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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 07:22 AM
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If you are traveling to or from Baja through California, the below list of California State park closures may affect your camping or overnight stays. Parks will begin closing in September of 2011, with all 70 closings completed by July 2012.

Among the parks scheduled to close are the Governor’s and Leland Stanford mansions in Sacramento, the Antelope Valley Indian Museum, and the Del Norte Coast Redwoods State Park. The closings span the state, from the Morro Strand and Moss Landing state beaches to the Salton Sea State Recreation Area and Palomar Mountain State Park. They include popular recreation spots near cities, such as China Camp State Park north of San Francisco, and isolated nature spots including Plumas-Eureka and South Yuba River state parks.

List of California state parks to be closed:

Anderson Marsh State Historic Park
Annadel State Park
Antelope Valley Indian Museum
Austin Creek State Recreation Area
Bale Grist Mill State Historic Park
Benbow Lake State Recreation Area
Benicia Capitol State Historic Park
Benicia State Recreation Area
Bidwell Mansion State Historic Park
Bothe-Napa Valley State Park
Brannan Island State Recreation Area
California Mining & Mineral Museum
Candlestick Point State Recreation Area
Castle Crags State Park
Castle Rock State Park
China Camp State Park
Colusa-Sacramento River State Recreation Area
Del Norte Coast Redwoods State Park
Fort Humboldt State Historic Park
Fort Tejon State Historic Park
Garrapata State Park
George J. Hatfield State Recreation Area
Governor’s Mansion State Historic Park
Gray Whale Cove State Beach
Greenwood State Beach
Grizzly Creek Redwoods State Park
Hendy Woods State Park
Henry W. Coe State Park
Jack London State Historic Park
Jug Handle State Natural Reserve
Leland Stanford Mansion State Historic Park
Limekiln State Park
Los Encinos State Historic Park
Malakoff Diggins State Historic Park
Manchester State Park
McConnell State Recreation Area
McGrath State Beach
Mono Lake Tufa State Natural Reserve
Morro Strand State Beach
Moss Landing State Beach
Olompali State Historic Park
Palomar Mountain State Park
Petaluma Adobe State Historic Park
Picacho State Recreation Area
Pio Pico State Historic Park
Plumas-Eureka State Park
Point Cabrillo Light Station
Portola Redwoods State Park
Providence Mountains State Recreation Area
Railtown 1897 State Historic Park
Russian Gulch State Park
Saddleback Butte State Park
Salton Sea State Recreation Area
Samuel P. Taylor State Park
San Pasqual Battlefield State Historic Park
Santa Cruz Mission State Historic Park
Santa Susana Pass State Historic Park
Shasta State Historic Park
South Yuba River State Park
Standish-Hickey State Recreation Area
Sugarloaf Ridge State Park
Tomales Bay State Park
Tule Elk State Natural Reserve
Turlock Lake State Recreation Area
Twin Lakes State Beach
Weaverville Joss House State Historic Park
Westport-Union Landing State Beach
William B. Ide Adobe State Historic Park
Woodson Bridge State Recreation Area
Zmudowski State Beach




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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 07:23 AM


why are these parks closing?



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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 07:34 AM


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"We regret closing any park,” California State Parks Director Ruth Coleman said in a prepared statement, “but with the proposed budget reductions over the next two years, we can no longer afford to operate all parks within the system.”

The cuts are the result of a bill California Governor Brown signed into law in March that trims $11 million from the parks budget in the fiscal year that begins July 1 and $22 million the next fiscal year. That trims the system’s 2012-2013 budget from the state general fund to $99 million.

“This is a 40 percent reduction to the general fund parks budget since 2007-2008,” said John Laird, California Secretary for Natural Resources.




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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 07:58 AM


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The parks close, the majority of people lose what they have been paying for... because the special interest groups insist on keeping their freebies, even though the rest of us are making less (so tax revenues are way down).




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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 08:22 AM


It just tells my that someone is not doing their job, for what you have to pay to stay in a state park they should be self sustaining.:barf::barf::barf:



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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 09:17 AM


I am not sure that I agree with some of your statements, but I do agree that alot of these parks and other subsidized attractions that we have become accustomed to enjoying, will for the foreseeable future be a thing of the past, I have always thought that most if not all should be self supporting
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 11:35 AM


National Parks will all remain open? Sounds like I'll need bolt cutters to acces my fav county parks near Tioga, off 395. Too bad for us retired/retiring Baby Boomers! What happened to those Enron Executives, anyway?? :o Tio
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 12:01 PM


I know here in Cardiff and Carlsbad the beach campgrounds close about half the sites down for a good part of the winter to "do maintenance". These parks are very popular and seems like such a waste of revenue to shut half the campground down for an extended period to trim bushes.
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 12:12 PM


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The parks close, the majority of people lose what they have been paying for... because the special interest groups insist on keeping their freebies,


you mean special interests like retired people?
this board is full of retired people, so the average reader probably uses relatively much more govt services than they pay via taxes!
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 12:38 PM


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Just another scam by government........they want to close parks "for lack of funds"........people will scream.......then agree to a bond initiative or increased taxes to keep the parks open..........




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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 01:17 PM


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This I agree !!!


Just another scam by government........they want to close parks "for lack of funds"........people will scream.......then agree to a bond initiative or increased taxes to keep the parks open..........


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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 04:03 PM


Sorry. But, when people want services, be they state parks, fire departments or police, someone has pay for it.

Jerry Brown, perhaps much to his current chagrin, campaigned on a platform of having the voters approve tax issues.

But, the fact is, the lion's share of revenues that will sunset, are just that, already in-place measures. So, they are not tax increases. They are continuation of the current status quo.

It kinda reminds me of what happened to Gray Davis. Not persoanlly a big fan of his, but, in retrospect, given that the major issue that ot him recalled was the DMV tax that was set to expire. (it was a "temporary" measure) Statisics bear out that an immense amount of the California budget deficit comes from the sunsetting of the DMV fees. Not unlike the fact that the Bush tax cuts represent the lion's share of the US deficit problem.

It would appear to me that way too many of the Republicans, in particular, are way too beholden to the corporate elite, such as the Koch Brothers, who are hellbent to destroy the American middle class.

You want to go camping at a California state park? Then just don't allow the current tax rates to sunset. Seems simple to me.

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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 04:10 PM


What total crap. They'll close the parks for reasons of fiscal poverty, but spend much more enforceing the closure.
Typical government nonesense.
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 04:16 PM


Doesn't have to happen if only the current tax rates continue!!
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 05:14 PM


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Doesn't have to happen if only the current tax rates continue!!



It isn't taxing. It's spending and you know it.
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 05:21 PM


Sheesh! People expect and want services. How to get them if no one pays for them????
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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 05:35 PM


You really don't believe that there is enough excess fat in government that could be cut from needless / redundant services to cover the costs of keeping the parks open???



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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 05:40 PM


You think your not paying enough when they charge as much as private RV parks. They have to be subsidized ?:fire::fire:



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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 05:40 PM


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Doesn't have to happen if only the current tax rates continue!!



It isn't taxing. It's spending and you know it.


Ditto's...




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[*] posted on 5-14-2011 at 05:46 PM


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You really don't believe that there is enough excess fat in government that could be cut from needless / redundant services to cover the costs of keeping the parks open???


Ditto's....




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