I hope this group makes a YouTube video for Baja Norte too. Smart to do both Spanish and English versions. YouTube is the vehicle for increasing
awareness of these land title and beach problems and for creating social change in Mexico.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
My wife and I spent a week in Cabo at a resort. We could have gone to Paris for a week for about the same amount of money. The disparity of the
resorts and how the locals lived really bothered me. Never again. It's amazing to me how the Mexican's get F'ed over by the powers that be. That
was a sad video to watch.
I have had a big beef with this film since I first saw it. And I like Valentina I was also interviewed by her when she was making this film.
I announced the showing here that was in Loreto back in December or January I think. So I was able to see it for the first time in Spanish along with
a full house, local Loretano audience, one of my kids and many UABCS students. I never spoke out then out of respect for Valentina but its been on my
mente.
The movie although well done is totally depressing and defeatist. It offers no solutions other than "we're all f-ed" and "feel sorry for us"....and
by the way donate to that NGO that will help the situation of these poor people. Depressing the hell out of the very people who the issue impacts
most greatly is no way to motivate them to fight back, and this is the issue that I believe is most important.
We the people are being given a false sense that these doo gooder NGO's will be our salvation when in fact the opposite is true. Look who funded the
film and who is promoting it you can see those "logotipos" and it may explain this alarming trend of the neutralization real momentum generating,
grass roots people's movements. The ONLY movement that is having any affect albeit small, are the protests that have been taking place over La
Palmilla. This was shown too briefly on this film. And its only happening because there's so little public playa left in Los Cabos. Its out of
desperation now, all or nothing. Its not too late in my neck of the woods though or in many other places. So my communications to my friends,
neighbors, compañeros is that only WE can get the job done ourselves. WE can be strong and our undiluted passion for our future will propel us
forward against them, those that take land unconstitutionally.
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
and a swinging hot spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put them in a tree museum
And they charged all the people
A dollar and a half just to see 'em
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone
They paved paradise
And they put up a parking lot
..................... Joni Mitchell, Big Yellow Taxi
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
The beef I had with the film, and I am not a golfer. Is the water usage issues to support the Golf courses. The film makers failed to mention that the
water for the greens comes from desal plants that the golf courses paid for to build, operate and maintain.
Originally posted by choyero
The beef I had with the film, and I am not a golfer. Is the water usage issues to support the Golf courses. The film makers failed to mention that the
water for the greens comes from desal plants that the golf courses paid for to build, operate and maintain.
Interestingly enough Valentina was the one who told me there were something like 47 approved permits to build golf courses in BCS. She was outraged.
So was I. I wonder where that outrage went from the film....do not trust those who give grants to help your project, they tie your hands and they
make you work towards imperialistic agendas.
Originally posted by bent-rim
My wife and I spent a week in Cabo at a resort. We could have gone to Paris for a week for about the same amount of money. The disparity of the
resorts and how the locals lived really bothered me. Never again. It's amazing to me how the Mexican's get F'ed over by the powers that be. That
was a sad video to watch.
Sad that your Baja experience is Cabo. Baja is 1,050 miles long. Skip TJ and skip Cabo (for the obvious reasons delineated) and there's a vast
glorious expanse to explore and enjoy. Hope you find the opportunity.
We've been down there numerous time. This time we concluded we've probably hit Cabo for the very last time. Like TJ, it's better skipped. But that
still leaves us 1,000 glorious miles.
Here's hoping the people of Baja find a way to prevail over their land. Surely can't be trusted to us Gringos!
Interestingly enough Valentina was the one who told me there were something like 47 approved permits to build golf courses in BCS. She was outraged.
So was I. I wonder where that outrage went from the film....do not trust those who give grants to help your project, they tie your hands and they
make you work towards imperialistic agendas.
What imperialistic agendas are you talking about?
The makers of this film have imperialistic agendas?
Their sin was that they made the situation seem hopeless?
Interestingly enough Valentina was the one who told me there were something like 47 approved permits to build golf courses in BCS. She was outraged.
So was I. I wonder where that outrage went from the film....do not trust those who give grants to help your project, they tie your hands and they
make you work towards imperialistic agendas.
What imperialistic agendas are you talking about?
The makers of this film have imperialistic agendas?
Their sin was that they made the situation seem hopeless?
If you felt that a situation was hopeless would you continue to fight? or give up? Yes, it is a sin to make people feel hopeless so they give up the
fight and to neutralize anger that can be channeled into truly helping. The funders have imperialistic agendas not the film makers but accepting
these funds ties one's hands. Even if the editing was done creatively and freely, that thought of securing funding from large foundations in the
future still weighs heavily. I understand this is a subject that is not discussed and the reason is money, but there are some starting to open it up.
I hate this situation more than most but we have to break the cycle and be open and self motivated if we are ever to move forward, peace.
edit to add:
"NGOs: In the Service of Imperialism by James Petras,, Dept. of Sociology, Binghamton University, NY" scroll down below the photos, story will be on
the under http://www.neue-einheit.com/frame/engindex1.htm
written 12 years ago with incredible applicable foresight
Interestingly enough Valentina was the one who told me there were something like 47 approved permits to build golf courses in BCS. She was outraged.
So was I. I wonder where that outrage went from the film....do not trust those who give grants to help your project, they tie your hands and they
make you work towards imperialistic agendas.
What imperialistic agendas are you talking about?
The makers of this film have imperialistic agendas?
Their sin was that they made the situation seem hopeless?
If you felt that a situation was hopeless would you continue to fight? or give up? Yes, it is a sin to make people feel hopeless so they give up the
fight and to neutralize anger that can be channeled into truly helping. The funders have imperialistic agendas not the film makers but accepting
these funds ties one's hands. Even if the editing was done creatively and freely, that thought of securing funding from large foundations in the
future still weighs heavily. I understand this is a subject that is not discussed and the reason is money, but there are some starting to open it up.
I hate this situation more than most but we have to break the cycle and be open and self motivated if we are ever to move forward, peace.
edit to add:
"NGOs: In the Service of Imperialism by James Petras,, Dept. of Sociology, Binghamton University, NY" scroll down below the photos, story will be on
the under http://www.neue-einheit.com/frame/engindex1.htm
written 12 years ago with incredible applicable foresight
[Edited on 4-27-2011 by flyfishinPam]
typical rantings of a right wing nut living out of the mainstream long enough that your brain has atrophied and you now see conspiracies behind every
rock.
you sound like ted kaczynski or david koresh.
do you and gnukid buy your drugs from same source??
Goat you need to re-read what she said and try and understand it. This isn't a right wing or left wing problem it's a problem where people in power
are taking over or they are selling out to the ones that are taking over. She wants the people affected to not feel it's hopeless but to fight it. The
film where intended or not made it appear as a hopeless cause for the little guy or gal. Unfortunately those with money can often do as they please,
you should know that.
Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his moccasins.
I speak of these things with first-hand knowledge and the dirt of experience under my fingernails. I live these struggles and I support my family,
friends, neighbors and fellow citizens through this and I won't stop. peace.
Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his moccasins.
I speak of these things with first-hand knowledge and the dirt of experience under my fingernails. I live these struggles and I support my family,
friends, neighbors and fellow citizens through this and I won't stop. peace.
name the imperialist donors that funded the subject movie.
me thinks you are an arm waving lunatic, but if you can name the funders, i will reconsider your diagnosis
Originally posted by TW
Goat you need to re-read what she said and try and understand it. This isn't a right wing or left wing problem it's a problem where people in power
are taking over or they are selling out to the ones that are taking over. She wants the people affected to not feel it's hopeless but to fight it. The
film where intended or not made it appear as a hopeless cause for the little guy or gal. Unfortunately those with money can often do as they please,
you should know that.
The people only feel helpless because they don't know what the next step should be to get the solution they seek. No one does. Once PROFEPA,
SEMARNAT, ZOFEMAT plus the PGJE and PGR all know about it and still do nothing- what's next? really. Only thing I can think of is finding
individuals in those above-mentioned organizations who are like minded and willing to act on behalf of the people and the law.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
If you were to take the time and see the amount of competition there is for these grants and how constrictive they are you might understand where I am
coming from, but you already have your opinion of me and what I am all about, without ever having met me or talked to me person to person.
And woosh, you may find like minded individuals who will truly understand your cause, like the beach building, but unfortunately they will have their
hands tied. I contacted some NGO's in your area and told them of the situation of that building on the federal zone, pointed them to your video and
nada. They can't do much, their boards won't let them move in a meaningful direction unfortunately. They will raise your hopes and always put you on
hold, unfortunately you must continue your fight. The only way I can see is people getting together and fighting those causes that are important to
them, communicating and networking in a true grass roots, unencumbered way and gaining momentum that gets the attention of the politicos who can drive
those agencies you list. The government has a lot worse on its hands to think about but we all have to defend what is ours and we have to maintain
the pressure if we are to make any progress. My "cause" is fisheries and jobs, yours is keeping that federal zone clear so your town can have a
public beach. Don't give up! Good luck to ya.
"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen.
The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back
if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Theodore Roosevelt
"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes
"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others
cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn
"The best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." - Cunningham's Law
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