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paulb87
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Canadian murdered in Mexico
This took place in Coahuila state just south of Texas.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100614/national/canadian_...
Gringo from Canada...Hola Amigos
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the police have to stop these armed barricades .... this is simply unacceptable ...
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paulb87
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Targeted drug hits is one thing but when they target norte americanos with SUV's and trucks, thats getting very serious. Makes you wonder why the
richest drug cartels would carjack instead of quietly buying thousand of their own drug vehicles??
But then again this conflict in Mexico makes no sense. If they went to Avis or Budget rent a car..they could use the rental car defence for the drugs
on board.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by paulb87
Makes you wonder why the richest drug cartels would carjack instead of quietly buying thousand of their own drug vehicles??
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I'm sure it's not the cartel leaders that are doing the street crimes. It's their scummy little soldiers who are left unemployed between drug moving
activities or when their faction of the trade ceases to exist.
It's been asked here many times what these workers would do when the cartels are wiped out. [???]
Well, this is it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by paulb87
Makes you wonder why the richest drug cartels would carjack instead of quietly buying thousand of their own drug vehicles??
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I'm sure it's not the cartel leaders that are doing the street crimes. It's their scummy little soldiers who are left unemployed between drug moving
activities or when their faction of the trade ceases to exist.
It's been asked here many times what these workers would do when the cartels are wiped out. [???]
Well, this is it. |
You may be right, Dennis.  As you know, I want the cartel violence to stop and still believe that legalizing drugs can help, but this thing,
targeting gringos, is what we all fear. Up to now we have gotten a pass. I hope we do not become targets.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by paulb87
Makes you wonder why the richest drug cartels would carjack instead of quietly buying thousand of their own drug vehicles??
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I'm sure it's not the cartel leaders that are doing the street crimes. It's their scummy little soldiers who are left unemployed between drug moving
activities or when their faction of the trade ceases to exist.
It's been asked here many times what these workers would do when the cartels are wiped out. [???]
Well, this is it. |
You may be right, Dennis. As you know, I want the cartel violence to stop and still believe that legalizing drugs can help, but this thing,
targeting gringos, is what we all fear. Up to now we have gotten a pass. I hope we do not become targets. |
meth tweakers and fringe ner-do-wells rarely put much thought into their plans. i don't think they were targeting gringos -- probably just targeting
SUVs on a lonely road at night.
wrong place, wrong time -- remind yourself, don't drive at nite!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
You may be right, Dennis. As you know, I want the cartel violence to stop and still believe that legalizing drugs can help, but this thing,
targeting gringos, is what we all fear. Up to now we have gotten a pass. I hope we do not become targets. |
I don't see it as having gotten a pass, Tony. We were being targeted. Remember the car-jackings and the robberys?
We, in a rare display of solidarity, rebelled loudly and the tourism industry paid attention. Authorities stepped in and largely put a stop to it
only because the press was reporting the crime and nobody wanted to take a chance below the border.
The press, for reporting the incidents, was blamed for crying wolf and ruining the Baja economy which was total nonsense.
My point is, if we hang together and use our voice, we may be afforded the protection which we deserve. We did it once and we can do it again.
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seems to be several versions of the story...
Updated: Mon Jun. 14 2010 7:32:49 PM
CTV.ca News Staff
A Canadian was killed and another seriously injured in Mexico last week when a teenager opened fire on them in an attempted car jacking.
Kenneth Klowak, 43, was reportedly in Mexico to build trails for hikers and mountain bikers at a local resort when he was killed.
The shooting took place five days ago in the state of Coahuila, about 65 kilometres from Eagle Pass, a Texas border town.
Police in Eagle Pass told CTV Toronto that a teenaged boy approached the Chevrolet Suburban that Klowak and two other men were riding in.
The trio had stopped for lunch and when they attempted to drive away, the teen allegedly jumped on the vehicle and opened fire. Klowak was shot twice
in the face and died at the scene.
Other reports say the trio had driven through a roadblock set up by their assailants.
"It happened very fast," said Sgt. Moses Pina with the Eagle Pass police force. "The people in the vehicle were very much in fear of their lives. They
were trying to get away."
Another member of the group was shot in the head, U.S. investigators say, while the third passenger was taken hostage by the suspects and later
released.
U.S. investigators say that Mexican drug cartels often target SUVs and pick-up trucks, and use local teenagers to help steal them.
The Department of Foreign Affairs confirmed it knew of one Canadian citizen who had died in Mexico's Piedras Negras region, but did not give the
victim's name.
"Canadian consular officials in Monterrey and Mexico City are working closely with local authorities to gather additional information, and are
providing consular assistance to the family," said Dana Cryderman, a department spokesperson.
Klowak's parents live north of Orangeville. They declined to speak to CTV News, saying the situation was too sensitive.
A funeral service is scheduled for Thursday in Orangeville, Ont.
With a report from CTV Toronto's John Musselman and files from The Canadian Press
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and see
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/canadian-citizen-kille...
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Losing your homes at the South Campo, murdering you for for a SUV, unchecked violence everywhere, corrupt police and officials, an inept government
who speaks out against lawbidding AZ citizens and their new law, etc, etc, etc. Mexico is not heading for the toilet, its already there. Just a
lawless bunch of criminals & racist hypocrits.
If you know what you know now would you still move to Mexico? Alot of you are financially stuck in Mexico and have to make the most of it. Three
years ago I was planning on retiring in Mulege. I'm now spending my lifetime of savings elsewhere.
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Folks get carjacked in the U.S. too. It sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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This is NOT GOOD no matter how you look at it. While personally I feel safe in Mexico (stupid??) I would never forgive myself if something like
this happens while traveling with my wife down there.
I love Mexico but this type of violence may even scare me away from going. Will keep monitoring for sure. As I am in the process of looking for a
place to buy down there this certainly puts a chill on things. Oh well, it does happen all the time here in Los Angeles so some more thought will
need to go into this problem for sure.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lookingandbuying
Oh well, it does happen all the time here in Los Angeles |
Just last week someone ran a freeway blockade and got shot. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Folks get carjacked in the U.S. too. It sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. |
Careful comparing the two the countries...a few old blow hards might question the relevancy....but I agree with you.
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Sure?
No up here they don't blockade the road/freeway...they just shoot you while you are driving along minding your own business. And, if you just happen
to cut someone off by accident, they really get into a road rage and spray you along with any small children in your car.
Also, another big difference here is that it is just random rage/violence. In Mexico, they are generally trying to get what you have.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by paulb87
Makes you wonder why the richest drug cartels would carjack instead of quietly buying thousand of their own drug vehicles??
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I'm sure it's not the cartel leaders that are doing the street crimes. It's their scummy little soldiers who are left unemployed between drug moving
activities or when their faction of the trade ceases to exist.
It's been asked here many times what these workers would do when the cartels are wiped out. [???]
Well, this is it. |
exactly. And my Rosarito beach neighborhood is infested with them right now. Like c-ckroaches. Even just had a sinaloa cartel whole family move in-
like the Mexican sopranos I guess. lol
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by paulb87
Makes you wonder why the richest drug cartels would carjack instead of quietly buying thousand of their own drug vehicles??
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I'm sure it's not the cartel leaders that are doing the street crimes. It's their scummy little soldiers who are left unemployed between drug moving
activities or when their faction of the trade ceases to exist.
It's been asked here many times what these workers would do when the cartels are wiped out. [???]
Well, this is it. |
You may be right, Dennis. As you know, I want the cartel violence to stop and still believe that legalizing drugs can help, but this thing,
targeting gringos, is what we all fear. Up to now we have gotten a pass. I hope we do not become targets. |
meth tweakers and fringe ner-do-wells rarely put much thought into their plans. i don't think they were targeting gringos -- probably just targeting
SUVs on a lonely road at night.
wrong place, wrong time -- remind yourself, don't drive at nite! |
The tweaker epidemic is the root of all evil.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Folks get carjacked in the U.S. too. It sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. |
The victim was a Canadian, you know, from Canada. It could be he was in the wrong country at the wrong time.
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And this has what, to do with Baja?
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somebody was shot & killed in Kansas!! NO WAY am I going to spend my life savings to retire in Northern California now!!! 
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