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gnukid
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update to US Immigration official killed, another wounded
US Immigration official killed, another wounded
Various reports have come out about two ICE agents shot in in Mexico. Sorry for including so many links-the story is vague and the details are
changing.
ICE Agents Shot in Mexico Were Targeted
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2011/0...
Local examiner refused to conduct autopsy of slain agent
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7431598.htm...
Pentagon Fingered as a Source of Narco-Firepower in Mexico
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2011/0...
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2011/02/ice-agents-shot-in-mex...
Questions:
Why is a US envoy plated vehicle traveling long distance across a foreign country unarmed and without escort as policy? Is this uncharacteristic?
Why did the coroner refuse to perform an autopsy? When has this happened before?
How did the passenger roll down the window and the driver manage to not have any shots hit his window while being fired upon through an open window
with AK47 gun inside the car-nor was door hit, (later its reported passenger Avila had two shots in the leg) and survive? The windows were bullet
proof and the vehicle was armored.
What does counterinsurgency (COIN) look like?
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/erin-rosa/2011/02/...
Now its reported the 15 attackers tried to pull the agents from the car-yet Avila survived.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7430922.htm...
The surviving officer was reported to have flown to Houston wednesday and was released wednesday afternoon. The officer who died arrived at Houston
Wednesday night? Why didn't they arrive together?
Do any other questions or ideas come to mind to you?
[Edited on 2-18-2011 by gnukid]
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The ICE agents aren't allowed to carry firearms in Mexico. Seems the Mexican govt. is afraid someone might get shot. WTF? Someone might get shot in
Mexico? Imagine that!
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This article about the incident is in today's Wall Street Journal.
<<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704546704576150793315127846.html>>
It does offer some further details.
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
-Nikola Tesla
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Don't let those gringos have guns, they might shoot someone. 
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Project Gunwalker
Related story is about Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms involvement in supplying guns to Mexico. Project Gunwalker has Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley asking questions.
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gnukid, You don't need to apologize for being honest.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by Loretana
This article about the incident is in today's Wall Street Journal.
<<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704546704576150793315127846.html>>
It does offer some further details. |
From my reading this article isn't reporting, it's entirely a farce, insinuations about what was in the mind of the alleged shooters, this is not a
report as much as a theatrical written interpretation and its not based on facts-more like a conversation on BN between campers arguing about what is
in the mind of a turtle.
From the WSJ article, which we can assume is authorized and approved by top officials as is SOP, that the observed intent of the story is a
psychological operation for counter intelligence operations in order to achieve a greater goal than can be achieved with actual hand to hand warfare,
a more efficient form of warfare-which is the policy of COIN our geo-political strategy. The result is to cause broad trauma, insecurity, fuel the
chaos and further destabilize both regions by reducing confidence in their security forces. Through this hegelian dialect, problem-reaction-solution,
they cause the problem-they offer the solution. As old of a competitive strategy that ever existed, to beat the enemy, to be smarter than the enemy,
be the enemy otherwise known as controlled opposition.
To the readers here, I apologize for being long winded, again, but these actions, the reported tragedy, the reporting, they are all so transparent,
these COIN self-defeating strategies will only end, if and when the people join in a coalition and end these tyrannical policies, or through the
achievement of the intended goal, massive collective global tyranny.
[Edited on 2-18-2011 by gnukid] |
The intended goal is massive profits for the military/security complex.
Here's a good editorial from today:http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02182011.html
[Edited on 2-18-2011 by monoloco]
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What is happening is so sad. Problem is that the US has crafted and perfected the ultimate spin machine that has been ever so successful in getting so
many people to vote against their own best interests. DOD meets Wall Street meets Madison Avenue.
As for a revolution here, it just seems to me that the erosion of middle class wealth and the erosion of fundamental liberties has been accomplished
so gradually, while all the while brainwashing people with wedge issues, that the tipping point toward domestic revolution is still a long ways off.
JMO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
As for a revolution here, |
Aside from your well mentioned point, who would the "people" of Mexico revolt against at this point....the government..or the Cartels?
It is as was said it would be...the Cartels are running those who run the country...ergo, the Cartels are running the country.
Anybody wanna buy a house..cheap??
I'm running four inch tubing under my post 'n pier casa to load with gas for the final bye bye.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
As for a revolution here, |
Aside from your well mentioned point, who would the "people" of Mexico revolt against at this point....the government..or the Cartels?
It is as was said it would be...the Cartels are running those who run the country...ergo, the Cartels are running the country.
Anybody wanna buy a house..cheap??
I'm running four inch tubing under my post 'n pier casa to load with gas for the final bye bye. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What is happening is so sad. Problem is that the US has crafted and perfected the ultimate spin machine that has been ever so successful in getting so
many people to vote against their own best interests. DOD meets Wall Street meets Madison Avenue.
As for a revolution here, it just seems to me that the erosion of middle class wealth and the erosion of fundamental liberties has been accomplished
so gradually, while all the while brainwashing people with wedge issues, that the tipping point toward domestic revolution is still a long ways off.
JMO |
Those who aren't blinded and stuck in their 1950s ideology are starting to awake from their slumber as these events unfold. But it may already be too
late. The power is done grabbed. It's a "Global" thang. They sat Obama down early on and told him under no uncertain terms who's his boss.
As individual wealth disappears, the emasculated are going to do what?... roam the streets like zombies and shake sticks at the mightiest, most
destructive war machine the world has ever seen?
Stocks? The insiders 've got that rigged and they know just when to pull the plug. IRAs? Ha! Houses? Ha! Bank loans? Ha! Pensions? Ha! Jobs? Ha!
Y'all 've voted in the crooks who have robbed you blind. Do you still feel represented? Just wait. Humble pie is getting cold but you will still be
forced to eat it. It's blatant, and it is here!! The charade is over.
We live in a so-called "Republic", and yet, the irony is that regardless of your ideology, none of us are represented.
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toneart, You're right. Too bad. Gonna get real interesting in the next year or so.
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One Thing is Certain
AND Inevitable.
The TRUE Story of EVERY one of these events is ALWAYS some sort of Conspiracy involving Government misinformation known ONLY to the Gnus.
Likely as a result of Confidential sources within the Masonic Hierarchy of Illuminatis unavailable to lesser beings.
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gnukid
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
AND Inevitable.
The TRUE Story of EVERY one of these events is ALWAYS some sort of Conspiracy involving Government misinformation known ONLY to the Gnus.
Likely as a result of Confidential sources within the Masonic Hierarchy of Illuminatis unavailable to lesser beings. |
Conversely, there is no such thing as a conspiracy, all geopolitical events happen by accident.
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Thoughtful questions, Gnukid. I have no definitive answers, since I wasn't there, but a few informed guesses.
Questions:
1. Why is a US envoy plated vehicle traveling long distance across a foreign country unarmed and without escort as policy? Is this uncharacteristic?
a) As mentioned above, US law enforcement is not allowed to carry guns in Mexico, even if working closely with Mexican LE.
2. Why did the coroner refuse to perform an autopsy? When has this happened before?
a) The Harris County medical examiner seemed to have a reasonable reason--state law prohibits doing a post mortum on a body recovered outside the US.
The appropriate examiner was one employed by the US government.
3. How did the passenger roll down the window and the driver manage to not have any shots hit his window while being fired upon through an open window
with AK47 gun inside the car-nor was door hit, (later its reported passenger Avila had two shots in the leg) and survive? The windows were bullet
proof and the vehicle was armored.
a) The WSJ article posted by Loretana says that the Suburban automatically unlocks the doors rolls the windows down slightly when the vehicle stops.
From personal experience, I know that this function is user programmable and was obviously a serious oversight by the two officers operating the
vehicle.
b) If the attackers were using solid bullets, which they supposedly have access to, then they should easily penetrate even hardened car windows, but
that was unlikely not an issue because the window was reportedly open enough for someone to stick a gun barrel into the vehicle and shoot.
The gov't seems to be surprisingly forthright about quickly releasing detailed information on this case, which has only one badly injured witness.
The motivations of the attackers may be known only much later, and we may know only when, and if, one or more are drug back to the US for trial.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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All-Knowing and All-Seeing
There are NO random Geopolitical Happenings.
ALL are planned and implemented by an Elite Cabal of International Bankers meeting secretly in an Undisclosed Fortified location wherein they engage
in Ritual Exchanges and Conspire to Manipulate World Events to Enhance their Power, Enrich themselves and their Minions while plotting to Enslave the
rest of us.
This latest Contrived Encounter was OBVIOUSLY intended to abet that process. ALL of the clues are there (encoded, of course) for
those with Enlightened (Divine ?) Gnu Knowledge to Decipher.
For which those of us among the uninitiated should be eternally Thankful.
[Edited on 2-19-2011 by MrBillM]
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The supervisors that sent those guys down there ought to be held accountable. WTF were they thinking? Oh yea, thinking. Evidently that's not a job
requirement.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What is happening is so sad. Problem is that the US has crafted and perfected the ultimate spin machine that has been ever so successful in getting so
many people to vote against their own best interests. DOD meets Wall Street meets Madison Avenue.
As for a revolution here, it just seems to me that the erosion of middle class wealth and the erosion of fundamental liberties has been accomplished
so gradually, while all the while brainwashing people with wedge issues, that the tipping point toward domestic revolution is still a long ways off.
JMO |
Those who aren't blinded and stuck in their 1950s ideology are starting to awake from their slumber as these events unfold. But it may already be too
late. The power is done grabbed. It's a "Global" thang. They sat Obama down early on and told him under no uncertain terms who's his boss.
As individual wealth disappears, the emasculated are going to do what?... roam the streets like zombies and shake sticks at the mightiest, most
destructive war machine the world has ever seen?
Stocks? The insiders 've got that rigged and they know just when to pull the plug. IRAs? Ha! Houses? Ha! Bank loans? Ha! Pensions? Ha! Jobs? Ha!
Y'all 've voted in the crooks who have robbed you blind. Do you still feel represented? Just wait. Humble pie is getting cold but you will still be
forced to eat it. It's blatant, and it is here!! The charade is over.
We live in a so-called "Republic", and yet, the irony is that regardless of your ideology, none of us are represented. |
About 4 months ago our portfolios & ROTH'S reached "totally recovered" from the March 2009 lows, and have gone on to bigger and better profits. We
stayed the course thru it all, so "buy and hold" worked for us (with a few adjustments) as usual, despite what you hear from the pundits, &
others. History repeats itself, once again!! We were "down" about 53% at it's worse in March '09. Scary!!!
Just think what I could have earned if I had been "in the know" with the "cabal". 
Barry
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Being IN THE KNOW with GNU
It "Might" be worthwhile to contact Gnu and Humbly Ask for his Guidance and Wisdom. Given his Wisdom and access to the Mysterious Inner Workings of
the Cabal, he would likely have Advance Information regarding events about to be implemented. Such knowledge could be invaluable in the World
Economic Market.
However, it might be a violation of his Blood Oath to use that Exalted Gnostic Insight for Financial Benefit.
You could ask though. Perhaps a willingness to participate in a Sacred Initiation ceremony would make you worthy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
What is happening is so sad. Problem is that the US has crafted and perfected the ultimate spin machine that has been ever so successful in getting so
many people to vote against their own best interests. DOD meets Wall Street meets Madison Avenue.
As for a revolution here, it just seems to me that the erosion of middle class wealth and the erosion of fundamental liberties has been accomplished
so gradually, while all the while brainwashing people with wedge issues, that the tipping point toward domestic revolution is still a long ways off.
JMO |
Those who aren't blinded and stuck in their 1950s ideology are starting to awake from their slumber as these events unfold. But it may already be too
late. The power is done grabbed. It's a "Global" thang. They sat Obama down early on and told him under no uncertain terms who's his boss.
As individual wealth disappears, the emasculated are going to do what?... roam the streets like zombies and shake sticks at the mightiest, most
destructive war machine the world has ever seen?
Stocks? The insiders 've got that rigged and they know just when to pull the plug. IRAs? Ha! Houses? Ha! Bank loans? Ha! Pensions? Ha! Jobs? Ha!
Y'all 've voted in the crooks who have robbed you blind. Do you still feel represented? Just wait. Humble pie is getting cold but you will still be
forced to eat it. It's blatant, and it is here!! The charade is over.
We live in a so-called "Republic", and yet, the irony is that regardless of your ideology, none of us are represented. |
About 4 months ago our portfolios & ROTH'S reached "totally recovered" from the March 2009 lows, and have gone on to bigger and better profits. We
stayed the course thru it all, so "buy and hold" worked for us (with a few adjustments) as usual, despite what you hear from the pundits, &
others. History repeats itself, once again!! We were "down" about 53% at it's worse in March '09. Scary!!!
Just think what I could have earned if I had been "in the know" with the "cabal".
Barry |
Of course, Barry. You and the market have made a marvelous recovery. I would be starting to get a tad uncomfortable about now though. 
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