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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 06:41 PM
Closure set to begin on Pacific shrimp fishery


Closure set to begin on Pacific shrimp fishery

Friday, March 04, 2011, 03:40 (GMT + 9)

The National Commission on Aquaculture and Fisheries (Conapesca) has ruled that from 23 March, fishing for all shrimp species that reside in marine waters under federal jurisdiction in the Pacific Ocean will be prohibited.

The affected area includes the Gulf of California and estuarine lagoon systems, marshes and bays in the state of Baja California Sur, Sonora, Sinaloa, Nayarit, Jalisco and Colima, stated the director general of Fisheries Management and Aquaculture of Conapesca, Martin Botello Ruvalcaba.

The decision was made based on research and the technical opinion of the National Fisheries Institute (Inapesca), as well as in agreement with producers.

This closure has two main objectives: to protect shrimp stocks during their period of reproduction and the spawning of new generations.

People from the coastal Pacific Ocean and the Gulf of California that produce fresh, preserved on ice or frozen fish products, for sale at wholesale or industrialized locations, should develop an inventory of stocks of shrimp and report to the fisheries authorities.

In addition, those interested in transporting fresh, preserved or frozen on ice fish products originating from fisheries or aquaculture in coastal areas where the ban is set, including marine littoral states and any within entities of interior states, must comply with the requirements of this Act and the Regulations of the Fisheries Act.

For its part, the Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock, Rural Development, Fisheries and Food (Sagarpa) will release the completion date of the closure through Conapesca, which will be set based on biological research and surveys carried out by experts from Inapesca.


By Analia Murias
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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 06:53 PM


So Sonora and Baja Ca. Sur are named... but not the state Baja Ca. (Norte)? Is San Felipe spared from such eco-fascism? Is the northwest half of the gulf going to overburdened with shrimpers who are chased out of the other Mexican states? Maybe it is just an oversight to leave out the state of Baja California from the list???



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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 07:38 PM


DK, why is responsibly managing a fishery "eco-facism"?
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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 07:39 PM


ditto.



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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 07:42 PM


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DK, why is responsibly managing a fishery "eco-facism"?


Because to leave Baja California out of the no fish zone would mean all the other shrimpers would flood to San Felipe to continue to make a living!!! That is crazy, not 'responsible'!

If it waas an error to not include Baja in the list, then how is halting a trade 'managing'? That is not managing... that is stopping? I didn't know shrimp were as endangered as Totuava or turtle?




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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 08:06 PM


I was under the impression that this was an annual closure to allow the stocks to recover.
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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 08:49 PM


Yes, the omission of BCN is surprising because Sonora and BCN share the same body of water. The fishermen on one side will have to know when they've reached the waters they're not allowed to fish. That opens the door for graft.

The other confusing point is a full closure to "to protect shrimp stocks during their period of reproduction and the spawning of new generations".

That suggests that they are creating a fishing season for these shrimp - a seasonal closure. Why would you need a complete closure to accomplish those goals.

Anyway, I hope it's true but I gotta see it to believe it.
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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 08:58 PM


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DK, why is responsibly managing a fishery "eco-facism"?


Because DK wanted to sound like Glenn Beck:lol:




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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 09:19 PM


I think it's done every year.



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[*] posted on 3-3-2011 at 09:24 PM


Then this isn't Baja News... if it is normal... and as long as I have been going to the San Felipe area... umm, that would be starting 46 years ago... there has ALWAYS been a shrimp season (and naturally a non-shrimp season too!

Bajaboy... Glenn who? Never have listened to him, is he good?




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 06:34 AM


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Bajaboy... Glenn who? Never have listened to him, is he good?


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He's one of those drug addicts like rust limbaugh who make a good living in the media scaring he hell out of people.




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 06:51 AM


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Bajaboy... Glenn who? Never have listened to him, is he good?


DK
He's one of those drug addicts like rust limbaugh who make a good living in the media scaring he hell out of people.


What a well informed, intelligent discussion. When you are able to pull all of the educated, informed, and sincere people either of these men pull every day on radio or TV then you may have a valid platform, until then it looks like fanatical raving of a person who disagrees.




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 07:06 AM


Okay, instead of some political rant of which side is right or left or whatever, here are the people who are directly responsible. Perhaps if enough of you caring political activists would bother to send an e-mail, perhaps they might reconsider adding Baja California and Sonora to the list.


Key people & contacts:
Jefe de Exportaciones
Mr Alejandro Godoy
Phone: +1-669 913 0889
agodoyr@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx
Mr Jerónimo Ramos Sáenz Pardo
Phone: +1 669 9130 908 al 09
Fax: +1 669 913 0907
conapesca_estadistica@yahoo.com.mx;

Mr Jesus Jardon Olvera
Phone: +1 669 9130 894
jjardono@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx
Direccion de Difusion
Mrs Gabriela Herrera
Phone: +52 669 913 0902
sinaloac@hotmail.com

Mr Cornelio Montańo
cmontanoc@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx
Lic Guillermo Barnes
Phone: +52-669 915 6900 int 1525
gbarnesl@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx

Lic Pedro Meza
Phone: +52-669 915 6900 1805
pmezaj@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx
Encargado de estadistica pesquera
Mr Manuel Marrufo Herrera
mmarrufo@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx

Encargado de estadistica pesquera
Mr Manuel Marrufo Herrera
mmarrufo@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx

Lic Guillermo Barnes
Phone: +52-669 915 6900 int 1525
gbarnesl@conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx

Direccion de Difusion
Mrs Gabriela Herrera
Phone: +52 669 913 0902
sinaloac@hotmail.com

Mr Jerónimo Ramos Sáenz Pardo
Phone: +1 669 9130 908 al 09
Fax: +1 669 913 0907
conapesca_estadistica@yahoo.com.mx;

Address: Camarón Sábalo s/n esq. Tiburón, Fracc. Sábalo Country Club - C.P. 82100
City: Mazatlán
State: Sinaloa (82010)
Telephone: +52 669 915 69 00
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 08:02 AM


I'm no shrimp biologist but it could be that shrimp don't spawn in the waters of BCN due to temperature or other environmental reasons.



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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 09:00 AM


shrimp migrate?



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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 09:55 AM


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fishing for all shrimp species that reside in marine waters under federal jurisdiction in the Pacific Ocean will be prohibited.

The affected area includes the Gulf of California and...


for the reading-challenged:
(1) it's a news article, if you want details read the source documents. reporters spend very little time writing articles, and articles are more often than not have incomplete of incorrect information. duh!
(2) "The affected area includes the Gulf of California..." sounds like that includes San Felipe

nothing wrong with eco-fascism. it is obvious that eco-democracy doesn't always do a good job of protecting the environment. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:11 AM


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shrimp migrate?


All sorts of animals (and some plants) migrate. Mammals, reptiles, birds, insects, fishes, crustaceans, cephalopods...driven by food, reproduction, density-driven dispersion and habitat.

I'm getting ready to migrate myself!




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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:35 AM


Try this website for fishing regulatory info:
http://www.conapesca.sagarpa.gob.mx/wb/cona/cona_inicio

and off-topic, here is a nice mexico weather website (actually, not offtopic, as weather relates to everything):
http://smn.cna.gob.mx/
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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:37 AM
Conservation


...is a good and necessary thing. Not something to be politicized. To do so is to perpetrate potential harm.:smug:



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[*] posted on 3-4-2011 at 10:44 AM


The argument is pointless. Closure or no closure, if Mexican fishermen want to shrimp then they're gonna shrimp.



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