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High HIV Infection Rate
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2010/sep/28/high-hiv-infe...
By T.B. Beaudeau
Sept. 28, 2010
Tijuana -
Gay men who took advantage of the free HIV testing offered during a recent health fair this past September 15 gave healthcare officials a disturbing
new statistic to ponder regarding the spread of HIV infection in Tijuana.
The testing took place at the Feria de Salud staged at Plaza Santa Cecilia, right next to the Tijuana arch at Revolución and Calle 123, gateway to the
city’s notorious nightclub district.
Of the 200 tests administered that day, 20 percent revealed positive results indicating infection. Some of those tested, upon being informed of their
infected status, reacted with complete surprise, thinking that HIV infection was possible only if "one had been at it for years,” and that because
they were so young it would be impossible for them to be infected.
The president of Fondo de Asistencia para el SIDA (an organization concerned with the tracking of HIV infection trends), Lorenzo Herrera María,
offered the estimate that there are 500,000 homosexuals in Baja California and that 15 to 20 percent of them are carriers of HIV. He attributes the
increase in HIV infection partially to homophobia, which he says tempts gays to go into denial about their sexuality and to lead closeted lives while
engaging in risky behavior such as condom-less sex and drug and alcohol abuse.
Herrera María also stated that laws should be passed that provide penalties for those who try to deliberately infect others with HIV and that
clandestine, anonymous sex in gay and heterosexual bars should be banned as an effective countermeasure to curb the proliferation of the virus.
Source: El Mexicano
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clandestine, anonymous sex in gay and heterosexual bars should be banned as an effective countermeasure to curb the proliferation of the virus.
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so it's legal to bump uglies in public places?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
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clandestine, anonymous sex in gay and heterosexual bars should be banned as an effective countermeasure to curb the proliferation of the virus.
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so it's legal to bump uglies in public places? |
No one can say they don't know sex acts take place in the TJ strip clubs. You thin the dancers and patrons go to the back to do jello shots? The
sex workers in the legal TJ brothels are licensed and tested- and I don't think that's the problem. Most gay men in Mexico are married with families
because they have to conform. The 20% rate does surprise me for testing at a street fair although the TJ arch is a stones throw from the red light
district. What does surprise me is the article stated a lot of the infected were young and unaware of the risks. Maybe they think the new drugs make
an infection unimportant. Unless you a have $80 a day for the drugs- they do you no good as most of the third world has already found out.
I heard that Washington DC is thinking about mandatory HIV testing at the DMV. If the TJ rate is 20%, DC is at least double.
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Some GOOD News Everyday
AND, this is No Exception.
Rising HIV rates among At-Risk groups can simply be looked upon as their own reward for their own behavior.
It's unfortunate that it is such a slow-developing disease and so much money will be wasted on those who should have known better and behaved better.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
You thin the dancers and patrons go to the back to do jello shots? |
No, Senor. I thin' they do something else weeth the jello.
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GOING TO THE BACK IS NOT IN PUBLIC.......
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
GOING TO THE BACK IS NOT IN PUBLIC....... |
um... I'll take your word for it. And let's not make this a gay disease- it was but it isn't. Part of the problem is just that. If people don't
identify as being gay- they think they won't get it. I lost an uncle and a cousin to AIDS in the early 90's before the effective drugs came out. My
family and I know more than anyone should have to know about it. This "second" wave is out of denial and ignorance and is 100% preventable through
education and condom distribution. Blaming them isn't totally out of line in 2010 imho- but it is counter-productive to the solution.
[Edited on 10-3-2010 by Woooosh]
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who's blaming?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
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clandestine, anonymous sex in gay and heterosexual bars should be banned as an effective countermeasure to curb the proliferation of the virus.
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so it's legal to bump uglies in public places? |
I think the term clandestine would infer that they were "going to the back", as they say...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
AND, this is No Exception.
Rising HIV rates among At-Risk groups can simply be looked upon as their own reward for their own behavior.
It's unfortunate that it is such a slow-developing disease and so much money will be wasted on those who should have known better and behaved better.
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textbook ignorant &ig
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i guess i read "public" into it somewhere's.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
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clandestine, anonymous sex in gay and heterosexual bars should be banned as an effective countermeasure to curb the proliferation of the virus.
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so it's legal to bump uglies in public places? |
I think the term clandestine would infer that they were "going to the back", as they say... |
I'm sorry to criticize you in public, BG, but this is the second time I have seen you post using "infer" incorrectly. You mean "imply." 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
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clandestine, anonymous sex in gay and heterosexual bars should be banned as an effective countermeasure to curb the proliferation of the virus.
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so it's legal to bump uglies in public places? |
I think the term clandestine would infer that they were "going to the back", as they say... |
I'm sorry to criticize you in public, BG, but this is the second time I have seen you post using "infer" incorrectly. You mean "imply."
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Whatever you say mom...
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Some of those tested, upon being informed of their infected status, reacted with complete surprise, thinking that HIV infection was possible only if
"one had been at it for years,” and that because they were so young it would be impossible for them to be infected.
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Goes to show that a better public health campaign is needed.
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it also goes to show that our current stance of "circumcision prevents HIV" is so far out in left field you couldn't see it with binoculars.
Ignorance isn't bliss, folks, it's dangerous. To yourself and to everyone around you. Be informed!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajafam
it also goes to show that our current stance of "circumcision prevents HIV" is so far out in left field you couldn't see it with binoculars.
Ignorance isn't bliss, folks, it's dangerous. To yourself and to everyone around you. Be informed!! |
They are having success with that approach in Africa. Men who wash themselves carefully "under there" with in twelve hours of sexual contact have
much less chance of HIV infection. HIV infection is possible through the skin itself if there are microscopic abrasions- such as "under there". Even
as far back as WWII the US soldiers were trained to wash "under there" with their own sterile urine right away. Twelve hours is just gross any that's
why circumcision can prevent HIV infection in places where hygiene customs are horrible.
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Under "There" over There
The LAST place on Earth where we should be concerned with the HIV/AIDS epidemic is Sub-Saharan Africa.
It should simply be looked upon as another of many factors which serve to ameliorate the over-population problem among conflicting tribal
antagonists.
In fact, it should be looked upon as one of the favored factors serving to improve the societal difficulties since it is "Mostly" a disease acquired
by voluntary actions.
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by MrBillM]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
The LAST place on Earth where we should be concerned with the HIV/AIDS epidemic is Sub-Saharan Africa.
It should simply be looked upon as another of many factors which serve to ameliorate the over-population problem among conflicting tribal
antagonists.
In fact, it should be looked upon as one of the favored factors serving to improve the societal difficulties since it is "Mostly" a disease acquired
by voluntary actions.
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I hope people will pray that your brain will be restored and your typing fingers super-glued together. Shame on you for such ignorance. Educate
yourself. HIV/AIDS is the #1 priority of the Gates Foundation (watch 60 minutes last night?) not because it is a gay disease- but because it has the
ability to derail civilization.
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http://www.webmd.com/hiv-aids/news/20100923/1-in-5-gay-bi-me...
There is another recent study out by the CDC that makes the claim that 1-in5-gay or bi men have HIV and nearly half don't know it!
That's an alarming number especially when two out of the 21 cites studied that San Diego and Los Angeles were part of the study and found to have
high rates of HIV with men who have sixx with other men.
But if you look at the study the CDC went to places like gay bars where the more hardcore young gays are, and of course you might find higher rates of
HIV than the more closeted gay, bi, or married men that occasionally have sixx with other men, and more apt to use protection.
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Yes I have read about the so-called African circumcision study that claims that circumcision cuts down on HIV/AIDS by about 60 percent or even
prevents HIV in Africa.
It's a shame the study has a lot of flaws in the study. I'm not sure which study Bajafam and Whooosh were looking at? But some of the complaints I
read was that a few believed there was a hidden agenda with a few medical fundamentalists with a life goal of cutting all male newborns for religious
reasons, and hide behind these type of so-called studies to achieve their goal!
I bet some are saying it sounds far-fetched that medical fundamentalists are running around with knives looking for newborns to cut some skin off of,
but if you look at the history of
circumcision. You'll learn that circumcision was once practiced by doctors for a cure of masturbation.
But anyway countries like Brazil say the study lacks merit, and were concerned these types of flawed studies divert needed funds away from medical
treatments that might actually work for AIDS/HIV.
I know I know, this subject doesn't fit the lofty ideals of "BN" threads. You guys are too much with that, and I didn't start the subject, but I'll
go crawl back in my hole anyway.
[Edited on 10-4-2010 by JoeJustJoe]
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Bunch of B.S.
The HIV/AIDS incidence "outside" of high-risk groups is NOT rising at any significant rate and will NOT threaten to DERAIL Civilization. It will
continue to expand in 3rd World Crapholes, among Drug Users and Homosexuals and SO WHAT ! As long as it remains primarily a problem
in that context, it is actually beneficial to society as a whole having a Darwinian effect and cleansing the Gene pool.
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