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halcyondays
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Need someone to build a casita
I have asked before but hoped for some better answers.
We want to have a 20ft by 20ft cement garage/studio built.
Near Todos Santos---Pescadero area.
The foundation needs to be able to support a second floor as we will eventually build on top of it.
So we want it 20 ft by 20ft
Single car garage on one side.
10ft wide by 20 feet long.
8 foot secure barn door on the end.
A wall separating the building into two.
one side garage---the other side living with one door between the two.
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On the other
10ft x 20ft side of the building.
One bedroom with two windows.
One bathroom with one small window, sink and a basic shower.
Small kitchenette along one wall....sink and area for a refrigerator and a small stove/oven.
One door coming in and out.
Very simple and all concrete with acid splash or some basic coloring.
We can do our own tile.
And we would like a sink outside with a counter for cleaning fish.
A very basic casita.
All power water and sewer is already at the lot with RV hookups in place.
Hoping for some basic quotes of what you think this would cost.
Or if you are a builder what you think you could do it for.
Last bids were way too high as this is very basic and I can even help in the building process.
I am very able.
Thanks!
[Edited on 11-27-2010 by halcyondays]
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halcyondays
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Here is an example of the living area we want.
And just add on a single car garage.
Maybe a wall and door to bedroom.
living area 200 sq ft.
Garage 200 sq ft.
[Edited on 11-27-2010 by halcyondays]
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dtbushpilot
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Come on Nomads, somebody help hal with the picture......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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bajaguy
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How to post a photo
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?fid=1&tid=485...
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tripledigitken
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halcyondays,
Send me a picture/pictures by U2U and I will post it for you.
Ken
(at the bottom of this post is a blue rectangle with a U2U label, just hit it and it will take you to a message post, just copy pic and send away)
[Edited on 11-27-2010 by tripledigitken]
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halcyondays
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Thanks Ken!
Got it handled.
Hope that helps people understand.
We don't want to buy a trailer and build a palapa if we can make a tiny little first floor for just a little more.
And being able to build up in 4 or 5 years is a good goal too!
Thanks!
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toneart
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Perhaps you are asking we gringos who cannot work in Mexico. A Mexican "contractor" will have to build it for you. You will have to get a building
permit and hold Social Security for the workers. You are the real contractor. You really need to be there during the construction too.
I am assuming you have a Fideicomiso for the land and a FM3 or FM2.
Some here may argue these points, but if you don't comply legally, you stand to lose everything...and be deported too.
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halcyondays
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Hoping some Mexican builders may examine this forum too.
As for having a contractor build---I have to pay into his social security and get the permits?
I was under the impression that a builder will get the permits---with my help.
And I was not aware I would have to pay his soc. Security?
We are in the process of getting FM3's and will not build until we have them.
Just starting the research early.
I know it's complicated.
But someone must have been through this and built a very small casita without enormous problems.
A few problems are always expected in Baja---I know-----but hoping to weed out the big ones.
And hoping to get a better price quote than I have been getting.
This should not cost $30,000 usd???
[Edited on 11-27-2010 by halcyondays]
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bajaguy
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Required Reading
For anyone thinking of building in Baja:
God and Mr. Gomez
http://www.amazon.com/God-Mr-Gomez-Building-Dream/dp/0884964...
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by halcyondays
Hoping some Mexican builders may examine this forum too.
As for having a contractor build---I have to pay into his social security and get the permits?
I was under the impression that a builder will get the permits---with my help.
And I was not aware I would have to pay his soc. Security?
We are in the process of getting FM3's and will not build until we have them.
Just starting the research early.
I know it's complicated.
But someone must have been through this and built a very small casita without enormous problems.
A few problems are always expected in Baja---I know-----but hoping to weed out the big ones.
And hoping to get a better price quote than I have been getting.
This should not cost $30,000 usd???
[Edited on 11-27-2010 by halcyondays] |
Technically, you are correct; a Mexican contractor should be the one to hold and then pay Social Security. That is, if you sign a contract for him to
do a complete package deal.
You really need to get as referral from a trusted person. Most who will offer their services as a contractor do not comply with the law, and many are
not qualified either. You are ultimately responsible, no matter what the "contractor" tells you.
Trust is a huge issue! You really need to be there during the construction. You need to cost out the materials. You can count on "contractor"
overruns; on labor, any materials he buys for you, labor costs, and time promised for delivery of the finished product.
Much has been written about this. Building in Baja is very risky. Title is very risky. You need to really do your homework, read the stories of people
who failed with building, and all the pitfalls that await you; anticipated and unforeseen. There are so many ways to lose everything. In Baja, it is a
big game. If you are not in charge....you lose!
I am sorry to sound so negative. I have been all through it. Leave no stone unturned, but mostly, you take charge and watch every aspect of the
construction. You don't have to be a tyrant. That is counterproductive and invites resentment. But, you need to observe and ask questions every step
of the way and be prepared to rip out "finished" stages and have them do it over. Do not count on your sense of logic to get you through it. It does
not apply in Mexico.
Be friends with your workers. Buy the food and the cerveza for after work, often. Party with them. Gain their respect. Have fun!
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schwlind
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Amen to that Bajaguy!... I love that book... have it in hard cover and audio...
Linda
Linda
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DENNIS
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I recently built a garage with rooms pretty much as you describe although 5 feet deeper.
Allow me to make a suggestion. Give your self a little more room on the garage side. If you don't, you'll hate yourself forever for the trouble it
will be getting in and out of your car after slamming those new doors up against the walls. I allowed 12 feet for the garage width and 8 for the
rooms.
I had a contractor build the slab which sits on a slope, five feet high at the lowest end. It was a job. I built the rest, added an electric door,
windows and still dont think I have 12 grand into the project.
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BigWooo
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Try posting an ad in the Baja Western Onion . I believe a lot of people in that area read it.
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DENNIS
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One more thing....I put a ceiling above the two rooms which gave me a loft accesible from the garage side and use that space for storage. You can
never have too much of that.
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monoloco
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Make sure you use a good contractor, there are a lot of contractors here that will give you a low bid then keep asking for more money or do a shoddy
job. Before hiring, look at several examples of their work and talk to the clients. The locals here are notoriously lazy, I have found that the
mainland crews are harder workers. I was watching a local crew yesterday that is building across the street from a friend, out of a crew of 10 there
was never more than 4 or 5 actually working at one time, the rest would be sitting in the shade. Get someone good, you will not save money by going
with the lowest bid, you will just end up doing a lot of things twice.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
out of a crew of 10 there was never more than 4 or 5 actually working at one time |
Obviously, some of those guys had a distinguished career with Cal-Trans.
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Terry28
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Listen well to Toneart, having been there as well I can say he speaks with truth and experience..Your total should not exceed around 15K...mas or
menos
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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Santiago
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Contact LongLegs
here
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tiotomasbcs
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Amigo, I have a Mexican friend who could fit your description .Rogelio Maclis is a local but does good work. He is working right now on a bodega
he started on for a friend. He speaks English fairly well and you could view his project now and talk with the owner, too. Call me if you are
in town at 612 118 1040 or u2u me. The locals are a bit lazy but I like helping the local economy here in Peskys. Just make up a signed
agreement/contract. Suerte Tomas
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tiotomasbcs
Just make up a signed agreement/contract. Suerte Tomas |
In Spanish. Otherwise, forget it.
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