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tripledigitken
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American killed in LA Bay
Does anyone have details on this?
http://www.elvigia.net/noticia/asesinan-dos-menores-ciudadan...
Condolences to his family and friends.
Google translation
Bahia de los Angeles, B. C. - An American citizen was killed Saturday afternoon in the delegation of Bay of Angels, apparently by two children who
have already been submitted to the authorities.
It was after 16:00 pm on Saturday, when elements of the Municipal Police of the delegation gave notice to the state police about the murder of
American citizen.
After the call, staff researchers, experts from the Attorney and the Attorney General, the delegation moved to above, to carry out the proceedings.
Once on the scene, had before it the body of a male person who-for versions of the locals, was a tourist who was in the delegation.
The body was found in the Casas Díaz courtyards with different blunt blows to the head and face injuries that caused his death hours later.
Because the footprints found at the scene, it was determined that the man identified with the name of Stephen Marck, 48, apparently had a fight with
several subjects.
In conducting investigations, the state police, supported by municipal, secured two minors allegedly involved in the murder.
Young people between 16 and 14 years were submitted to the Public Ministry of the civil courts to be brought to the city of Ensenada, and be available
to the public prosecutor for Teen.
Forensic Medical Service Personnel (Semefo), made the removal of the corpse, which was moved to its facilities, where they will perform the autopsy to
determine the exact cause of death.
[Edited on 4-6-2011 by tripledigitken]
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Bajahowodd
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Sounds almost incredible. Blunt force trauma inflicted by a 14 and a 16 year old. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Sounds almost incredible. Blunt force trauma inflicted by a 14 and a 16 year old.
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Not good news!
Howodd, I don't think that sounds incredible. 14-16 year olds can be pretty big, especially if they had bad intentions, surprised the guy and/or
caught him off guard...or sleeping.
Like all stories of this nature, we don't know the circumstances and all of our conjecture is worthless, until the facts are in.
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tiotomasbcs
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I'm curious as the where his family and friends were? The locals must know these kids and their backgrounds. It's always a surprise when bad things
happen in rural areas! Wasn't someone beaten up badly a year ago in La Bocana/Central Pacific Coast area?! Our sweet life here has some sharp
edges even in el Campo. Con Cuidado, Amigos Tio
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
This is a good reason to not camp alone, or go without a dog or 3 and some sort of weapon.
It is also not a good idea to get in fights with the locals. If a fight, near fight or even a bad vibe happens. Pack up and hit the road. better safe
than sorry.
This sort of thing can happen anywhere. |
Could happen anywhere, but what made it seem so incredible to me is that this sort of thuggery would seem to occur most often in heavily populated
places.
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
This is a good reason to not camp alone, or go without a dog or 3 and some sort of weapon.
It is also not a good idea to get in fights with the locals. If a fight, near fight or even a bad vibe happens. Pack up and hit the road. better safe
than sorry.
This sort of thing can happen anywhere. |
Could happen anywhere, but what made it seem so incredible to me is that this sort of thuggery would seem to occur most often in heavily populated
places. |
agreed..however it happens in rural areas as well.
if i had to put a finger on it, I would say these kids were high on crystal meth when this occured. I'd even go as far as to say they weren't local
kids, my guess they are out of towners. this would put huge shame on their families and most don't sheet in their backyards for that reason.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
This is a good reason to not camp alone, or go without a dog or 3 and some sort of weapon.
It is also not a good idea to get in fights with the locals. If a fight, near fight or even a bad vibe happens. Pack up and hit the road. better safe
than sorry.
This sort of thing can happen anywhere. |
Could happen anywhere, but what made it seem so incredible to me is that this sort of thuggery would seem to occur most often in heavily populated
places. |
agreed..however it happens in rural areas as well.
if i had to put a finger on it, I would say these kids were high on crystal meth when this occured. I'd even go as far as to say they weren't local
kids, my guess they are out of towners. this would put huge shame on their families and most don't sheet in their backyards for that reason.
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mcpez, that's a lot of guesses!
i am still puzzling over comment that a murder in a hotel courtyard is reason to travel with a militia and at least 4 dogs when camping.
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norte
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
This is a good reason to not camp alone, or go without a dog or 3 and some sort of weapon.
It is also not a good idea to get in fights with the locals. If a fight, near fight or even a bad vibe happens. Pack up and hit the road. better safe
than sorry.
This sort of thing can happen anywhere. |
Could happen anywhere, but what made it seem so incredible to me is that this sort of thuggery would seem to occur most often in heavily populated
places. |
agreed..however it happens in rural areas as well.
if i had to put a finger on it, I would say these kids were high on crystal meth when this occured. I'd even go as far as to say they weren't local
kids, my guess they are out of towners. this would put huge shame on their families and most don't sheet in their backyards for that reason.
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OHH PLS. Couldn't be some dumb and drank macho tourist, could it? Probably happened outside the bar
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
This is a good reason to not camp alone, or go without a dog or 3 and some sort of weapon.
It is also not a good idea to get in fights with the locals. If a fight, near fight or even a bad vibe happens. Pack up and hit the road. better safe
than sorry.
This sort of thing can happen anywhere. |
Could happen anywhere, but what made it seem so incredible to me is that this sort of thuggery would seem to occur most often in heavily populated
places. |
agreed..however it happens in rural areas as well.
if i had to put a finger on it, I would say these kids were high on crystal meth when this occured. I'd even go as far as to say they weren't local
kids, my guess they are out of towners. this would put huge shame on their families and most don't sheet in their backyards for that reason.
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OHH PLS. Couldn't be some dumb and drank macho tourist, could it? Probably happened outside the bar |
Even if the guy was a drunk and macho tourist, he was still murdered.
I am just saying lots of the violence/crime these days seem to involve meth.
[Edited on 4-5-2011 by fishabductor]
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the incident in la bocana never got solved ....we still don't know why it happened BUT everyone believes the perpetrator(s) were on drugs - crystal
meth is not rampant but it is very present here .....
it is also speculated that the Americans had a drug deal gone bad ??? like I said - all speculation.
and the bottom line is, the ruthlessness of the attack here was horrible. And the strangest part is that Others on the beach were not attacked and had
no idea anything untoward had even occurred.....all weird.
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Bajahowodd
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Crystal meth, eh? So, does this mean the US is going to have to legalize that along with pot?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Crystal meth, eh? So, does this mean the US is going to have to legalize that along with pot? |
god...I hope not. If that happens, I will never return to the states.
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No. Meth, unlike pot, is a very dangerous drug.
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At least they were caught, not that it will bring back the poor victum, but it seems in most cases no no ever gets caught. That's why they feel they
can get away with these horrible crimes.
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sometimes it's like beating your head against a wall, talking with that DK......
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Here in LAbay now - I knew 20 minutes after the "crime" - Not a tourist but a gringo who married a local with 2 kids years ago, - big family squabble
over drugs and one of the kids whacked his step dad with a pipe in Diaz's parking lot. They are in jail now. I was at the crime scenc with the body
about an hour after it happened. It has pretty much blown over but the locals do not want the "tourist killed in LA Bay" to become LA Times news. It
was unfortunate, but they are hurting enough without rumors flying - thank you nomads for your support - Marv
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fishabductor
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| Quote: | Originally posted by marv sherrill
Here in LAbay now - I knew 20 minutes after the "crime" - Not a tourist but a gringo who married a local with 2 kids years ago, - big family squabble
over drugs and one of the kids whacked his step dad with a pipe in Diaz's parking lot. They are in jail now. I was at the crime scenc with the body
about an hour after it happened. It has pretty much blown over but the locals do not want the "tourist killed in LA Bay" to become LA Times news. It
was unfortunate, but they are hurting enough without rumors flying - thank you nomads for your support - Marv |
thanks for the local knowledge...what a shame, and a tragic loss of life.
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uh oh!! until more information is available this thread may be headed in the wrong direction.
thanks marv for the update. what a terrible thing for that family.
[Edited on 4-6-2011 by fandango]
[Edited on 4-6-2011 by fandango]
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Wrong thread. Sorry.
[Edited on 4-6-2011 by Tano]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Wow. My wife will be happy to hear this. Not. |
I won't be telling mine...We're going there in a few weeks.
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