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Nancy Drew
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Bad News in Cabo
found this on the fishing board:
http://www.ifish.net/board/archive/index.php/t-310314.html
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Nancy Drew
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There are definitely planes being stolen in Mexico.
http://www.acpi.org/
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This is a pretty sad story, I wonder why we're just now hearing about it. It happened 4-1/2 months ago....
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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I was doing some fishing on the message boards and stumbled across it.
Obviously reading the postings there is mention of gangs moving in there and even the locals are taking percaustions when it comes to wearing any
bling.
Carrie Duncan did a write up in the Gazette prior to this incident citing a number of problems regarding pickpocketing waiters, padded bills and
corrupt police but nothing on this incident.
I did a search on stolen planes and sure enough there was one stolen near the time this incident took place.
By the way, plane theft is way up in Mexico , came across this link.
http://www.ofainc.com/newsletters/1998/ofapg3.html
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As in any city....there are issues. Mexico is not some La la Land where innocence and peace exist 100% of the time. It has the same issues as in any
country.
See the link below and get SHOCKED at the crime map of Sacramento Ca ...its for one month. You cant see the city streets on this map due to too many
crime clip art marks!!!!
http://spotcrime.com/ca/sacramento
Yes...its too bad about the person...and the planes.....but let's stop drama queening every event that happens in Baja!
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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you have non current info - that link is OLD news
| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
I was doing some fishing on the message boards and stumbled across it.
Obviously reading the postings there is mention of gangs moving in there and even the locals are taking percaustions when it comes to wearing any
bling.
Carrie Duncan did a write up in the Gazette prior to this incident citing a number of problems regarding pickpocketing waiters, padded bills and
corrupt police but nothing on this incident.
I did a search on stolen planes and sure enough there was one stolen near the time this incident took place.
By the way, plane theft is way up in Mexico , came across this link.
http://www.ofainc.com/newsletters/1998/ofapg3.html |
Unser's plane was stolen years ago. nothing in that link is current.
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That thread was an interesting read. I know that Carrie Duncan has been ranting lately about petty crime; not necessarily physical assaults. As noted,
one poster called Carrie's second in command, who denied the frequency of crime cited by the original poster.
Here's the thing: tens of thousands vacation in Cabo every year. A few fools may tend to stay out late at the clubs, get all liquored up and become
easy prey.
That said, the Marina area is usually heavily trafficked, well- lit and in the area of this incident, is fronted by one open air restaurant after
another. Not saying it didn't happen, but it also should not become a reason for lots of folks to change vacation plans.
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Nancy Drew
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The thread is not old, it was posted this last June in 2010.
Common sense applies, if tourism is down, where do people get their money.
Do they raise all the prices so the tourist ends up paying for who is not there.
Most people in the service sector rely on tips so how do they make up for lost revenue lost tourists.
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Bet ya it economics, not drug wars...keeping the majority away.
June News? 
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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I have no access to specific details, but, my understanding, and first hand observation leads me to conclude that Cabo is holding up pretty well as
far as visitors go. The streets are certainly not teeming with pedestrians as they once were. But I ascribe a certain amount of that to the fact that
not only do most of the resort hotels have multiple on-site restaurants, but the proliferation of all-inclusives serves to keep people at their
resorts and not slinking around town.
That said, Tesoro does not exactly rank high in the pantheon of resort hotels in the area.
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mcfez....I like that crime site!
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I question the legitimacy of the story.
Even if it were true, stuff like this happens. For tourists who think this kind of violence is common, or that it could happen to them, moving on,
or staying away is what's right.
If you're a gringo wearing jewelry, carrying a ''designer purse,'' you're a target.
Tourist's visiting San Jose, Costa Rica, are warned not to carry a purse or camera on their shoulder, and leave the fancy watches and jewelry at home.
Cabo tourists might follow suit.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
Carrie Duncan did a write up in the Gazette prior to this incident citing a number of problems regarding pickpocketing waiters, padded bills and
corrupt police but nothing on this incident. |
I live in Los Cabos full time. I know a lot of local Mexicans who are in the know. I have heard nothing about this incident. Say what you want
about Carrie, but she is pretty consistent about reporting this kind of incident. She has on several other occassions. I know a gringa who has a
business in Tesoro. I will ask her and report back.
If this occured in front of the outdoor restaurants at the marina observed by hundreds, the chat lists would have been alive with the chatter.
Generally, local Mexicans don't patronize the marina restaurants, it is all tourists.
Business in Cabo has been spotty this summer. Some tourist businesses have reported their best summer in years, while others have reported a repeat
of last summer. I can tell you that as soon as one restaurant closes another one takes its place. I don't see any vagrancy on the streets. Local
Mexicans are optimistic about the coming season.
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Nancy Drew
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Did Carrie write up this story?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39795975/ns/local_news-san_diego...
This happened two weeks back where the fellow was robbed and shot.
No offense to Carrie , but her last report was nothing new. Corrupt police shaking down the tourists in Cabo has been going on for years as well as
waiters who short change and pad the bills, nothing new there.
The incidents of waiters running a pick pocket scam out of a popular bar is new.
Given that it is a resort town that is entirely dependent on tourists I wouldn't expect to find much info on this story. The woman wasn't shot , just
punched and robbed. She was just a tourist going out for dinner , not leaving a bar drunk, hence easy prey.
I would be curious how many rapes go unreported down there.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by Nancy Drew]
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I was at the Bisbee's a couple of weeks ago. I was not not impressed with the whole atmosphere. I figured a 3 million dollar tournament could have at
least had a better MC and do without the spring break drunkeness. That's another subject. As I walked around the Marina I was offered "cuban cigars"
by no less than twenty people. Half of those then proceeded to try and sell me "Mota" "Weed". If I was in charge of law enforcement I would put a
special vice unit just to work that section. If the Cabo Municipal Police had any sense of duty they would hammer that place and get rid of all the
undesirables and predators.
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My wife and I go to SJD for a vacation - I don't go to the dregs of Sacramento, or some areas of San Diego where I live. Mexico needs to step up
tourist protection or lose more tourists. I continue to travel in Baja, (just returned from Asuncion) but people who turn a blind eye to crime in
Baja need a little sand in their eye. Mexico police could stop this immediately but choose not to. I can only imagine the response here in the
states if these "alleged" incidents took place at tourist spots such as the Gaslamp area of SD. Police would smother the place to make sure tourists
still come. What does Baja tourism do - Mexicalli border, corrupt cop - fees for bringing medical supplies, - Yep I understand it's the Baja but
we're not in 1970 anymore Dorothy. These problems in tourist areas are easily solved. As someone who was charged with security for most of my career
it is not hard to fix!
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In charge of security for what ? JC Pennys?
I am .....well....more that a visitor once a year to Mexico. Having investments there....a little pad....friends. Spent years on the Mexican Rivera
(east coast). Just dont see all this "end of the world" junk .....guys like you ...are trying to shove in our faces.
Well Dorothy....Mexico needs to step up tourist protection or lose more
tourists. Same could be said for California. Moscow. Fresno. San
Francisco. San Felipe. Chula Vista. How bout them Germans that got
whacked a few years back in Fl? Fl has issues sort like Baja. Drugs.
Gangs. More drugs. Gangs. Murder. Tourist mugging. Check out the stats
about that.The tourist keep coming.
I was in the Navy. USS Samual Gompers AD37 FPO SF
Boot in SD. I remember that 5th and Broadway .....where that park off 5th was....
Barney's used to be. Hooooweeee! How bout lower Broadway...hookers, photo
rooms, topless joints. All high crime. Oh...did I say this is in San
Diego? How come the cops never clean it up? Bribes. That new Mall off 5th maybe
helped clean it up? Answer. Nope...all the naughty business went down the
street. I was in business in San Francisco. Brides - finder fees-hurry up fees-Policeman's Ball fees....is what we call crooked business practice by
officials....same as in Mexico...
".... Police would smother the place to make sure tourists still come". What planet are you from? Cops have tried that a hundred times before. So...if
there is 100 bad guys in the gas lamp area...the cops run them out of there...the bad guys become Priests and Nuns? Join Green Peace? Get jobs?
O...okay! No way are you connected to security.
And all the tourist still came...as in any town of the world.
Baja...has far less incidence that your town of San Diego.
Plain fact Dorothy. Plain fact.
Let's stop drama queening Baja and get real.
surfer jim ...crazy hun? txs.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by mcfez]
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by mcfez]
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by mcfez]
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Nancy Drew
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Well my guess is that stats for Cabo would be hard to acquire, whatever is taking place in the barrios is left unsaid. What we hear about is what
happens to touristas, and how many of them post on message boards.
My apologies to Carrie she did offer new information regarding hospitals, doctors ]
| Quote: | The police in downtown Cabo San Lucas constantly prey on foreigners, picking them up late at night and threatening to plant drugs on them if they
don’t give them money. The city police also are known to force tourists to go to an ATM and draw out hundreds of dollars to give to them. Many of the
gas stations, especially those close to the airport, short change the tourists who drive rental cars. Many times doctors and clinics extort large
amounts of money from our visitors, and if they resist, the police are
hired by the hospitals to scare the money out of the foreigners. Many doctors will not sign the documents necessary by insurance companies to air
evacuate a foreigner out of the country until they are paid thousands of dollars in extortion. And where can these foreigners turn to? The law? The
law is the problem. One foreigner, a Realtor in Cabo San Lucas, went to the Ministerio Publico for help and the Ministerio Publico told him he could
make the problem would go away if he were given $40,000 pesos! Extortion by what we would call the district attorney’s office!
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taken from the baja forum http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=45080&pag...
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thread schmead....................................
| Quote: | Originally posted by Nancy Drew
The thread is not old, it was posted this last June in 2010.
Common sense applies, if tourism is down, where do people get their money.
Do they raise all the prices so the tourist ends up paying for who is not there.
Most people in the service sector rely on tips so how do they make up for lost revenue lost tourists. |
you missed my point "Nancy" - Unser's plane was stolen YEARS ago. My friends in San Carlos are personaly friends of Bobby's.
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Cabo is getting more dangerous, and not just for tourists, the son of a Mexican contractor that I know was recently robbed and knifed there while
walking down the street minding his own business, resulting in serious life threatening injuries.
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