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David K
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Dirt road 6.8 miles south of Punta Prieta
I was asked to help find a road that was once on the Auto Club map, but no more...
It is the road from south of Punta Prieta (the town) on Hwy. 1 to the graded dirt highway leading north from Santa Rosalillita.
6.8 miles south of Punta Prieta is La Bachata... an abandoned house with triangle shaped windows, I recall... This is just before Hwy. 1 turns left
and climbs up the hill.
Leave Hwy. 1 here or just before, and head over to the old main road, then work down the valley towards the west.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by David K]
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David K
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Here is the 1990 Auto Club map showing the road... It is 14.2 miles from Hwy. 1 (La Bachata) to the coastal dirt highway.
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Mike99km
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Just have to ask, If you can't figure this out for yourself should you be going? Was this asked in a u2u if so why post it here instead of a u2u. Why
not include the GPS points as well?
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mike99km
Just have to ask, If you can't figure this out for yourself should you be going? Was this asked in a u2u if so why post it here instead of a u2u. Why
not include the GPS points as well? |
Because there is nothing 'secret' or 'private' to providing a road report.
I was asked to show the satellite images, and so it needs to be on the board.
Why is showing a dirt road in Baja a problem?
Why do people buy maps and guides if they 'should know' these things automatically?
Baja Nomad is here for enhancing and sharing the Baja peninsula with fellow Baja enthusiasts, which is what I am doing.
No offence intended, but I don't get why it is okay that you know where this road is but not another Baja Nomad who is just seeking a short cut to a
favorite beach... which saves gasoline... and is thus good for the enviroment!
Have a nice day... remember: Giving is good!
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Mike99km
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There are no secrets but the things I value the most I worked the hardest for. That includes research and fact finding and the doing.
I hope you never show up a your island and have 20 other camps.
I hope you never hear one of the camper's say " We thought about coming here before but didn't think we could make it but when we read about how easy
it was, we decided to try". Yes, we pulled them out later.
While watching a bar being built I hope you never hear your wife say " I m done here, I will not watch paradise be paved. It sucks when she says the
same thing 7 years later when the first house goes up on another point.
How about walking up a dry wash bed and seeing nothing but TP flags.
These are a few examples that have happened to me.
I understand that we must embrace change. If you're in a little town or own a place that benefits tourist. Tell me all about you place and I will
recommend it to others. Might post to check the (point, island,beach) north of this place and let the reader discover something themselves.
Sitting around a fire anywhere I will give you all the beta you could ask for. I would not yell it for the rest of the camp to hear. Posting on Nomads
is YELLING. It's not about sharing something one on one, It's about taking the adventure out of it. Making yourself look like the "Baja Guru".
David, you not could have sent a e-mail or even set it up on your board? If this guy can't figure out how to use Google maps or isn't ready to make a
few wrong turns to get somewhere should he be going in the first place? You seem to love doing this stuff why take that adventure from others?
I don't think you have anything invested in the pacific side at all. You mostly drive around and post it all here.
Some of us have watched some very cool places go to hell, places that we've been going to and enjoyed. I get peeed at the way you flow out the
information with little concern for what will happen.
I sad part is you will never understand what I am trying to say.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by Mike99km]
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by Mike99km]
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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David K
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Mike, I have always shared Shell Island and all the places I have enjoyed in Baja... and have never regretted it. If I found 20 others camping on
Shell Island I would be happy that they had gotten there and share a beer with them. Why do you hate Baja loving people?
I have no idea why (some) surfers think once they find a place they like then the sharing should stop (but how did they find it?)... It isn't even
your country, let alone your property... and of the 365 days in a year, do you really ever have a problem riding a wave or is is solid with surfers
and no room for you?
The ONLY thing you should worry about is the Mexican Government who has built a 2WD graded highway from Santa Rosalillita to Bahia Blanca... It is
GOOD ROADS that bring all kinds of people in, NOT posts on Baja Nomad. NOTHING I have done has changed conditions in the Seven Sisters. So, don't give
me so much credit... Why do you deny your fellow Baja Nomad brothers and sisters from enjoying any part of Baja? Is all you know how to do is take and
cannot give... even a little?
Also, no mention of surfing, beaches or the ocean was given... just a short cut road someone wanted to see. You fussing is just drawing more attention
to this... I would be happy to remove it all since the Nomad has seen it... but you being un-nice and calling me names has about changed my mind.
Apologize, and I will remove the sattelite images, okay... is that a fair trade?
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woody with a view
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EXACTO!
remember DK, there are numerous guys waiting to come bumper to bumper with you out on a single track........ not just on the left coast, either. this
is why.
get out the popcorn, folks..... 
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | | 2WD graded highway from Santa Rosalillita to Bahia Blanca... It is GOOD ROADS that bring all kinds of people in |
been down it lately? i'll bet 2 in 10 gringos in 2wd would be stuck within 2 miles of the silt beds from north or south. stick to your side of the
peninsular divide.
p.s. in 2010 we've spent 17 days in the region and even with my fotos all geographic locators have been cropped. yes, maps are out there, but it takes
a robust set of balls to take a dirt road for the first time.
unless DK has posted turn by turn directions in the past 6 months. GET IT?
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by woody with a view]
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by woody with a view]
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mcfez
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Posting on Nomads is YELLING.
Well....why you think most of us are here? To share information with others!
Secret little spots a dirt road leads too .....hummmmm.
Secret? How bout the guys who made that dirt road (for a reason). The "others' like me that drives down roads to "see whats down there". How bout them
big ol chunks of metal up in space giving out imaging from space (Google maps). Same goes for trails. Secrets? Naw. Limited access maybe.
Thanks to people on this BN....I have found some really cool places, and NOT found some really bad places....saving the day.
Hell...I shared a great "secret" fishing hole last with the gps pointing to it. Secret...was it? Maybe to the other hundreds guys before
me....thought it was secret....Limited access.
Real world dude. There be Limited access areas for you till the day you croak. Baja....she is very big.
Leave the maps up David.
[Edited on 11-3-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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motoged
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Now, Boys.....
I thank Dave for his open sharing of such info....and Woody equally for his private sharing (which I have kept to myself).
Let the guys with small balls get stuck in the silt....and wave as you go by.
Let the guys with big balls get stuck in the silt and push themselves out
I tend to do lots of my own researching for adventure, and don't like folks playing in what I would call my private sandbox...so I appreciate the
feelings of intrusion (as I wish the world to be mine, and shared sparingly with the few that deserve the grace of my company  ).
But the world is infected with a virus (human beings) that spreads chittickets, beer cans, diapers, and bad juju all over...
I doubt too many folks take David up on the roads he posts....simply because not too many folks read this forum....lots more just pound down roads
lookin for what's next....let them get stuck....it's part of the adventure.....surfers probably have their internal GPS's set for potential
sites....or listen in to their flipflop telegraph.
I hope I meet up with both you guys sometime down there....not bumper to bumper, but smile to smile....once you realize that dirt bikers aren't the
punks o' dirt some folks think they are
Don't believe everything you think....
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woody with a view
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if you bring a board on a bike, you earned it.
BTW, for the hundredth time. no one is claiming anything for themselves. just leave a little to the imagination for the next guy. it's all out there
and now the season is getting under way. shawn styles tells everyone 3 days in advance when the next swell is coming, numerous websites will give you
updates......
i guess i'm just a CULERO on a single track, with a single track mind. i'm going to do my best to ignore this thread, as it's been beaten to death.
DK, someone asked you (in private, i assume!) to do the heavy lifting for them. if i ask you to jump off a spot at Sunset Cliffs, will you?
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motoged
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Woody,
If I could, I would surf the silt with the bike under one arm and a case of El Indio under the other
I hope to see that coast this Feb on the bike....didn't do it last year, so am promising myself this time  ssshhhh
Don't believe everything you think....
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Mike99km
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I enjoy most people, especially Baja people. I hate when somebody is YELLING to make them selves seem important. This is the thread I just got tired
of not saying anything. Most of the time I ignore your post and move on. When you quit going some place because you can't get on the beach or the
beach is so full of trash then think of this.
This has nothing to do about The Sisters or anything related to surfing. It's about you and your ego and your need to take the adventure out of a Baja
trip. I'm just calling you on it. Telling somebody where to turn or how to get someplace is B.S. If they can't figure it out, should they go there?
You love to post about things that you have little clue about other than what a map or what you see on Google or you drove down the road ? years ago.
What I am saying is, send a Email or a u2u instead you post here so you can be special.
I used to believe that there was a place for everybody in Baja. That we all could share, I was wrong there are to many a~~holes and they will not
share.
I have problems when these A~~holes,they don't understand the people, take the pristine environment for granted.
YOU ENCOURAGE THEM!
I have supported the local I have come to know. I have encourage good people to go to remote places, others will never hear of it.
You give them a road map with notes on so they can F~~~up another place. You post it here so all a~~holes can see it.
You claim it's to help people, to give. I say fine, if they can put on their big kids pants and figure out what's up, I have cold beer and would love
to share.
When they show without a clue let Darwin's rules apply.
What you will never understand is you yelling is annoying and encouraging people that would never go someplace to go.
If bad roads bring good people and good roads bring bad people. Why do you want more bad people?
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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David K
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Yelling? I capitalized 5 words to help them stand out of the hundred I typed... Yelling is when ALL the words are in CAPS... get it?
Woody, it is so funny how you can choose to be nice one day and mean the next...??? I don't threaten you, don't threaten me.
When you wanted details on Gonzaga Bay or other places you didn't know about (and got it)... the kind you would freak if it was Blanca Bay, you didn't
mind it did you? I got a few u2u's with people that couldn't believe the hypocracy of your posts here... asking for details and getting them.
It is all Baja, and this is all Baja Nomad... Because you like one place to surf that youiwent to a first time once... you don't want anyone else
there? Then buy it and built a fence.
My post was NOT about any surfing ... It was about a DIRT ROAD. Get over this need for controlling what other Nomads can see here.
Keep responding to this dirt road thread, and it keeps it bumped to the top... you surf dictators can be nice, and I have offered to remove the
satellite images... Although they do not show anything that should concern you... just a road in the desert.
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"Can't we all just get along"?....Rodney King...
Woody, I get it, I know why......99 out of 100 (probably more) people will never put forth the effort to get off their ass and go anywhere. The few
who do already know where to go, how to get there etc. There are any number of publications detailing how to go anywhere on earth that one would want
to go.
I have secret places that I go that I would like to keep to myself....there's probably hundreds of people that think that it is their secret place
too. I was a surfer back in the day(1970's) was even on the surf team at Morse High, and me and all my buddy's talked about some day going to Baja and
surfing seven sisters and San Junacio. We made it as far as KM 38.....ran out of pesos. Point is that these secret places have been known for many
years, the thing that separates the posers from the doers is the gumption (am I dating myself with such a word?) to get off your ass and go. You do, I
do, most don't.
The past 20 years or so I've been more into off road riding and fishing in Baja. Most of the cool trails and good fishing spots I have found with help
from other riders or fishermen (fisherpersons). I would be happy to share my secrets, favorite spots, special techniques etc with my Nomad brethren
because what I have learned and what I have experienced has brought me great pleasure. Most Nomads don't live here and those who do don't seem to get
out much so I don't feel threatened by sharing what I know. I'm a lucky guy, but I've worked hard for my "luck".
motoged, My son and I will be doing a Baja adventure ride out of and returning to Ensenada the last week of December and first week of January. I will
be bringing my bike (690 KTM) back to Buena Vista after we finish. I know you are planning a ride down this way, maybe we could get together and ride
some secrete trails.....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mike99km
If bad roads bring good people and good roads bring bad people. Why do you want more bad people? |
Huh...
I DON'T (yelling now, yes)... If you knew an ounce about me it is that I love bad roads... it means good people are on the other end...
The Mexican Government is building the good roads... I love roads that require 4WD, deflating tires, A-TRAC or lockers... See our Mision Santa Maria
trips... and Shell Island trips, etc.
It is the government you can direct your anger at... I have NOTHING to do with graded or paved roads being built... I would like to discourage it. I
like bad roads.
The roads to and along the Seven Sisters have been on maps and guidebooks for 50 years! No hords of people there from that.
The paving into Santa Rosalillita, the graded road north, the other graded road to San Jose and Santa Catarina, Canoas were all done by the
governmemnt... and that is how 'all kinds of people' can get to 'your' surf spot... not a 14 mile piece of dirt road I showed above...
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........Then buy it and built a fence.
OH Gods! What a great come back.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Mike99km
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I have already said there are no secret places. Some are a little harder to find.
David please pay attention, and do not read anything into my post. I don't have issues with going somewhere any telling a some friends about it.
Posting about it is here is the same as yelling.There are 10 good folk that read it and 2 A~~holes, I'm care about The @ A~~holes if you spent more
time in baja maybe you would too.
(Don't pull the time thing out be both can play that game. I have 60 days in last year and grandparents that drove to the tip in 57.)
I don't care about The Sisters or any other surf or fishing spot.I can take care of myself. My issue is your posting when ever somebody asked a
question you chime in. People read your stuff and sally forth without a clue thinking its current.
You love bad roads but you have this need to tell the world about how bad it was and how to get around it! That's the part I don't get.Let me figure
it out, that's why I go there.
David, I not mad with or at you, I'm tired of you posing as the "Baja Guru" With out of date info. and repost.I have walked away more times than I
should have about your info. today I didn't.
If you don't believe all the info about Baja hasn't had a impact go to the spur or the east cape or todos. I call B S on that.
To all else: How about one of those special places closed or full of bad or indifferent people. It will take the special right out of it.
I have no issues with campfire stories and getting hooked up about a place. I have and will continue to pass on beta about someplace to good folks.
I have big issues when David is telling the world to go someplace when 1/2 the time he has not been there in a couple years. I meet these folks and
spend time helping them out.
David, I know this will not slow yourself appointed mission down.
One day you will reap what you sow.
"Never teach a pig to sing, it frustrates you and it annoys the pig." W.C. Fields
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Mike99km
I have already said there are no secret places. Some are a little harder to find.
David please pay attention, and do not read anything into my post. I don't have issues with going somewhere any telling a some friends about it.
Posting about it is here is the same as yelling.There are 10 good folk that read it and 2 A~~holes, I'm care about The @ A~~holes if you spent more
time in baja maybe you would too.
(Don't pull the time thing out be both can play that game. I have 60 days in last year and grandparents that drove to the tip in 57.)
I don't care about The Sisters or any other surf or fishing spot.I can take care of myself. My issue is your posting when ever somebody asked a
question you chime in. People read your stuff and sally forth without a clue thinking its current.
You love bad roads but you have this need to tell the world about how bad it was and how to get around it! That's the part I don't get.Let me figure
it out, that's why I go there.
David, I not mad with or at you, I'm tired of you posing as the "Baja Guru" With out of date info. and repost.I have walked away more times than I
should have about your info. today I didn't.
If you don't believe all the info about Baja hasn't had a impact go to the spur or the east cape or todos. I call B S on that.
To all else: How about one of those special places closed or full of bad or indifferent people. It will take the special right out of it.
I have no issues with campfire stories and getting hooked up about a place. I have and will continue to pass on beta about someplace to good folks.
I have big issues when David is telling the world to go someplace when 1/2 the time he has not been there in a couple years. I meet these folks and
spend time helping them out.
David, I know this will not slow yourself appointed mission down.
One day you will reap what you sow.
"Never teach a pig to sing, it frustrates you and it annoys the pig." W.C. Fields |
Mike, I do not hide the dates of my trips... It is obvious that you don't really read my posts that fully or my web sites... which all have dates of
my trips. If people don't realize conditions can change from one year to the next, then they will get a surprise. Baja is full of surprises.
Another thing, even in this post you seem to think this false statement: "You love bad roads but you have this need to tell the world about how bad it
was and how to get around it!" HUH??? This thread was about an unimproved desert road that is no longer on the AAA map... because a 'good road' has
replaced it. I showed where that bad road is to avoid the good road! The only bad thing is the good road the Mexican government buit... same thing
with Cabo, my posts on Baja Nomad clearly are anti-Cabo, yet you want to think this:
"If you don't believe all the info about Baja hasn't had a impact go to the spur or the east cape or todos. I call B S on that."
The info I post about Baja is for backcountry driving, camping, history, exploring... NOTHING to do with anything Cabo or Todos Santos offers.
I am sorry you think my sharing old and new trips with other Nomads is destroying your piece of Baja, but I can assure you it is not my doing...
Things will change and you can blame whatever you want, but they still change. You need to adapt or move on, otherwise you won't ever be happy my
friend.
Now, to offer an olive branch... I will remove the satellite images of the bad road and modify the thread title so as not to name a point on the
Pacific that the requesting Nomad goes to that was looking for the old way in.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
remember: Giving is good! |
excepting STDs and directions to secret surf spots
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