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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:25 AM
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Whatever happened to the Nautica Ladder thing the Mexican government was doing some years ago? BOLA was slated as one of the spots I believe...the last time I was in town in 2005 they were promoting it. Hopefully, it’s dead in the water like the port in Colonet.
I’ve been out of the Baja loop for a while now and need to catch up!

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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:33 AM


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Whatever happened to the Nautica Ladder thing the Mexican government was doing some years ago? BOLA was slated as one of the spots I believe...the last time I was in town in 2005 they were promoting it. Hopefully, it’s dead in the water like the port in Colonet.
I’ve been out of the Baja loop for a while now and need to catch up!

Tom


Most of the effort was done at Santa Rosalillita, wide paved road from Mex. 1, small harbor, boat picking crane... paved pullouts along the road to L.A. Bay so cars could pass the boats being trailered across the peninsula... :lol:

They counted on a rich yachtie cliental to pay for the service... :lol:

U.S. Economy crashed, people live on yahts as a cheap method of survival, and few would even dream of allowing some truck driver to take their yacht across the peninsula is my guess!

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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:35 AM


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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:44 AM


"U.S. Economy crashed, people live on yahts as a cheap method of survival"

That is funny, I never thought about surviving the economy on my yacht, maybe my dingy, but never my yacht :lol::lol::lol::lol: JH
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:45 AM


project dead in the water. the existing Singlar marinas are functional but for sale.



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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:48 AM


No rent or house payment on the ocean... If in a marina, then they have found that cheaper... The few who I know with yachts are very thrifty and not rich. Regardless, there is NO customers for the Escalera Nautica.



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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:55 AM


Good question Tommy. The project (what's left of it) is now called The Sea of Cortez Project. The proposal moved away from the Baja Pacific steps to enhance marinas on the mainland. Not a bad idea because they all need more help to expand but I think the whole thing has bogged down. Maybe that's best for everybody. The first long boat trip for gas from SoCal is now Turtle bay but that's almost 400 miles so the plan was to make a floating fueling station somewhere around Colonet. Nature still bats last and I doubt that Mexico (or others) could make that work in the raging Pacific so the very first step was daunting to say the least.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 10:04 AM


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"U.S. Economy crashed, people live on yahts as a cheap method of survival"

That is funny, I never thought about surviving the economy on my yacht, maybe my dingy, but never my yacht :lol::lol::lol::lol: JH


Or my kayak.:lol:
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 10:19 AM


I have been told that the "new, wide highway" between Santa Rosalillita and Highway 1 is plenty adequate for the landing of very large airplanes, which may've been part of the game plan from the start.

The Nautica Escalara project by Fonatur also funded the beginning of the Costa Baja marina development in La Paz, which is now dominated by private money, having just received a 20 million dollar construction loan from HSBC, on top of the already enormous loans supplied by other sources, public and private. Presumably, HSBC knows what it's doing. I hear it's theoretically possible to shoot cannons anywhere around Costa Baja's satellite businesses and not hit anything, the place is dead as a doornail with much of it "closed for renovations." Funny, how brand new developments need to be "renovated" so soon after opening. I also hear that potential customers for Costa Baja have no place to park because the employees take up all the parking spaces, just like downtown, which is also dying on the vine. Lots of room for a golf course, but no room for parking. Something about this just doesn't compute.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 10:31 AM


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I have been told that the "new, wide highway" between Santa Rosalillita and Highway 1 is plenty adequate for the landing of very large airplanes, which may've been part of the game plan from the start.


since they have strung electrical lines along poles down the side of the road i wouldn't recommend trying to land a large plane.

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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 10:32 AM


a total waste of time and money. that deal would never have met the approval of serious global investors. only chumps on the gov't dime with out a clue on how to make real money in development thru valid private enterprize could dream up such a loser deal.

"The few who I know with yachts are very thrifty and not rich."

then thay are not on yachts...big boats maybe. but not true yachts.
pick up a copy of yachting mag. you'll see the diff.:lol::lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 10:42 AM


in my area near Loreto, I'm seeing plenty of yachts NOT on the budget plan in the Sea of Cortez, more so and larger every year. Singlar Escondido, with gas and diesel available at the dock in an area formerly without such service, is responsible for a lot of the increase.



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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 11:26 AM


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No rent or house payment on the ocean... If in a marina, then they have found that cheaper... The few who I know with yachts are very thrifty and not rich.


they are thrifty because their boats are black holes that suck all of the money out of their wallets :lol:
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 03:16 PM


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a total waste of time and money. that deal would never have met the approval of serious global investors. only chumps on the gov't dime with out a clue on how to make real money in development thru valid private enterprize could dream up such a loser deal.


hilarious and true.... LOVE IT!
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 04:25 PM


Not so sure about that. Perhaps the costs have or will eventually kill the idea. But, the initial concept made some real sense. The idea was to entice boaters to come down the Pacific side, and travel way up into the Sea of Cortez. The thought being that having to retrace your route all the way back was a disincentive. Thus, if you could get your boat hauled across the peninsula for a reasonable fee, you would have the opportunity to experience more of Baja in the same amount of time. Since I have no idea as to the costs of building this project, I don't know if it's financially doable. But I still think the concept made sense.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 04:40 PM


"Since I have no idea as to the costs of building this project, I don't know if it's financially doable. But I still think the concept made sense."

Howodd - you are speaking oxymarooonically.....
i think PT Barnum is looking for you. :spingrin::spingrin::spingrin:hahahahaha.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 05:11 PM


How do all those "big" boats get to lake Mead and lake Powell? Must be trucked there somehow :?::?:



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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 07:54 PM


....and on top of all that you should consider how long yer basic Gringo in a Cal 25 from Newport Beach would last in the Sea of Cortez where:

1.)30 knot winds come up without warning and from different directions in the space of an hour.
2.)Midriff tides run at 6 knots between the islands and have been known to produce whirl pools that will drown a shark.
3.)22 foot tides in the Northern Sea of Cortez that would rock said Gringo and his wife and kids to sleep only to tip his boat in its side and high a dry when he wakes up at 0200.
4.)No gasoline is EVER available as advertised and for sure NEVER on holiday weekends just when said Gringo zopilote mojado needs it most.

If that Gringo makes it home he will never be back with his boat.....his relatives might, however, show up for the memorial service held at the site of a marina that didn't get built.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 08:48 PM


Before Santa Rosalillita Harbor there was a point just south of where the harbor is now that produced great tubes that you could not always make. On the right swell the jetty on the south side of the current harbor also gets really good. The new harbor silts in easily. The harbor does not work well for boats but does produce some pretty good surf.
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[*] posted on 8-1-2010 at 09:00 PM


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Originally posted by tommyc
Whatever happened to the Nautica Ladder thing the Mexican government was doing some years ago? BOLA was slated as one of the spots I believe...the last time I was in town in 2005 they were promoting it. Hopefully, it’s dead in the water like the port in Colonet.
I’ve been out of the Baja loop for a while now and need to catch up!

Tom


I would have to say ONE of the main reasons this project failed was the perceived cartel danger.
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