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3 questions, 1:mexican builder's website
1)I had seen a website previously mentioned here of terms and procedures in Spanish to help with dealing with builders, products and tools. Can't find
it now....can anyone point me to it?
2)also, advise on a good water based concrete floorsealer, interior?
3) I had been advised to look for an exterior sealer "5 in 1" to seal stucco prior to painting. (and use at 3 to 1 ratio)
Is this product used at different ratios for different purposes?
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WOW...I thought you would be buried with answers from all of our experts. Here's something I found that might be fun to use:
http://tinyurl.com/24d7o54
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I do not know which site you refer to for construction terms, though you can simply start your own guide, by writing down words and their translated
counterparts.
The 5x1 is a sealer-it has a milky quality that creates a complete seal, it is generally required for sealing concrete prior to painting. The mix
ration creates a more complete or heavy seal, the material dries almost like plastic so, it can cover horrible messes and close it, temporarily. If
it's your techo or ceiling, if water is pooling above eventually the sealer will break apart.
Many or most Baja homes are suffering from pealing paint generally caused by poorly sealed concrete overly poorly mixed cement with poor quality
materials. Additionally salt can travel through the unsealed concrete.
I have used 5x1 with a 3x1 mixture and it has served me well over a proper mix, some neighbors have endless peeling paint, they mixed it 5x1 and their
walls were a mess prior to application.
Another concern is how clean is the water and sand you are using, the dirt in the sand and salt in the sand and water can have greatly reduce the
adhesion of the cement. A test can be done with a cup of sand in a glass jar, pour in water and shake and see how the sand settles out. Taste the
water? is is salty. Clean sand from up the arroyo the mountaintop is preferred over beach sand. A better option is to not paint at all, instead use
cement colors or stains or nothing at all.
There are concrete sealers for sale at most cement stores, they are pricey, about 1000mn for 5 gallons. Though they are used with water, they are not
water based, I mean I doubt you can clean the brushes with water or remove the material with water, I don't think. You must use only one brand/type
throughout for best application.
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Was it Rolly's site?
Rolly's bulding materials
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I've sprayed this waterbased sealer on to protect stucco and it worked well:
Glaze N Seal "Natural Look" . Very easy to use but not available in Baja. Put it in a garden sprayer and don't dilute. http://www.glaze-n-seal.com/sealers.html
For colored concrete interior floors I used this penetrating sealer, which is not waterbased because I mop often. It's been on the floors for 5 yrs
and holding up well. The only touch up I have to do is where the desk chair wheels roll over the floor.
http://www.aldonchem.com/pr-sbs-sealer.html
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I would recommend PPG Plex-Seal 4-6200 interior/exterior clear sealer. It is a water based acrylic, quick drying, durable and easy to apply product.
They sell it at FAMSA in La Paz. I believe I paid around 1800 pesos for 5 gal. I don't think that the Comex 5 in 1 sealer is a good choice for
exterior use.
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yup..that's the site thanks.
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sealer advice
an old fella is doing the stucco for me down there now..I believe it is arroyo sand. So colorant won't be included. Great idea on test for beach
sand/salt.
Will look for Monoloco's sealer product in San Jose.
What about cement floor sealer?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by volcano
an old fella is doing the stucco for me down there now..I believe it is arroyo sand. So colorant won't be included. Great idea on test for beach
sand/salt.
Will look for Monoloco's sealer product in San Jose.
What about cement floor sealer? |
Just to clarify, the product I recommended is a floor sealer.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by volcano
an old fella is doing the stucco for me down there now..I believe it is arroyo sand. So colorant won't be included. Great idea on test for beach
sand/salt.
Will look for Monoloco's sealer product in San Jose.
What about cement floor sealer? |
Just to clarify, the product I recommended is a floor sealer.
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so, do you use the same product for stucco sealing, and floor sealing? if so, different mixes? It sound as though that is how the 5 in 1 is used?
(I need interior wall, exterior stucco, and interior cement floor sealers.)
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Use the plex-seal on the floors, the 5in 1 is good for interior walls and is much cheaper, as for exterior stucco, you could use the plex-seal or a
product like Thompson's Water Seal.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Use the plex-seal on the floors, the 5in 1 is good for interior walls and is much cheaper, as for exterior stucco, you could use the plex-seal or a
product like Thompson's Water Seal. |
thank you so much for the thorough advice. I feel I'm in very good hands with it. Have to buy products there this time and avoid shipping fees,
budget is very tight.
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Before you use the Plex-Seal on the floor make sure the concrete has cured for at least 30 days and scrub the floor with 30% muriatic acid in water
solution.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Before you use the Plex-Seal on the floor make sure the concrete has cured for at least 30 days and scrub the floor with 30% muriatic acid in water
solution. |
well, what I was planning on doing, is a couple of very thin skim coats of piso sobre piso with colorant, to simulate the Skimstone product in the
usa. I have an existing rough cement slab as a floor now. i had been asking advice here on microtoppings available down there. Found advice that
little is available. Researched alternatives. Like the look and ease of the Skimstone (they have a website). then funds got more difficult, and i'm
left with simulating the product with alternatives avail there. The instructions for that product is to cure 8 hrs befor sealing. The coats are no
more than 1/32 in.
I was assuming I would probably have to use the piso sobre piso at a thicker rate because of it's consistency. does this all sound ludicris for a diy
on a permanently small budget?
Really ust want to get some sort of finsh on for now as living in cement dust is nasty. Thanks for your thought and time Monoloco
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I think you wold be pushing it to apply any kind of sealer after only 8 hours. I think that I would coat the existing floor with pegacreto then apply
the piso sobre piso in one coat, but I don't have any experience using that product. You may want to try it on a small area before doing the entire
floor.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
I think you wold be pushing it to apply any kind of sealer after only 8 hours. I think that I would coat the existing floor with pegacreto then apply
the piso sobre piso in one coat, but I don't have any experience using that product. You may want to try it on a small area before doing the entire
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the pegacreto is the cement glue, right? to help layers adhere? What sort of drying time , if any, does it need? Coverage range? thanks
And yes, I will do trials for sure..
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Yeah, pegacreto is the glue, paint it on full strength and then do the piso sobre piso right away, no drying time needed.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Use the plex-seal on the floors, the 5in 1 is good for interior walls and is much cheaper, as for exterior stucco, you could use the plex-seal or a
product like Thompson's Water Seal. |
o.k. stupid question....when I am advised to use 5/1 at 3 to 1..is that 3 parts water or 3 parts 5/1.........sorry 
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3 parts water 1 part 5 in 1.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by oladulce
I've sprayed this waterbased sealer on to protect stucco and it worked well:
Glaze N Seal "Natural Look" . Very easy to use but not available in Baja. Put it in a garden sprayer and don't dilute. http://www.glaze-n-seal.com/sealers.html
I used Glaze N Seal, the green metal can, to seal my saltillo tile and found that it is nearly half the price in AZ as it is in CA, due to VOC fee's.
I wouldn't think that the water based would make any difference, since VOC isn't an issue.
For colored concrete interior floors I used this penetrating sealer, which is not waterbased because I mop often. It's been on the floors for 5 yrs
and holding up well. The only touch up I have to do is where the desk chair wheels roll over the floor.
http://www.aldonchem.com/pr-sbs-sealer.html |
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