama Espinoza's brother) of Laguna Chapala in the 1950's... and also happens to be where the El Camino Real is... about a mile west
of Coco's.
Coco was so looking forward to the paving of the road in front of his Corner, naturally! Hopefully, we Baja enthusiasts will detour off the new
highway there, and visit Coco.
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tripledigitken
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DK,
You have watched the new road being constructed, at the same rate when would you estimate it would be complete to Mex 1?
Ken
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David K
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Ken, I am surprised they got to Huerfanito so fast! They took a year and a half + to go 18 miles over tough terrain... It is easier the rest of the
way to Gonzaga with just one ridge at Okie's Landing to deal with... and the hill between Papa's road and Rancho Grande.
Pavement ended 2 miles south of the Puertecitos jcn. in Sept. 2008... It was about 4 miles south on Jan. 1, 2009... (my last time over it) and Nomads
like bbbait (Wayno) have been providing photos and reports since then.
Puertecitos to Gonzaga is about 45 miles, with Huerfanito about 20 miles from Puertecitos. At their rate, with easier terrain than the volcanic ridges
north of Huerfanito, Gonzaga could be reached in one year... ???
Gonzaga to Laguna Chapala is 36 miles +/- with a lot of mountain work between Coco's area and Hwy. 1... Maybe 2 years for that part?
It's all a guess... but seems the bliss of a peaceful Gonzaga Bay is coming to an end. 
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Bajahowodd
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Grated road? Seems to go more with Olive Garden than Applebee's.
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capt. mike
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i think it would be good if the Mexican equivalent of 7-11 or circle K, OXXO began springing up along those new improved highway areas.
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cj5orion
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Just a word of 'caution' here about the 'new' construction.
When they stopped work a few months ago,,,it was because of contract problems.As per said contract,the road is to be built 5 more miles from where it
currently stops,by contractor "a".contractor "b" was/is supposed to be coming from the south.
Now,,,as we all know,,,contractor "b" never started !
So,,,contractor "a" is POSSIBLY just finishing their initial contract ?
ooooorrrrr,,,,they've picked up "b's" contract ?
So,,,,,before everybody gets their skirts aflyin ! Its possible "a" is just finishing their final few miles ?
David K is correct about the" proposed" route though.
Home Remodels/Builds..Recession!
Gone BAJA BUILDIN/FISHIN !
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Pacifico
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Bummer for Coco if the road doesn't go past his place.....However, I think that is part of what makes Coco's place special is that it is all dirt to
get there. It wouldn't be such a special stop (other than to see Coco) if it was sitting on a paved road. Just my opinion......
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capt. mike
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or....he could open up an OXXO...
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TMW
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You're all wrong there will be a McDonalds first. I think I'll call them for the franchise rights Monday. Big Macs for all, at a price. Maybe a KFC
too.
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ArvadaGeorge
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I like KFC especially the ones linked with A&W-- KFC with a frosty mug of A&W would be nice
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bonanza bucko
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We're at Alfonsina's now..drove the road last Sunday. There are 19.5 miles of pavement and then about 7 miles of graded dirt south of Puertecitos.
Then about 21 miles of That Road from the good ole days. I'll take you about 1 + 15 from Puertecitos to GB if you know how to drive washboard.
Longer if you don't.
Still no word or work on the 37 miles to Mex One from here.
Hope it takes forever.
BB
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desertcpl
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bonanza bucko
after all these years,, tell how you travel the wash board road,, I have always heard some thing like 5 or 30 or something like that,,
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bonanza bucko
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That's true....you can go 10 MPH and be "down in it" and shake your rig and your butt apart or you can be "on top" at about 30-40 MPH and save both of
those important things.
Problema is that you gotta know the road so you don't hit a bunch of big rocks or a berm where there has been a washout below an old cement fill or
the like at those speeds. You REALLY need to go through them at about 5-10 MPH.
On That Road now there are about ten places where you gotta go slow....up some really bad draws and over some really sharp rocks....used to be about
twenty of them.
You also gotta know where you need to slow down to prevent sliding to the side and off the road in sand or loose gravel if you're going too fast
around a curve.
Bottom line, you pretty much have to know the road and then you need to really pay attention. Driving that road means NEVER looking at the scenery
and seeing EVERY big rock and bad spot long before you get to it. If you wanna see the sights get a burro or travel at burro speeds...that's fun too.
You also need good tires....BFG TAs or equivalent with three ply side walls. The side walls are what get shredded by the sharp rocks. You also need
to let the air outa your tires to absorb some of the shock to save your rig...don't expect the shocks and coil over springs to do it all......I use
about 29 pounds depending on my load. Other guys use more or less than that....experiment.
If you are towing a trailer with a boat or camper on it expect everything towed to fall apart before you get to where you're going.....trailers don't
ever make it unless you take all day and then stop to fix stuff that shakes apart.
We also are gonna have to get used the the fancy pavement. It goes through the old Tres Marias where the road is built on and under some very
unstable cinder mountains. That road was covered with fallen rocks...some of them pretty big...last week. If you drive it anytime you are gonna have
to be awake...you ain't on Interstate 5. I also think that the next moderate earth quake is gonna take part of the new paved road down into the sea
where God probably thinks it belongs.
Hope that helps.
BB
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capt. mike
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wow...no wonder you prefer to go in your bo Bruce!!
what a pain in the arse...unless you are in a trophy truck w/ 3' of wheel travel!
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wilderone
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Keep in mind that after the new paved road is done, it will be subject to deterioration and it will be pot-holed and start breaking apart in a few
years. It won't be on the list of roads to be maintained on any priority basis after weather events such as floods washing out parts of the road,
roack slides, etc. So there's hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As to the skills required for speeding over washboard at 40 mph - I have assisted in a rollover where the truck skittered around a corner going too
fast. If you don't know the hazards, don't increase your risks with speed.
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