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ElFaro
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LNG Plant Land Troubles
Check this out...even the "Big Boys" can't seem to get away from property ownership demons in Mexico / Baja.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sempra-energys-mexic...
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DENNIS
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I'm coming to the conclusion that it's impossible to do anything in Mexico that won't be seen by somebody as illegal. Why does business even try?
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paul r
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... oh what fun!!??!!...
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Dave
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Funny stuff
Although I doubt that Mexico will allow something as trivial as 'environmental regulations' stand in the way of a lucrative multinational business
deal.
You can bet that something will be worked out. 
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irenemm
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Wow
now I don't feel so bad. We are just little guys that got screwed by the way things are done here.
I guess there lawyers forgot to pay off the right people.
Learning experience
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Udo
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I had been traveling that stretch of road for several years, and had always seen a little house trailer on the property along with an outhouse. Then,
one day, about 5 years ago, the trailer was gone, construction equipment replaced it as well as a huge amont of parts for gas storage.
I was under the impression that the job had been completed.
However...
it looks like NOT
I didn't think that Mexican nationals could go through the same tribulations as Americans do when it comes to property ownership.
Udo
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mtgoat666
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not a news article. is a press release by one litigant,... just spin doctoring.
the LNG plant will not close
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BAJA.DESERT.RAT
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Hola, please note: " Sempra Energy, a San Diego-based energy company "
they are not a mexican company according to the release but must be a very large organization nonetheless.
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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torch
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Is this the terminal south of Baja Mar? I never got to surf "georges". (semi secret surf spot).
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pepino
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Another land dispute, who would have guessed? Sempra did kind of step on it's ---- for not filing those SEC reports though.
Kill all the lawyers??
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by torch
Is this the terminal south of Baja Mar? |
Thats the one.
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Udo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by torch
Is this the terminal south of Baja Mar? |
For those not too familiar with the area...
Most of us have seen the series of multi-colored buildings at the dangerous curve, about 15 miles north of Ensenada. This are is called El Mirador.
The plant is about a mile north of there and can be fully seen if you stop at El Mirador and walk to the edge of the cliffs.
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DENNIS
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The place is huge. At night, from my place across the water, it looks like a city with a million lights.
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bajabass
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The place is huge. One building looks like a resort hotel. The docking system is huge. 100 yard long pier, horizontal to the beach, 100+ feet deep on
the outside. We know it holds fish, but they keep chasing us off. Between the
gas plant and the tuna pens, they have ruined the fishing between La Salina and Sausipuedes!!
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noproblemo2
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One of our renters last year was an Engineer there, he said more construction was beginning the first of this year and within the first few months of
operation the place had already paid for itself. Also mentioned the mansion being built for the execs when they come down which is ocean front with
everything imaginable on the estate to include its own helipad........
[Edited on 6-18-2010 by noproblemo2]
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chnlisle
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| Quote: | Refuta Sempra señalamientos de “vividores”
TIJUANA.-En respuesta al comunicado de prensa distribuido el día de hoy por Gateway Media Partners en representación de Ramón Eugenio Sánchez Ritchie,
Sempra LNG, empresa subsidiaria de Sempra Energy, emitió la siguiente declaración por parte de Darcel L. Hulse, Presidente de Sempra LNG.
“Ramón Eugenio Sánchez Ritchie ha desplegado una larga campaña financiada por terceros para desacreditar a Sempra. Él y quienes lo financian han
aumentado los ataques a través de los medios de comunicación y están intentando hacer uso indebido del sistema judicial, político y regulatorio de
México con el objetivo final de extraer dinero de la compañía”.
“Las imputaciones contenidas en un comunicado de prensa emitido el día de hoy que establecen que una disputa por un terreno impacta la operación de
nuestra terminal de gas natural licuado en Ensenada, México son absolutamente falsas”.
“La propiedad en disputa fue adquirida por la empresa mucho tiempo después de que se obtuvieron los permisos para la terminal de GNL y dicha propiedad
no se requiere por ningún motivo para la operación de la misma”.
“Independientemente del resultado final de la disputa por este terreno, éste no tendrá ningún efecto sobre nuestra autorización y capacidad de operar
la terminal de GNL.”
http://www.enlineatijuana.com/ver-notas.php?id=2505&guia... |
| Quote: | Sempra rejects accusations of "freeloaders"
TIJUANA .-In response to the press release distributed today by Gateway Media Partners on behalf of Ramon Eugenio Sánchez Ritchie, Sempra LNG, a
subsidiary of Sempra Energy, issued the following statement from Darcel L. Hulse, president of Sempra LNG.
"Ramón Sánchez Eugenio Ritchie has made a long campaign financed by others to discredit Sempra. He and those who fund the attacks have increased
through the media and are trying to misuse the judicial system, political system and regulations of Mexico with the ultimate goal of extracting money
from the company."
"The charges contained in a press release today stating that a dispute over a land parcel impacts the operation of our liquefied natural gas terminal
in Ensenada, Mexico are absolutely false."
"The property in dispute was acquired by the company long after the permits were obtained for the LNG terminal and the property is not required for
any reason to operate it."
"Whatever the final outcome of the dispute over this land parcel, it will have no effect on our authority and ability to operate the LNG terminal."
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UPDATE: Mexican Court Rules To Suspend Sempra LNG Permits
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/utilitie...
June 21, 2010
By Cassandra Sweet
Dow Jones Newswires
SAN FRANCISCO - Sempra Energy (SRE) said Monday that a Mexican federal court has ordered government agencies to suspend the company's operating
permits for its liquefied natural gas terminal there, signaling that a land dispute between Sempra and a local rancher may not be moving in the
company's favor.
In an order dated Thursday, a Mexican federal district court directed Mexican government agencies to temporarily suspend authorizations for the
operation of Sempra's liquefied natural gas terminal near Ensenada, Mexico, pending further legal proceedings.
Kathleen Teora, a spokeswoman for Sempra's LNG unit, said Monday that although the company is aware of the court order, it hasn't received an official
copy of the order.
"We'll continue operations until we hear otherwise," Teora said.
Sempra's Costa Azul LNG import terminal near Ensenada, which has been operating since 2008, can process up to one billion cubic feet of natural gas a
day.
San Diego-based Sempra has been locked in a legal battle with Ramon Eugenio Sanchez Ritchie over ownership of a 250-acre parcel of land near the LNG
terminal that Sempra bought in 2006 but that Ritchie claims belongs to him. Sempra has said that it doesn't need the land to operate the LNG terminal.
The company also has accused Ritchie of pursuing ownership claims to extract money from the company.
Ritchie has insisted that Sempra needs the land to operate the LNG terminal, and that the company has wronged him and should pay monetary damages to
compensate him for it. Ritchie and his lawyers have been pushing for Sempra to shut down the plant. It was unclear how the court order will affect
Sempra's LNG terminal, which provides natural gas to a government-owned electric utility.
Ritchie spokesman C.E. Cortes said Monday that Mexican authorities are due to order Sempra to shut the LNG facility.
The order was issued in response to a petition Ritchie filed that accused Sempra of operating the LNG terminal in violation of Mexican environmental
regulations.
Teora said court officials in Ensenada allowed a Sempra attorney to view the order but didn't allow him to make a copy of the order.
After a four-year criminal trial, a Mexican court tribunal ruled May 25 that Ritchie is the rightful holder of the disputed land and ordered the
property be restored to his possession. Sempra is still pursuing the ownership case in Mexican civil court.
The dispute has raised the ire of some Mexican newspapers, which have hailed the May 25 decision as a local victory. A May 30 article in Mexican
newspaper La Jornada said that Sempra "committed real estate fraud" that was "unmasked by a tribunal."
Sempra provides the government-owned utility Comision Federal de Electricidad with about 130 million cubic feet a day of gas from the LNG terminal
under a 15-year contract worth an estimated $1.4 billion over the life of the contract, according to Sempra.
In addition to its LNG business, Sempra owns utilities San Diego Gas & Electric and Southern California Gas, a power-generation unit, a
gas-pipeline business, and half of a Commodities-trading joint venture with Royal Bank of Scotland Plc (RBS, RBS.LN) called RBS Sempra Commodities.
The two partners are in the process of selling the joint venture.
Sempra shares fell 1.5% to close at $49.33.
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Saying it lacks official court order, Sempra keeps Mexican LNG terminal open
http://www.nctimes.com/business/article_a23b1588-e0c5-51d8-a...
By ERIC WOLFF
Sempra LNG plans to continue operations at its Baja California natural gas terminal, at least until it receives an official version of a Mexican
court's restraining order, Sempra officials said Monday.
On Thursday, a Mexican court issued an order telling Sempra LNG, a subsidiary of San Diego-based Sempra Energy, to stop operations at its Costa Azul
natural gas terminal until a hearing can be held Tuesday. But Sempra never received a formal copy of the order, and its attorneys were denied a formal
copy when they went to the courthouse, said Kathleen Corbin Teora, a Sempra LNG spokeswoman.
Sempra opened the Costa Azul terminal in August 2009. Gas tankers from overseas deliver liquified natural gas to the terminal, where it's warmed and
pumped in gas form through Mexican pipelines into California.
The order stems from an ownership dispute with Ramon Eugenio Sanchez Ritchie, a Mexican cattle rancher who owns the property immediately adjacent to
the natural gas plant, according to C.E. Cortes, a spokesman for Ritchie.
Cortes said the environmental assessment for the project calls for a safety buffer zone around the plant, which is why the court issued its order to
stop operations.
Cortes said Sempra fraudulently took the property from Ritchie in 2006, but that Ritchie won a case in Mexican court against the energy company in
2009 that entitled Ritchie to take the property back.
Teora said the buffer zone issue did not apply to the parcel in dispute, and that the issue was moot, because the Mexican government lifted the
requirement.
"This challenge is based on a claim to possession of the parcel of the land. All the permits were issued before Sempra LNG (was built). None were
conditioned on ownership of the parcel," Teora said.
Teora said Sempra had a ship in port Monday, and that the company would continue to unload natural gas as normal.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE65K1LM20100621
by Daniel Fineren
LONDON, June 21 (Reuters) - Sempra Energy (SRE.N) will keep its Costa Azul liquefied natural gas terminal in Mexico running unless it is told to
suspend operations by the government, a spokeswoman for the U.S.-based company said on Monday.
Sempra LNG has been engaged in a long-running dispute over its facility in Baja California, northern Mexico, which sends gas by north of the U.S.
border by pipeline to California.
It said on Monday it had learned the claimant, Ramon Eugenio Sanchez Ritchie, had won a Baja California state court order directing Mexican regulators
to suspend the plant's permits.
"The order was issued without notice to us and in fact we were denied a formal copy by the court and we weren't given any opportunity to appear, to
argue against it, or otherwise respond," a spokeswoman for the company told Reuters.
"Until such time as we are formally told that the permits have been suspended we will continue operations ... We currently have a ship in port right
now so it would be very difficult to shut down the plant."
The spokeswoman said Sempra expected Mexican federal authorities to overturn the order, which she said could threaten the safe operation of the
facility and gas supply. None of the permits for the plant were conditional on the ownership of the disputed plot, she said.
Costa Azul, which began operations in August 2009, receives about three cargoes a month from the Tangguh plant in Indonesia.
The Tangguh Foja LNG tanker, which has the capacity to hold 154,800 cubic meters of super-cooled gas, arrived at the terminal on the Pacific coast of
Mexico on Sunday, according to AIS Live.
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Sounds like Mexico wants their land, you may use it under a lease.. but one will not own Mexican ocean front property... even if your name is Sempra
Energy
The "deal" was a bit curious from the start.. not that it would make work for Mexican folks, but that they had "sold" the land or that was the way it
had been reported in an article I read a while back..
Understood that Sempra Energy did not want to go through the hopes in the States to put this in at the Long Beach or Los Angeles Harbor in the County
Los Angeles within the State of California with its Cal EPA plus the Fed EPA.. so Baja was a jackpot.. west cost delivery, with a facility for
distribution to the United states.. such a deal..
Saw the plant when looking at property in Bajamar.. the seemed a bit too close for me.. if that plant were to go up... well, don't think I would want
to be within 10 miles of it.. air miles to Bajamar was 2.68 ....
But, hey.... they have procedures in place I'm sure.. and what could possibly go wrong.. it's state of the art, built by ................... with
......... and .........
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