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David K
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Illegal eviction in Puertecitos
Wow... and this just days after reading so many nice things about the Orozco family posted here on Baja Nomad!! 
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capt. mike
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this is nothing new for mexico.
if you want guaranteed rights stay in USA as a citizen. Mexico is 3rd world and is not going to change.
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shari
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what do you mean by "other owners"? do 2 parties own it? Were they a mexican family who got evicted?
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mcfez
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Wow...
So I see you are one of the owners of the Cowpatty....which is nearby, and you probable get all of the daily scoop as I used to when I owned a bar.
How did you get this story? A friend? Word of mouth?
I find this story a little off. "No credentials were presented". Was it the local town cops involved?
Conflicting statement:
*The were never given an opportunity to appear in court.
*Puertecitos is in the Ensenada Municipal and these leases are in litigation with that jurisdiction.
Sorry....I'll reserve judgment on this. I find it to be a one sided story.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Cypress
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Gave buying in Mexico a lot of thought, a lot. Looked at plenty of places etc. There was always a little something that didn't seem quite right. Plus,
I couldn't afford any of 'em at the time.
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mscowpatty
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No judgement expected...just an open dialogue to make everyone aware that these things can and do happen.
I have been "Cowpatty" for over 30 years. I helped Richard start the bar but he owns and runs it......It's a namesake...this is not idle bar talk
Please note, local police were involved. The "judge", and two others did not present any identification or proof of who they were. Of course the
police uniforms were self explanatory.
I am the source of the story, I was there.
These are Americans with current Rentistas. Yes there is another Mexican owner of the land.
The lease in litigation has been ongoing in Ensenada and pending. This eviction was processed thru the Mexicali municipal which does not have
jurisdiction in Puertecitos. More than one way to skin a cat so they say.
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[Edited on 11-12-2010 by mscowpatty]
[Edited on 11-12-2010 by mscowpatty]
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mcfez
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So Mexicali authorities jumped on Ensenada's turf ?
Mmmmm.
My dog(s) will pee everywhere here on this farm...to mark their turf. No other dog will stray into this area.....otherwise....all hell breaks loose
over turf. My dogs win every time.
The dogs from Ensenada should be peeed. Have you contacted them
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mscowpatty
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Yes, documented, photographed and sent to all the appropriate places. I just think we should keep the dialogue open and discuss what's going on
around us.
Even though this is a "third world" country, I believe Mexico is trying to do better. If no one says or does anything it will never change. Just
like paying the officer rather than going to the police station...
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David K
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Thank you Patty!
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mscowpatty
Yes, documented, photographed and sent to all the appropriate places. I just think we should keep the dialogue open and discuss what's going on
around us.
Even though this is a "third world" country, I believe Mexico is trying to do better. If no one says or does anything it will never change. Just
like paying the officer rather than going to the police station... |
Well good luck to you Ms CowPatty. Go bite em!
Hey...what hours and days are you opened, DavidK looks like he's dying of thirst.?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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David K
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Yah... cold Pacifico, Tecate or XX please!
Patty used to do a regular Puertecitos news update page over on Fred Metcalf's board... but not for a few years... Perhaps we can convince her too
post regular Puertecitos news here on Baja Nomad???
http://math.ucr.edu/ftm/bajaPages/Correspondents/Puertecitos...
[Edited on 11-12-2010 by David K]
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Yah... cold Pacifico, Tecate or XX please!
Patty used to do a regular Puertecitos news update page over on Fred Metcalf's board... but not for a few years... Perhaps we can convince her too
post regular Puertecitos news here on Baja Nomad???
http://math.ucr.edu/ftm/bajaPages/Correspondents/Puertecitos...
[Edited on 11-12-2010 by David K] |
Yes...very good idea. I use that area a lot...so good, fresh updates be great.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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beercan
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Nothing illegal !!!!!!!!!!!!
Renters were served in accordance with Mexican Law , and court appearances were made by any one concerned. The people in question have not accepted
the legal landowners new lease and have refused to pay any increase in rents. They were served about 3-4 years ago, along with approximately 8-9 other
renters who are the leaders of "the homeowners association.".
This situation has been going on for many years (over 6) and is creating many hardships for the remaining property renters.
As I understand it, the non payor was removed in accordance with a court order.
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by beercan
Renters were served in accordance with Mexican Law , and court appearances were made by any one concerned. The people in question have not accepted
the legal landowners new lease and have refused to pay any increase in rents. They were served about 3-4 years ago, along with approximately 8-9 other
renters who are the leaders of "the homeowners association.".
This situation has been going on for many years (over 6) and is creating many hardships for the remaining property renters.
As I understand it, the non payor was removed in accordance with a court order. |
Well..hate to say this....but that's what I was told when I was there "8-9 other renters who are the leaders of "the homeowners association." Thanks
beercan for the info
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beercan
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I attended the original lease negotiations and the original lease was OFFERED TO ALL tenants-- the association basically told the property owners to
"shove it". Approximately 2/3's of the tenants chose to accept the new lease.
What does your greed have to do with it ?
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mscowpatty
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Also, just to expound....rents were paid to the courts in Ensenada and everyone who did so has receipts from the court.....btw, all of you who know me
know how much I have to gain from this....lol
[Edited on 11-13-2010 by mscowpatty]
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mscowpatty
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You are funny beer can
[Edited on 11-13-2010 by mscowpatty]
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KAT54
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Renters are being evicted in Puertecitos?
They had the rent increased by the owner?
They formed an association of renters?
They told the owner to shove the rent increase?
They did not pay the rent to the owner?
They payed the court?
Does the court own the land?
Do the renters have special rights not to pay correct rent?
The owner does not want to rent to them any longer?
MsCowpatty is upset?
Her clients at the bar are leaving?
No more booze money?
Does not anyone see what is wrong with this picture?
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beercan
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Thank you patty--
I am happy that you consider the truth "funny".
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You are funny beer can [Edited on 11-13-2010 by mscowpatty]
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* B. Hussein Obama - an Empty Suit for Empty Minds.
* Annoy a liberal - Work hard and be happy!
* Arguing facts & truth to libs is like bringing a warm smile to a gun fight.
* Lets win the War on Terror
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capt. mike
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i'll go with beercan on this one. he's down there and knows his caca.
hahaha.
Kat, you are back?
you ask many derift Qs?
no one answers?
hhahahahahah.
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