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beachbum1A
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Guadalupe Hot Springs
Guadalupe Hot Springs has been one place I have always wanted to experience but have been waiting for the “right time” (and the right person to go
with). Well the right time is this spring, maybe April or so. Anyway, in checking my bookmarked web site I see that Arturo’s Campo has closed (whether
by fire or a land/water dispute I’m not certain), but it looks like Mario’s Los Manantiales Campo is alive and well.
So what’s the story here? Is Arturo’s Camp still closed?
Anyone have a report on their experience at Mario’s they can tell me about? Is it even open?
http://www.guadalupe-canyon.com/campsite/campmap.html
You can see a yellow line on this map that shows the seperation between the two camps so there's no doubt as to which camp is which. What's the
current situation?
Just do it!
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mcfez
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Arturo’s Camp still closed, to my understanding. It's a family fight from what I heard. That fire up there in the same area didnt help much either
I was set to go there right before the place closed up :-(
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Cyanide41
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I have been wanting to go as well. Right now would be a great time because it's so unseasonably warm. Try this link. http://guadalupecanyonoasis.com/
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| Quote: | Originally posted by beachbum1A
Guadalupe Hot Springs has been one place I have always wanted to experience but have been waiting for the “right time” (and the right person to go
with). Well the right time is this spring, maybe April or so. Anyway, in checking my bookmarked web site I see that Arturo’s Campo has closed (whether
by fire or a land/water dispute I’m not certain), but it looks like Mario’s Los Manantiales Campo is alive and well.
So what’s the story here? Is Arturo’s Camp still closed?
Anyone have a report on their experience at Mario’s they can tell me about? Is it even open?
http://www.guadalupe-canyon.com/campsite/campmap.html
You can see a yellow line on this map that shows the seperation between the two camps so there's no doubt as to which camp is which. What's the
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The web site is from Canyonman Rob, who is Arturo's son-in-law... I have not heard of any change in the family isolating Arturo... whose camp sites
were far superior to any of the others... jealous of his success and taking advantage of his age and poor health, they stabbed him in the back... IMO.
Mario's is the former Angel's Campo #3, and is also where the source spring is located... none of the privacy that Arturo's offered, nor the water
pressure being so close to the spring'e elevation. However, if you gotta go at least Rob is working with Mario.
This site: http://guadalupecanyonoasis.com/ is the rest of the family's camps across the canyon from Arturo's...
In email exchanges with them, they claim Arturo really isn't a son of the founder and has violated the agreement with them as to how many camps he
could run... garbage like that... My reply to them asking me to camp there and promote their side, was to turn Arturo's water back on first.
Instead of benefitting from Arturo's success and getting 'over-flow' customers... they shut him down to 'force' campers to their less-than-ideal
camps. So far, I will wait until Arturo's is open again... or when hell freezes over... whichever comes first!
The fall 2007 fire didn't do much to hurt the canyon... the trees were blackened, and a couple palapas were burned. We were there after the fire... no
problema.
See trip page of Jan. 2008: http://vivabaja.com/108/
We do miss our hot tub and palapa camp 'La Jolla B', however!
Our last trip there was Halloween, 2008:
See trip report/ photos:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=35050
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beachbum1A
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David, I'm a bit confused.
It appears that there are actually (3) hot tub areas/sites:
1. Arturo's, which is closed down.
2, Mario's, which is open and reservations being handeled by Rob Williams (in Huntington Beach).
3. Guadalupe Hot Springs at this web site: http://guadalupecanyonoasis.com/ is the rest of the family's camps across the canyon from Arturo's...
Is this correct?
Just do it!
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David K
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Sorry if I wasn't clear...
Yes... that one is across the canyon from Arturo's. It is were locals from Mexicali would camp with their music blairing, but far enough from Arturo's
to not be a problem... Arturo kept a strict policy of no music (that could be heard beyond your camp)... It was great.
Mario's is just above Arturo's on the same side... it used to be called Angel's Campo #3.
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Ernesto Loya runs the campos across Arturo, El Aguila , La Rana (name of some of the camps), MArio is above Arturo,where the hot water source is
located, just as Dk mentioned.Arturos camps are the best, Im with DK in this one I haven't been in GDC since they cut the water off, Ernesto is to
pricey, and doesn't offer what Arturos camps have, privacy and rules that are inforce to keep averybody happy...
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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beachbum1A
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Thank you David K and Bajacat! Now I got it.
With Arturo's closed imdefinately it seems, the two choices are Mario's just up hill from Arturo's, or GC Oasis on the other side of the road from
Arturo's.
Has anybody stayed at either of these camps that they could add a few personal comments?
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David K
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I once stayed above Arturo's when his place was full... it was called Angel's then (now Mario's): No privacy, noisy... not worth the drive... But that
was many years ago.
Please have a great time and post the details when you get back!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I've stayed across from Arturo's twice with my family ages ago when his camp was full.....once by choice.....once by mix-up, go figure......that
sucked.
For that kind of money I would rather head down to Villarino's for a hell of a lot less and dig a hot tub in the sand than do that again.
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Because...? Noisy, lack of privacy, or other?
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Rate wise, GC Oasis's rate for weekdays is $35 dlls for 2 people, one car, and there are a choice of (3) hot tub areas.
Mario's is a bit vague; rates start at $100 dlls for 2 nights, 2 people - weekends higher & weekdays cheaper. Go figure?
Wonder if anyone might have been at either of these more recently and has some feedback to share?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
.................It was shortly after that that I doffed my shorts and I would just stand up to grab a beer or just talk and that seemed to shorten
the conversations considerably.
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Is it true what I have heard about firemen and long hoses?????
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I think that is also called girth 
| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Actually it's the diameter that really matters.......
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David KSo far, I will wait until Arturo's is open again... or when hell freezes over... whichever comes first!
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My sentiment as well. Any update????
One of the websites makes it look like a hippie colony. Wonder if I can drink Tecate while at the yoga session?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by roverdude
My sentiment as well. Any update????
One of the websites makes it look like a hippie colony. Wonder if I can drink Tecate while at the yoga session? |
My Jeep group took 15 Jeeps into Guadalupe Canyon, and it really upset the "Not a leash on my dog" hippie crowd. We saw a Subaru getting stuck on the
rocks as it left Guadalupe Canyon, and took pictures of the poor family as they stacked rocks.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by roverdude
My sentiment as well. Any update????
One of the websites makes it look like a hippie colony. Wonder if I can drink Tecate while at the yoga session? |
My Jeep group took 15 Jeeps into Guadalupe Canyon, and it really upset the "Not a leash on my dog" hippie crowd. We saw a Subaru getting stuck on the
rocks as it left Guadalupe Canyon, and took pictures of the poor family as they stacked rocks. |
When was that trip, Ken?
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Hot Spring's
It cant be much more than 10 miles from your house drive up and check it out. or better yet camp in your front yard its just as nice
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
My Jeep group took 15 Jeeps into Guadalupe Canyon, and it really upset the "Not a leash on my dog" hippie crowd. We saw a Subaru getting stuck on the
rocks as it left Guadalupe Canyon, and took pictures of the poor family as they stacked rocks. |
Most of us feel like newcomers to "our spot" are intruders. I have enjoyed outback places only to have a rowdy bunch of jeepers, motorhomers, or
campers w/ generators ruin the ambiance....
After standing back and taking pictures, did you offer some of your off-roader goodwill....or just stand there and judge them?
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
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My sentiment as well. Any update????
One of the websites makes it look like a hippie colony. Wonder if I can drink Tecate while at the yoga session? |
My Jeep group took 15 Jeeps into Guadalupe Canyon, and it really upset the "Not a leash on my dog" hippie crowd. We saw a Subaru getting stuck on the
rocks as it left Guadalupe Canyon, and took pictures of the poor family as they stacked rocks. |
When was that trip, Ken? |
February 2006 - I videotaped the whole thing. Next, I need to edit/upload to YouTube.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Most of us feel like newcomers to "our spot" are intruders. I have enjoyed outback places only to have a rowdy bunch of jeepers, motorhomers, or
campers w/ generators ruin the ambiance....
After standing back and taking pictures, did you offer some of your off-roader goodwill....or just stand there and judge them?
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Our group consisted of an extended family from Tijuana, co-workers (Professionals), not beer-guzzling rowdys tearing up the desert.
In fact, Day one consisted of a trip from Calexico to Guadalupe Canyon. Pure paradise! 
Day 2-4 Our Jeeps conquered the challenging Pole Line Road.
Standing at the top of BASKETBALL HILL
Technical section of POLE LINE ROAD
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