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moogie
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Great Baja Fishing Video
Hi all,
It's moogie.
Here's a video of some fishing we did in southern Baja.
Great stuff. . .Giant Cubera!. . .Hope you enjoy it.
Moog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HjEhitNb_o
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KASHEYDOG
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Mood: SO MANY TACOS, SO LITTLE TIME... Gotta Go, See ya there.... 
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Great video, Moogie.  .. thanks for sharing. looks like your first post too.
Welcome to Baja Nomad..
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ?? 
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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Cypress
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moogie, Thanks for the video.
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
moogie, Thanks for the video. |
thanks for the kudos. . .
Yup, it's my first post. I've been looking around the site for a while.
for a while. I've been going to Baja for the past 13 years to fish and hang out.
Not too many of us from New England go to Baja.
Mexico is an evil place to go!. . .Didn't ya know?
Moog
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Udo
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Great place to hang out...huh, moogie?
BTW nice roosterfish!
Udo
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
Great place to hang out...huh, moogie?
BTW nice roosterfish! |
Ya, great place to hang out. . . .Fishin', Tequila tastings, good food, warm weather. . . .Why am I here?
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Skipjack Joe
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Captain Moogie,
You're a sad excuse for a fisherman. You know that. People like you shouldn't be allowed to fish.
I hope you never post here again.
There are plenty of sites where your form of barbarism is lauded.
You may catch big fish but you're no fisherman in my book. There's a difference between blood sports and butchery to most fishermen. But you don't
seem to know it.
Bah. Wish I hadn't opened that video.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Captain Moogie,
You're a sad excuse for a fisherman. You know that. People like you shouldn't be allowed to fish.
I hope you never post here again.
There are plenty of sites where your form of barbarism is lauded.
You may catch big fish but you're no fisherman in my book. There's a difference between blood sports and butchery to most fishermen. But you don't
seem to know it.
Bah. Wish I hadn't opened that video. |
WTF? I'm afraid you've gone waaay over my head with that comment. maybe you've never caught Humboldt squid, but if their brethren don't consume him,
a marlin or yellowfin will.
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JaraHurd
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Skipjack...when i watched it I was waiting for some of the antics you refer to ..but, to be fair, I don't think they were that bad. I am hoping all
the roosters were quickly released after photos...i personally only keep one or two fish when i fish because I love eathing fish..but..I don't think
the video what that bad...but I do appreciate people like you considering the issue that you refer to. I have seen way too many greedy and "ugly"
fishermen in my time...but..i give these guys a pass....but I know what you mean...
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Captain Moogie,
You're a sad excuse for a fisherman. You know that. People like you shouldn't be allowed to fish.
I hope you never post here again.
There are plenty of sites where your form of barbarism is lauded.
You may catch big fish but you're no fisherman in my book. There's a difference between blood sports and butchery to most fishermen. But you don't
seem to know it.
Bah. Wish I hadn't opened that video. |
Senor Skipjack,
Thanks for the reply. I applaud all comments however, I'm curious as to why you trashed me.
From what I can see, you fish too. Do you not use fish hooks?
Do you not use a gaff? Do you not use bait?
How do you fish?
In all my years in this industry, I have never had anybody say anything like that about me. Blood sports? Butchery? Barbarism?
I guess there's a first time for everything.
I think an explanation from you would be fair and necessary.
Since I offended you, I'm confused as to why. . . .After all, it's not like I'm slaughtering Manta rays off the beach in Las Arenas.
So, in conclusion, what did I do wrong? All I did was invite my fellow members to share a look at a Baja fishing video.
Moog. . .the Barbarian.
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bajafreaks
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Great video, just made my morning. I'd go fishin' with you anytime. Welcome to the Nomad.
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Me thinks that senor skipjack is pulling your leg.....dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Maybe gaffing the squid, then hacking your lure out of it's tentacles and letting the squid sink to the bottom got him a bit riled up. It didn't
exactly give your video a warm and fuzzy intro. Squid are good eating if prepared properly, and there is also an active Mexican commercial fishery
for those squid (Korean market). And hopefully Moogie will confirm that all those roosterfish were released after the deckside photos . . .
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Great video
Mas Pacifico
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I don't get why you'd cut off the body off the squid and just take the tenacles?? The body is excellent bait as well as excellent to eat when prepared
properly.
There is a large domestic market for them and that would have fed a family or 3.
How did you catch those roosters? live bait or poppers? That location is directly in front of the estero just south of the marina, judging by the
video and the background.
One can stay at the Presidente and fish those waters off the beach, it is only about a 10 minute walk north.
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajafreaks
Great video, just made my morning. I'd go fishin' with you anytime. Welcome to the Nomad. |
Gracias amigo. . .
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ElCap
Maybe gaffing the squid, then hacking your lure out of it's tentacles and letting the squid sink to the bottom got him a bit riled up. It didn't
exactly give your video a warm and fuzzy intro. Squid are good eating if prepared properly, and there is also an active Mexican commercial fishery
for those squid (Korean market). And hopefully Moogie will confirm that all those roosterfish were released after the deckside photos . . .
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Thanks for the reply. Mucho appreciado. . .
I make a lot of fishing videos, and every now and then, a viewer finds one distasteful. It comes with the territory. . . .99% of the time, it's always
a non angler that doesn't like it.
All of my Humboldt squid fishing adventures in Baja, have been the same. Some may call it a slaughter, some may call it carnage in it's purest form.
Man against beast.
No chivalry in Baja.
All of the Pangeros have their own method of dealing with the squid beasts, but the end result was always the same. Pieces of squid corpses floating
down to the waiting hooks of the cannibal brethren.
Let's face it, anyone who has gone squid fishing with the fleet in Baja, knows how it is.
I say nothing. I'm just a paying bystander waiting for his Pangero to get the bait.
How he does it is his business.
I remember the first time I did a charter in southern Baja. I noticed that the Pangero had a machete in the boat.
I asked him what it was for. He said it was for the Needlefish.
I had no idea what he was talking about until I caught one, and the Pangero sliced the fishes head of with one swoop.
It was like watching the Samurai Delicatessen (John Belushi) on Saturday Night Live!.
Gutta' love Baja. . . .By the way, all of the Roosters were released, and we all used circle hooks as well.
Roosters rule. . .
Moog
The fact of the matter, is
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Skipjack Joe
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It's about fishing ethics, Mr Moogie.
You body gaffed it, sliced it's face in half, and then released it.
That's like cutting a swordfish's bill off and releasing him.
Or cutting the fins off soupfin sharks and releasing the sharks to swim on their own.
I don't know what your intentions were with that squid but once you picked up that rod you had certain obligations.
It's not a free for all out there. Each fishermen has certain boundaries, certain lines he will not cross. You crossed that line, mister.
Your statement that we all use hooks and knives out there to do what we will shows me once again your lack of ethics. A true sportsman appreciates the
seriousness of what he's doing and respects his quarry. Otherwise it's all savagery and blood lust and very little else.
Holding up large fish doesn't make you a hero in my book.
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
I don't get why you'd cut off the body off the squid and just take the tenacles?? The body is excellent bait as well as excellent to eat when prepared
properly.
There is a large domestic market for them and that would have fed a family or 3.
How did you catch those roosters? live bait or poppers? That location is directly in front of the estero just south of the marina, judging by the
video and the background.
One can stay at the Presidente and fish those waters off the beach, it is only about a 10 minute walk north. |
I asked my Pangero why he did what he did.
He said that he doesn't bring the beasts into the boat. He won't take the risk of them squirting ink in the boat.
He also said that the tentacles make the best bait for Dorado, and that's what we were going for. . .We did great too.
They all have their own methods to their madness.
You have a good eye for location. The smaller Roosters were caught off the beach directly outside of the La Playita Marina just a short hop from the
El Presidente.
They jumped all over our topwater plugs in the morning. Chrome finished Roberts Rangers did the trick.
The Pargo and large Rooster footage is from about 10 miles north of San Jose. We used live mullet for bait. We trolled them and pitched them.
Moog
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moogie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
It's about fishing ethics, Mr Moogie.
You body gaffed it, sliced it's face in half, and then released it.
That's like cutting a swordfish's bill off and releasing him.
Or cutting the fins off soupfin sharks and releasing the sharks to swim on their own.
I don't know what your intentions were with that squid but once you picked up that rod you had certain obligations.
It's not a free for all out there. Each fishermen has certain boundaries, certain lines he will not cross. You crossed that line, mister.
Your statement that we all use hooks and knives out there to do what we will shows me once again your lack of ethics. A true sportsman appreciates the
seriousness of what he's doing and respects his quarry. Otherwise it's all savagery and blood lust and very little else.
Holding up large fish doesn't make you a hero in my book. |
Joe,
Are you looking at the same video as everyone else?
I didn't body gaff or slice the squids face off. . .The Pangero did.
I just shot the video, and used the beast parts for bait.
There were no ethics to be considered in that situation.
There was no way that I would try to tell the Pangero his business, or step beyond my bounds and make comments on his life long way of doing things.
Would you?
I was always taught to "never bite the hand that feeds you".
I'm not the kind of guy that would take part in cutting the fins off sharks, and I surely wouldn't cut the bill off a Swordfish for a trophy and then
throw the fish back, nor would I stand for it on any vessel I was on.
Yes Joe, I do draw the line, and that line ends with bait. The squid beasts are nothing more to me than bait.
Everything above that line gets the respect it deserves.
I hired an outfitter to take me out fishin' in a place where ethics, language, customs and the way of life is different than what I'm accustomed to.
I loved every minute of it.
Moog
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